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I like Hot Cors, the 150s do very well in both my .308 and my .300 Win Mag. I haven't noticed excessive meat damage on deer at 3200 feet per second. Just a big Boom-flop, pretty much every time.

I use them in my 450M...

bad news

Please don't let them mess with the TNT's. Please don't let them mess with the TNT's. Please don't let them mess with the TNT's.




Hope that works.

Just ordered some more 300 grain "Plinkers" (UniCors) for my .45-70. That is just about the toughest 300 grain bullet I could find.

I use the 300gn UniCor for my 444. Awesome bullet.

The HP-TNTs are some of the best shooting bullets I've ever used. Also really, really deadly on varmints!

I shoot the 200gr Hot Cors in my 338 Federal. Worked well on the moose I shot with it. I was concerned when I read the deep curls were replacing them so I picked up more hot cors. I used to see lots of Speer products up here but not much lately. Mostly Noslers and Hornady so most are shooting those now. Any Speer bullets I have used worked well and I used 52gr HP in 22 cal lots. Gone to Hornady there now too because I can't get them. Same for Sierra up here. Nothing on the shelves. If they want people shooting their products they better put some on the shelves.

I think after ATK took over Speer became more or less a support company for Federal and Lake City. They did have innovative minds there in the development of the Gold Dot bullet and for the most part the bonded Fusion bullet which turned into the Deep Curl when marketed to the public--which by the way was long overdue before being made available commercially to the public. Credit was never given to the engineering staff at Speer for the development of the Fusion bullet that proved so successful for Federal. It too bad that Federal and ATK couldn't have shared a little of the thunder when they marketed their new ammo. Seem like it would have been a win/win for ATK and Speer. I believe that Federal(and ATK) have stymied Speer's potential since being acquired. I think the company could be much more innovative if given the opportunity and resources by ATK and not overshadowed by Federal.

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I found a jewel in the Nosler Accubonds. I now have 2 lifetime's supply in all calibers. I have been through these product cut-offs before.

Like Sierra!
Same cup and core stuff since inception. Nothing premium or different.

At least Sierra does introduce new bullet lines, only to discontinue them and reintroduce a line that was supposed to be replaced.

If you develop a load with a sierra, you can be fairly confident that the bullet will be available in the future.

Yep, and every rifle I've shot a Pro Hunter in has been among, if not the best shooting bullet in that rifle.