|
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 2,197
Campfire Regular
|
OP
Campfire Regular
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 2,197 |
I'm considering buying a nice used SW 586 .357 mag. I want to be able to occasionally shoot the heavy 180 and 200 grain hard cast bear loads.
Am I asking for trouble?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 2,600
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 2,600 |
I think that was the purpose of the L frame. I have had my 686 since 1984 w/ no issues. Heavy load once or twice a year, but your interpretation of occasionally may differ.
Whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 18,881
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 18,881 |
I've always understood the "L" frame came about because of the desire to have a bit more weight like the Colt revolvers and a full lug barrel w/o going to the "N" frame. Some of the custom makers were making Colt Python/S&W crosses called "Smolts". If you stay with published data for the cases and bullets you pick, it will hold up fine. E
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 24,659
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 24,659 |
You're not asking for trouble, the 586 is brute strong.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 2,197
Campfire Regular
|
OP
Campfire Regular
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 2,197 |
Thanks for the fast responses. Sounds like it's a solid firearm. I had a friend tell me a long time ago to avoid SW 357's and stick with Ruger. I believe he must have been referring to the smaller frame .357's
After doing some internet research, the gun appears to be the new 586, as the firing pin is not mounted on the hammer.
I don't know if the new model is better or worse than the old model, but the marked price is $450. Seems like a deal after looking at gunbroker.com prices.
I'm going to go take a run at it and fondle it once more and see if it comes with box and original grips,etc.
Last edited by T Bone; 01/30/14.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 115,424
Campfire Sage
|
Campfire Sage
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 115,424 |
If you want some friendly advice. Buy that [bleep] now. As in yesterday.
Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 30,879
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 30,879 |
I'm considering buying a nice used SW 586 .357 mag. I want to be able to occasionally shoot the heavy 180 and 200 grain hard cast bear loads.
Am I asking for trouble? The 586 can take any and all 357 loads without drama.
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 19,409
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 19,409 |
Day before yesterday.
I've shot a bunch of hot loads in mine, 125s, 158s, and 180s. Not one complaint from this guy.
MAGA
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 115,424
Campfire Sage
|
Campfire Sage
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 115,424 |
Not one complaint from this guy. And that's a rare thing. Believe me... Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 23,616
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 23,616 |
I have a no-dash 686 & it has a fair amount of rounds through it at magnum loadings as well as a lot more at +P 38 loads & it's still plenty tight.
If you stay within published data loads & pressures you likely won't have any issues.
IMO, one of the best, if not the very best, guns that S&W has ever made.
As Travis said, at $450, I go get the gun right this very minute.
MM
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,255
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,255 |
+1 to the consensus. I'd grab one at that price.
My 6" 686 likes 140 grain Lasercast flat cone nose bullets and max loads of h110 for 100 yard cans, clay pigeons and steel targets.
Ella
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 13,000
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 13,000 |
I run Oregon Trail 180gr bullets in my 586 and they've proved very accurate at 100 yards. The cylinder length on the 586 will accomodate longer OAL's than other .357.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 2,197
Campfire Regular
|
OP
Campfire Regular
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 2,197 |
I said, "What's your best price?" He said, "$395" I giggled. And bought it. My first Smith. Hopefully I got more than I paid for. Thanks for the prompt answers and advice!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 30,879
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 30,879 |
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 23,616
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 23,616 |
I said, "What's your best price?"
He said, "$395"
I giggled. And bought it.
My first Smith.
Hopefully I got more than I paid for. Thanks for the prompt answers and advice!
You should be arrested for theft.............. MM
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 115,424
Campfire Sage
|
Campfire Sage
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 115,424 |
That's a gem dude. Awesome revolvers.
Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 54,284
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 54,284 |
That's a gem dude. Awesome revolvers.
Travis Yeah, not much more to say than that.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 13,234
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 13,234 |
My first Smith.
Hopefully I got more than I paid for. Oh, you did. You did. Another piece of advice, since this is your first; a man can never have too many S&W revolvers.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 19,409
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 19,409 |
I said, "What's your best price?" He said, "$395" I giggled. And bought it. My first Smith. Hopefully I got more than I paid for. Thanks for the prompt answers and advice! Sweet gun! My favorite revolver that I own or have shot hands down. What - number is yours?
MAGA
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 2,197
Campfire Regular
|
OP
Campfire Regular
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 2,197 |
586-5
Is that the latest model?
Doesn't appear to have been fired much.
Just need to get my hands on some ammo now....
|
|
|
|
141 members (44mc, 7887mm08, 007FJ, 7mm_Loco, 10gaugemag, 13 invisible),
1,462
guests, and
833
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,190,599
Posts18,454,577
Members73,908
|
Most Online11,491 Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|