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Interesting. 1300 views and several failures. Nonetheless I have had one just fall off. Never beat the handle or dropped it. Owned dozens. That said other brands never break bc they cannot. Sako. Howa. Ruger. Oh and I have owned many Rugers. Accurate. Their new bbls are well mfg. Any bolt can break, even solid ones, I'd think it rare, but anything can break. Of course anything thats not one solid piece, and has a method of attachment is more liable to break. Never stopped me from buying 700s. And I've taken them to places where if it breaks you are done... no backups, no gun stores without hours of flying time etc... Of course when I say no backups, I never hunt by myself, so there is always a backup, I just rarely am the one carrying it in that instance.
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Curious how many have experienced it. Not me, but I will admit to gingerly tapping a 700 bolt open with a rubber mallet jacking with 85 gr NBT's and RL-19 in a 25-06.  Gunner
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I had one break off on a 221 Fireball hand gun that was made in the middle 1970's. I sent it to Remington and they sent it back fixed. kwg
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I had the handles on all my "serious" hunting rifles welded on..Never worried about it till I had one pop off..It would have indeed sucked if I was hunting in another state..had them tig'd on for piece of mind.
Cant like the screw on method, can see Murphy coming into play there.
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Never had one break off....
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Loaned a 700 ss 338 RUM to a friend about 10 years ago for his Alaska grizzly hunt. 1 shot kill on a smallish bear at about 15 yards that his guide thought was about to charge. Went to clean it when he brought it back and the handle came off. Billings Gunsmiths repaired it- said it wasn't the first. I imagine he reefed on it pretty hard after the shot . He declined to borrow it again.
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I own a 700, bought it just last year. It's a good gun, but I won't buy another one. The 90 degree bolt throw and its limitations on mounting a scope low really put me off. I will never use this gun for hunting something that could hunt me back, but having a bolt handle fall off would really piss me off. Designs evolve, so after 40 or 50 years Remington should do better. If it were a medical device a few known failures even out of 6+ million pieces built would equal a recall. Just based on the posted samples, there have been more than "a few" failures.
It's not that hard or expensive to build a better mousetrap in this instance.
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Okay...next question. How many of you guys that say you've seen 700 bolt handles break off think Mdl 70's are better rifles?
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I have and I do. At least a better hunting rifle. For targets, varmints, and gentleman's deer hunting, a Remington is preferable. Give me a Winchester when the stakes go up. YMMV.
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I own a 700, bought it just last year. It's a good gun, but I won't buy another one. The 90 degree bolt throw and its limitations on mounting a scope low really put me off. I will never use this gun for hunting something that could hunt me back, but having a bolt handle fall off would really piss me off. Designs evolve, so after 40 or 50 years Remington should do better. If it were a medical device a few known failures even out of 6+ million pieces built would equal a recall... Deaths caused by medical malpractice in the U.S. approach 200,000 per year. That's probably not the best comparison as the medical field continues to do the same things the same way in a lot of cases.....
Suck bullets simply suck.
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I own a 700, bought it just last year. It's a good gun, but I won't buy another one. The 90 degree bolt throw and its limitations on mounting a scope low really put me off. I will never use this gun for hunting something that could hunt me back, but having a bolt handle fall off would really piss me off. Designs evolve, so after 40 or 50 years Remington should do better. If it were a medical device a few known failures even out of 6+ million pieces built would equal a recall. Just based on the posted samples, there have been more than "a few" failures.
It's not that hard or expensive to build a better mousetrap in this instance. You got your first 700 last year? How old are you?
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Two of the 50 odd members of that club had M600 bolt handles pop off. How many members were there in all, and did any of the non-odd members experience this?  That's funny stuff!!
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Almost as funny as somebody believing that Rem 700's ain't a good thing.
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I've had a .243 700 for nearly 40 years, no problem, until I ef'd up and had a stuck case - hammered the bolt handle with a dead-blow.
And a 725 (predating the 700 in manufacturing) for close to 30 years. No problem.
I have re-silver-soldered-on several other than my own 700 bolt handles, all having been hammered open .... None, to my knowledge have had a problem since.
One should probably not do chit requiring hammering open....
That said, there are good soldering jobs and not so good... production oriented jobs may or may not have a higher percentage of the latter.
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I refuse to use Remingtons, so it hasn't happened to me. I've seen a few in the gunsmiths shop for repair, he tells me he gets a couple a year. A buddy who was a sniper and armorer in the USMC says they used to knock them off regularly, if you gave him a Remington he would sell it and buy another Mauser.
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I have and I do. At least a better hunting rifle. For targets, varmints, and gentleman's deer hunting, a Remington is preferable. Give me a Winchester when the stakes go up. YMMV. Agree.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Okay...next question. How many of you guys that say you've seen 700 bolt handles break off think Mdl 70's are better rifles? I think Ruger 77's are better than either of them and I've owned a few of each.
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I have and I do. At least a better hunting rifle. For targets, varmints, and gentleman's deer hunting, a Remington is preferable. Give me a Winchester when the stakes go up. YMMV. What's that ?
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I refuse to use Remingtons, so it hasn't happened to me. I've seen a few in the gunsmiths shop for repair, he tells me he gets a couple a year. A buddy who was a sniper and armorer in the USMC says they used to knock them off regularly, if you gave him a Remington he would sell it and buy another Mauser. WW1 ? 
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I own a 700, bought it just last year. It's a good gun, but I won't buy another one. The 90 degree bolt throw and its limitations on mounting a scope low really put me off. I will never use this gun for hunting something that could hunt me back, but having a bolt handle fall off would really piss me off. Designs evolve, so after 40 or 50 years Remington should do better. If it were a medical device a few known failures even out of 6+ million pieces built would equal a recall. Just based on the posted samples, there have been more than "a few" failures.
It's not that hard or expensive to build a better mousetrap in this instance. You got your first 700 last year? How old are you? 42. Not everybody drinks the 700 Kool-Aid....
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