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How about I show these guys a pic of a short little [bleep] that looks like he's strung out on meth. I can get the one you sent of yourself when I bought that rifle from you. What was that you told me, you never shot targets with it so you don't know how it shoots. You "only shot rocks with it". What a [bleep] loser, just like your short [bleep] butt buddy boxer.



How do rocks taste dumbphuck???

Man, I'm jealous. We got no rocks to shoot down here. We have to improvise. Mostly I find a spot on a palm tree and blast it. Light has to be just about perfect to see the spots.

Laffin', that mean your not posting any?

And your point is?

bsa',

You Do Nothing Whining Kchunt...you've a seriously unfair "advantage,in that Stupidity ain't an act for you. Laffin'!

Keep the Excuses and Whine coming,it's a [bleep] riot!

Bless your heart.










DD,

No trees or rocks here,either.



Mebbe bsa' will continue with her Imagination and Pretend,so a gent can "live" vicariously,with all she "does".

Laffin'!

These are acceptable...

Yes sir, I'd say they were.

FWIW

I�ve owned numerous firearms in various chamberings over the years from 17 ackley hornet through 458 Lott (around 57 different chamberings IIRC). For each of these I�ve developed loads that were shot over a chronograph measuring and contrasting velocity vs. accuracy and the bullet I wanted to use. I usually shoot three shot groups. Some say less than 5 shots is not a group, and that�s fine.
However, after all is said and done, my goal is to know within a half inch, where, if I do my part, the bullet will impact game at any given ranged/known distance, first shot out of a cold barrel.
An example. I�ve an old Winchester push feed/post 64 model 70 in 270 Win. However the person that owned it before me happened to have it bedded, a trigger job done, and a custom Shilen barrel screwed into the receiver. Many years ago I ceased load development when I happened on 60 grains of H4831SC and 130 gr. Nosler Ballistic tips. That has been my go to load in this rifle forever.





The two shots in the picture above were fired approximately one hour apart. To my mind that is definitely acceptable.





So when the hoglet pictured above presented himself at 120 yards, give or take, the task of placing a bullet between his ear and shoulder was no big deal.

Groups are fun, but in my mind they are not the end all and be all. Making meat from a critter, cleanly and efficiently dispatched is.

I had an old insurance mentor who had a saying,
"when you know you know, and you know you know, confidence replaces fear".

Load development and trigger time are hard to beat and definitely build confidence.

Best,

GWB

Musta been something in the water after '64. The 270 groups you see are a '69 PFM70, factory tube, restocked in a rattle canned Winlite (which I hate), LW's (shimmed rear with 2 layers of soda can), M8 6x42. Blurry pics on purpose. Trigger guy was on vacation the day they made this one 'cause it takes two to pull it. But, 2 tears in a bucket.....

Lots'o truth right here ^^^^

Two inches at 100 yards would not scare me. Shots here are very rarely over 100 yards. I usually stop load development if I get 1.5 inch at 100 for 3 shots.

I'd lose my friggin mind. Hell, I'd sell the loader if that were the case.

I'm a handloading hobbyist. Three into an inch and a half is nice at 300 yards.

sheeyut

Must be a kimber afficianado.

Is that better than 3 in 1/4" at 100?

I dunno.

Cantaddferchitt

Is that Minute Of Palm Tree BD?

Minute Of Rock is a bit more.

220 swift, Sako AII scoped it with an older 2.5 x 8 vari x III scope.





43 gr. h-380, mv @ 3,910, 3,920, 3,919 fps.



I guess you could call it 3 and a quarter.

Quien Sabe as the Messicans say.

Best,

GWB

Same here.

Well let's see in working up a load for my most recent acquisition a 30-06 savage I started with a beginning load of AA4350 that I happened to have available and some 150 gr power points . I weighed some loads thrown using my lee scoops and found them pretty consistent and then loaded up 20 rounds and went to the range. Used about 8 rds zeroing the scope and then found that three 3 shot groups averaged just over an inch. The largest was 1.2 " the smallest .9. That left 3 rounds to launch across the crony and they ran around 2760 fps with a spread of 43fps I figure I'm good to go.

Recoil was fairly mild as was muzzle blast and quite frankly I don't shoot enough lately to have the trigger control I once did. The bench at this range were designed by a moron. The seat is fixed and way too high to the shooting platform so if you can imagine trying to shoot off a English racing bike using the handle bars for a rest with you rear about as high as your head there you are.With those conditions I figure 1.2 inches with a load that is easy to throw together is good to go. Maybe I'm just getting to jaded about shooting any more.

A soliloquy in regards to your post, and this is just one man's opinion, and as we all know, opinions are like noses. Everyone has one, and many of them smell.


one hole groups,even at 100 yds., other than those as the result of firing one shot, would seem to be an aberration from a "commercial chamber", even a Savage.

I'd say your judgement is realistic, tempered by experience. I find that I'm not near as anal about miniscule groups as I was 20 years ago.

The enjoyment of firearms and all that goes with that can be an addiction. I try remember that this is for fun, albeit many times with a purpose, such as developing an acceptable load with a new powder/bullet combination for next season's hunt. For hog or deer sized critters, a load as described above launched at the velocity you described would seem to be optimal for making meat without waste at any reasonable distance.

Best,

GWB