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I think that it would be a custom proposition. With a lot of re-engineering.
What has me thinking is the sights, gas cylinder, GC lock, all that would have to be custom made to the larger diameter barrel, and the op-rod offset would be lower, more than likely causing contact issues with the lower band, necessitating a custom one
The center-to-center distance would increase quite a bit with that much increase in the barrel O.D..
Then, what kind of issues would you have with the change in relationship of the op-rod to the receiver tracks. You'd more than likely have to re-think the op-rod bends.
It could be done, but not cheaply. A BAR (Browning sporting rifle) would be much easier. Start with a .300 or .338 mag....
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Yeah, simple, right? 
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I think that it would be a custom proposition. With a lot of re-engineering.
What has me thinking is the sights, gas cylinder, GC lock, all that would have to be custom made to the larger diameter barrel, and the op-rod offset would be lower, more than likely causing contact issues with the lower band, necessitating a custom one
The center-to-center distance would increase quite a bit with that much increase in the barrel O.D..
Then, what kind of issues would you have with the change in relationship of the op-rod to the receiver tracks. You'd more than likely have to re-think the op-rod bends.
It could be done, but not cheaply. A BAR (Browning sporting rifle) would be much easier. Start with a .300 or .338 mag.... Man, ....you could give Gary Kuhnhausen a run for his money, speaking "gas-gun tech".  Kudos. GTC
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Thanks.
I've never modified a gas-gun. Built plenty of bolts.
I am trained as an Engineer, though. Sometimes, I wished I could just look at something, and take it for what it is....
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 Yup,....can relate to that, myself. GTC
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i use to have the link to the company that makes them, they also offer it in 338.if i remember right they run about 5 grand.
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I'd like to find that link and check 'em out.
I'll have to admit, though, that I like the Garand just as it is or maybe in .35 Whelen.
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Google McCann Industries in Spanaway Washington. They made these a few years ago, not sure of they still do.
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Was that the outfit that was fitting M60 gas systems to M1s and M1As ?
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Google McCann Industries in Spanaway Washington. They made these a few years ago, not sure of they still do. I checked their web site and it doesn't look like they do. I'm surprised that somebody has come up with something like this from scratch. I would imagine any patents on the M-1 have expired by now. I can see a M-1 type action with a detachable 8-round magazine as a dangerous game rifle.
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Springfield Armory (TM) made some M1s, but not completely from scratch. It is a very expensive design to produce.
ETA: They used a lot of original production parts.
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Springfield Armory (TM) made some M1s, but not completely from scratch. It is a very expensive design to produce. I'm not an engineer so I don't know but is the M-14 that much different from the M-1? I used both in the service extensively and broke them down and I didn't notice any real difference but as I said I'm no engineer.
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The M14's use of detachable magazines, rather then the mechanisms used with the enbloc clip of the M1 simplifies it by a measurable amount.
And there's no more Garand thumb...
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Springfield Armory (TM) made some M1s, but not completely from scratch. It is a very expensive design to produce. springfield as apposed to the original springfield armory was making m1garands for a while, but they weren't the same as the original. Those i believe were cast recievers used on the newer production
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Springfield Armory (TM) made some M1s, but not completely from scratch. It is a very expensive design to produce. I'm not an engineer so I don't know but is the M-14 that much different from the M-1? I used both in the service extensively and broke them down and I didn't notice any real difference but as I said I'm no engineer. i have heard the m14 often refered to as the son of the garand, which is correct, but it is different. It uses a magazine the garand a clip. Gas system is different too. the production garand was 30.06, the m14 7.62x51
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As a dedicated NATO military arm, the Beretta variant was the hands down winner.
7.62 X 51,......
No fragile 'Roller',semi auto only, 20 round detachable mag, and short enough to be a "Scout", before that became chic( that said with all due respect for the departed Col. Cooper).
I've shot several, and they're pretty squared away units.
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I can see a M-1 type action with a detachable 8-round magazine as a dangerous game rifle. The Italian BM-59 is in 7.62 and features a 20 round detachable mag. There are various conversions around that fed the Garand with a BAR mag(Military rifle). One of these used as a basis and with sound engineering would be just that, though I can't think of too many bear that would shrug off 8 well-placed 220 grainers. .35 Whelen would be even more formidable.
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Thanks for all the input.
Well breaking both the M-14 and the M-1 down for cleaning etc. of course I would never notice any engineering difficulties as I'm not an engineer but I can see where the enbloc mechanism of the M-1 would require more engineering than a straight magazine. Also the gas port on the M-14 is moved half way down the barrel whereas the gas port on the M-1 is only a few inches from the muzzle. I would imagine that would change how the operating rod functions.
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