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79gr of Retumbo with the 140gr Berger in this 8 twist is a little hot. Too much psi. Back to the drawing board. BTW it ran 3315fp on the Magnetospeed. Shot better, but I only ran 3 rounds at 300.


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Originally Posted by dogcatcher223


Curious why you didn't throat the CM shorter? Both cartridges appear to be about the same OAL, so that pretty much cancels out the purpose of the CM. If you wanted it to be 243 length with identical bullets, why not just run a 243?

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What? That is exactly the purpose of the CM..Think about it, long bullets seated out of the powder column and still under 2.8"

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In a pinch for time so about 4am (before work) I pulled bullets, ensured powder was all out, charged with 78gr's and 78.5gr's (dropped from 79 and 79.5), seated new bullets.
This evening I ran 3 at 78gr with the Magnetospeed and it turned an avg of 3,278fps.

I pulled the Magnetospeed and dialed to 500yrds. Bipod, rear bag, this is the 4 shot 500yrd group I shot. Upper right was last shot, I knew I rushed it. Conditions were pretty darn fair, no windage dialed and running 7.5 MOA.

Still a little on the warm side, but I know I could have pulled this group together with more rounds and bag set up.

Next up H1000. Hoping my delivery of BRASS, bullets and powder shows up soon. Should be rather positive.

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That's pretty good for loa development. Thank you for the pictures.


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Retumbo and H1000 are out.

Next up is US869. Got a feeling this one is going to put me right were I want to be. Hope to have it worked over with results by this weekend.

The H1000 ran out around 3200fps anything around 3230fps and it was too hot.


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Please try RL 33. It will blow away anything you've run so far.

I guarantee it.


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I went to 78 grains of RL 33 with the 140 Berger in my .264 Win Mag for over 3300 fps with no pressure signs


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Originally Posted by rcamuglia
I went to 78 grains of RL 33 with the 140 Berger in my .264 Win Mag for over 3300 fps with no pressure signs

Have you tried the 160gr matrix VLD or Woodleigh 160gr PPSN? What book are you finding loads for the RL33 in? 71 gr of the old H570 pushes the 160gr PPSN to 3095fps.

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Haven't tried any bullets heavier than the 140's. There's no published data for RL 33. Its burn rate is slower than Retumbo.

When you own a 264 Win Mag, you just signed up to be your own Ballistician if you want to obtain the performance of which it's capable.

Same goes with the 26 Nosler I would guess!


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Have you used the RL33 on the 130 gr VLD? In my 264WM 67gr of H4831 pushes it 3249fps. Which is max load in the old Hodgdon #20 manual.

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I haven't tried rl33 with any bullet other than a 140. I bet with the 130 you'll get over 3400


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3/23/14
140 Berger Hybrid F215M, 7RUM Case 3.8" Ogive
88gr US869 3 shot avg 3232fps avg
88.5gr US869 3 shot avg ***Retest 3233fps avg
89gr US869 3 shot avg 3264fps avg


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Did you hit pressure?


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Not like the other powders. Gonna wait on brass now that I have a good base for all and retest the US869 and likely a couple others.


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4 hrs ago on facebook.....

"First production samples of 26 Nosler brass coming off the line as we speak! One step closer to getting these bad boys on shelves! FLAT OUT. LIGHTS OUT."


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https://www.facebook.com/NoslerInc/...07/10152293162117808/?type=1&theater

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Nosler data is out for the 26 Nosler and 129 ABLR.

Max velotity at 3,427 was with 92 gr. US869, the accuracy load for that powder.

Most accurate load tested was 80 gr. Magnum at 3,305. Magnum was the most accurate powder tested.

RL-33 maxed at 3,363 with 82 gr., the accuracy load for that powder.

Retumbo maxed at 3,364 with 77.5 gr. but the most accurate Retumbo load was 73.5 at 3,264.

Check it out on line.

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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Nosler data is out for the 26 Nosler and 129 ABLR.

Max velotity at 3,427 was with 92 gr. US869, the accuracy load for that powder.

Most accurate load tested was 80 gr. Magnum at 3,305. Magnum was the most accurate powder tested.

RL-33 maxed at 3,363 with 82 gr., the accuracy load for that powder.

Retumbo maxed at 3,364 with 77.5 gr. but the most accurate Retumbo load was 73.5 at 3,264.

Check it out on line.

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I know I might be off base some, but it really seems like the 26 Nosler will need some 140's and heavier to show big gains over the 264. I don't have much drama at all attaining 3300+ with 130 AB's in my 26" barreled 264 with normal loads of RL25 or Retumbo.

If Nosler drops a 140+ bullet in the ABLR then I think they'd really have something. Seems like that is where the case space could really be used.


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Seems their big play right now is MV.

I agree with you and would like to see data with 140 VLD's, etc.

If I read JB's post correctly. A full mag length box may be needed to long seat those bullets. I guess a RUM action may be the preferred donor.

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Originally Posted by beretzs
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Nosler data is out for the 26 Nosler and 129 ABLR.

Max velotity at 3,427 was with 92 gr. US869, the accuracy load for that powder.

Most accurate load tested was 80 gr. Magnum at 3,305. Magnum was the most accurate powder tested.

RL-33 maxed at 3,363 with 82 gr., the accuracy load for that powder.

Retumbo maxed at 3,364 with 77.5 gr. but the most accurate Retumbo load was 73.5 at 3,264.

Check it out on line.

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I know I might be off base some, but it really seems like the 26 Nosler will need some 140's and heavier to show big gains over the 264. I don't have much drama at all attaining 3300+ with 130 AB's in my 26" barreled 264 with normal loads of RL25 or Retumbo.

If Nosler drops a 140+ bullet in the ABLR then I think they'd really have something. Seems like that is where the case space could really be used.

And if they come out with a 160 like the Matrix.

From what I can figure, the 26 Nosler should push a 160 over 3,000 fps with ease. How much over 3K, I don't have a clue. With the new powders, who knows. It could get interesting.

Seems a full mag length action like a RUM may be the ideal donor for long bullets like the 160 Matrix.

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