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Traditional 404 Jeffery build. #8460633 01/12/14
Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 49 Wasilla, Alaska M maksmith OP Campfire Greenhorn
OP maksmith Campfire Greenhorn M Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 49 Wasilla, Alaska	If I were to build a traditional 404 Jeffery what action should I use? K98 Mauser, P14, anything else? What are your thoughts? I would like to build a rifle similar to what the African Game departments used in the early days.

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Re: Traditional 404 Jeffery build. maksmith #8460697 01/12/14
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,917 AK peninsula 458Win Campfire Tracker
458Win Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,917 AK peninsula	Do you want one like the first early ones that were built on standard M-98 actions like this one ? or one of the later ones that were built on magnum actions ? Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master Guide, Alaska Hunter Ed Instructor FAA Master pilot www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com Anyone who claims the 30-06 is not effective has either not used one, or else is unwittingly commenting on their marksmanship.

Re: Traditional 404 Jeffery build. 458Win #8460806 01/12/14
Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 49 Wasilla, Alaska M maksmith OP Campfire Greenhorn
OP maksmith Campfire Greenhorn M Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 49 Wasilla, Alaska	Were some of the 404's employed to service Magnum actions? I would like to stay as traditional as I can.

Re: Traditional 404 Jeffery build. maksmith #8460810 01/12/14
Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 49 Wasilla, Alaska M maksmith OP Campfire Greenhorn
OP maksmith Campfire Greenhorn M Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 49 Wasilla, Alaska	By the way 458. That is one good looking rifle you got there!!!

Re: Traditional 404 Jeffery build. maksmith #8460950 01/12/14
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,917 AK peninsula 458Win Campfire Tracker
458Win Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,917 AK peninsula	I left it in camp this year but will have to bring it in and show it to you. It is a pretty neat old rifle that was completed in Jan of 1907 and purchased for an Alaskan brown bear hunt. Here it is with one of the new 416 Ruger African rifles --- they are mighty close in weight, balance, handling and performance And compared with the Rigby 416's which were built on the largest Magnum Mauser actions they are much lighter and slimmer On other sites I have posted more closeup photos of the action and stock ins letting Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master Guide, Alaska Hunter Ed Instructor FAA Master pilot www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com Anyone who claims the 30-06 is not effective has either not used one, or else is unwittingly commenting on their marksmanship.

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Re: Traditional 404 Jeffery build. 458Win #8460996 01/12/14
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 46,238 Oklahoma G gunner500 Campfire 'Bwana
gunner500 Campfire 'Bwana G Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 46,238 Oklahoma	Originally Posted by 458Win Do you want one like the first early ones that were built on standard M-98 actions like this one ? or one of the later ones that were built on magnum actions ? Class, style and functionality all in one. Gunner Trump Won!

Re: Traditional 404 Jeffery build. gunner500 #8461049 01/12/14
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,917 AK peninsula 458Win Campfire Tracker
458Win Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,917 AK peninsula	It works as good now as it ever did too Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master Guide, Alaska Hunter Ed Instructor FAA Master pilot www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com Anyone who claims the 30-06 is not effective has either not used one, or else is unwittingly commenting on their marksmanship.

Re: Traditional 404 Jeffery build. 458Win #8461061 01/12/14
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 46,238 Oklahoma G gunner500 Campfire 'Bwana
gunner500 Campfire 'Bwana G Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 46,238 Oklahoma	Hope to see that one in person someday. Gunner Trump Won!

Re: Traditional 404 Jeffery build. gunner500 #8462592 01/12/14
Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 49 Wasilla, Alaska M maksmith OP Campfire Greenhorn
OP maksmith Campfire Greenhorn M Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 49 Wasilla, Alaska	Phil, I would love to see it. It will give me inspiration for my build for sure.

Re: Traditional 404 Jeffery build. 458Win #8462781 01/12/14
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,578 Lake Iliamna Alaska waterrat Campfire Regular
waterrat Campfire Regular Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,578 Lake Iliamna Alaska	Originally Posted by 458Win It works as good now as it ever did too That's a beauty of a rifle Phil!! Great picture,,, I tend to use more than enough gun

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Re: Traditional 404 Jeffery build. waterrat #8462816 01/12/14
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 3,575 AZ T Talus_in_Arizona Campfire Tracker
Talus_in_Arizona Campfire Tracker T Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 3,575 AZ	That fifle is a beauty! I do not entertain hypotheticals. The world itself is vexing enough. -- Col. Stonehill

Re: Traditional 404 Jeffery build. waterrat #8463757 01/13/14
Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,080 Pretoria, South Africa PieterKriel Campfire Regular
PieterKriel Campfire Regular Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,080 Pretoria, South Africa	Originally Posted by waterrat Originally Posted by 458Win It works as good now as it ever did too That's a beauty of a rifle Phil!! Great picture,,, So who was walking bear foot in the woods? http://www.huntinginafricasafaris.com [email protected]

Re: Traditional 404 Jeffery build. PieterKriel #8466091 01/13/14
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Drop New Member D Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 9	Is it smart to build a 404 Jeffery on a standard length Mauser 98 action? I hear mixed reviews. Lots of cartridges have been shoehorned into standard length 98's and just because it's been done doesn't mean it's the brightest. Any opinions? Thanks.

Re: Traditional 404 Jeffery build. Drop #8466892 01/13/14
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 28,605 NE Montana rattler Campfire Ranger
rattler Campfire Ranger Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 28,605 NE Montana	im thinking of building one on my M1917......especially since learning Jeffery did build some on the P14/M1917 type actions.... A serious student of the "Armchair Safari" always looking for Africa/Asia hunting books

Re: Traditional 404 Jeffery build. rattler #8470384 01/14/14
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 19,812 T toltecgriz Campfire Ranger
toltecgriz Campfire Ranger T Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 19,812	That rifle just screams "take me hunting." Very nice. "Be sure you're right. Then go ahead." Fess Parker as Davy Crockett

Re: Traditional 404 Jeffery build. Drop #8470663 01/14/14
Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 2,099 augusta,ga mrfudd Campfire Regular
mrfudd Campfire Regular Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 2,099 augusta,ga	Originally Posted by Drop Is it smart to build a 404 Jeffery on a standard length Mauser 98 action? I hear mixed reviews. Lots of cartridges have been shoehorned into standard length 98's and just because it's been done doesn't mean it's the brightest. Any opinions? Thanks. Why not, the originals were built on standard length Mauser actions and they have been going strong for over 100 years. I'm gathering parts for a .404 build. I'm using a Lothar Walther barrel, Weibe 4MJ bottom metal and a Mauser action (my gunsmith is going to select the best candidate from 3 I own: 1909 Argy, 1950s FN commercial and a late 50s Weatherby). Who is John Galt?

Re: Traditional 404 Jeffery build. maksmith #12310363 10/03/17
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 9,611 Central Texas P powdr Campfire Outfitter
powdr Campfire Outfitter P Joined: May 2005 Posts: 9,611 Central Texas	Dang I hate it when those old pictures won't come thru. powdr

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