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Re: For Those Wanting Jetboil Results Without Buying Jetboil... [Re: ironbender] #8632774 02/28/14
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Iso-butane is an isomer, it has a side chain, therefore is a larger molecule and has more bonds to break when it burns, so yes, in theory it should burn hotter.

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Re: For Those Wanting Jetboil Results Without Buying Jetboil... [Re: Take_a_knee] #8633337 03/01/14
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My reason for posting is that for a solo hunter whom boils only a dinner a day(2 cups) depending on elevation a person can do it for nearly half the weight and less space. If that matter's than I hope I've helped.

My SP Litemax and stoic pot get me 9 dinners(2cups)or more boiled on one 110gm SP canister no problem if i'm alone Elev from 3800ft to 6500ft.

I do it at near half the weight and less cubic inches burned up.

Aside from hot handles I see no advantage in my case. Now if I decide to up my boils to say 4 cups a day I'll be all over it as I have both the Oilcamp stove and pot on Order. As i hope my son will go with me.


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Re: For Those Wanting Jetboil Results Without Buying Jetboil... [Re: Shag] #8634610 03/01/14
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I am a believer.

Weather is crappy this weekend, so I am close to home and decided to test out the new pot.

Two brand new MSR IsoPros, two MSR Micro Rockets and 16 oz of tap water.

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Off and running. All equipment and materials were only outside for a few minutes before the test started.

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We have winner.

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Just starting to boil.

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Lovely conditions for the test.

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Re: For Those Wanting Jetboil Results Without Buying Jetboil... [Re: mtmiller] #8634630 03/01/14
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Awesome test Craig... PR and the Olicamp are a winner to me.

Gonna order one.

Super cold here today too... we were -10F this morning, heavy winds and 79% humidity. Snowing like a sun-of-a-gun...


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Re: For Those Wanting Jetboil Results Without Buying Jetboil... [Re: Brad] #8634768 03/01/14
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Perhaps, even better is the Olicamp pot and Vector Stove... pretty good deal for $49.00!

The Vector stove is absolutely a PR knock-off, but looks like it folds a bit smaller on the OAL:

http://www.libertymountain.com/products/5145/NTN12991

http://beforeitsnews.com/survival/2013/06/olicamp-xts-and-vector-stove-2478606.html


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Re: For Those Wanting Jetboil Results Without Buying Jetboil... [Re: Brad] #8635355 03/01/14
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Looks good miller! Now we just need a statistically valid sample size of trials. Then you have to swap the stove pot combos to make sure that's not a cause for the difference... wink Did GuNR help?

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Originally Posted by pointer
Looks good miller! Now we just need a statistically valid sample size of trials.


Before that, you need a big-ass fan.

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MT, you wouldn't by chance have a alky stove to try and see how much time is saves?





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Originally Posted by Powerguy
MT, you wouldn't by chance have a alky stove to try and see how much time is saves?


No. Only other stove is an MSR WindPro. I picked up a Micro Rocket on a whim to fill an order. I was pleasantly surprised and ended up picking up a couple more. I have one in my pickup and one in my work truck for cooking and emergency fire starter.

Maybe the local expert can chime in. wink

Re: For Those Wanting Jetboil Results Without Buying Jetboil... [Re: Powerguy] #8635638 03/01/14
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Originally Posted by Powerguy
MT, you wouldn't by chance have a alky stove to try and see how much time is saves?


A Caldera Cone does something quite similar, at less weight, and if you make it from titanium, you can allay your fears of running out of alcohol

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Re: For Those Wanting Jetboil Results Without Buying Jetboil... [Re: Take_a_knee] #8635918 03/01/14
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Good test mtmiller!

My pot should be here next week. I was gonna test with the alcohol stove for schits and gigs.



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Originally Posted by deflave
Good test mtmiller!

My pot should be here next week. I was gonna test with the alcohol stove for schits and gigs.



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Thanks Sir, i am hoping it will speed it up as well.





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Originally Posted by Powerguy
MT, you wouldn't by chance have a alky stove to try and see how much time is saves?


I took a 15min break at work today and gave my new pot its first test run using a supercat stove. I've got several alchy stoves but thought the supercat's wider/lower profile would provide stable support for the pot and the flame profile would match the diameter of the pot and the distance to the flux ring. Long story short, in 40degree windy weather (I used a wind screen) I heated 16oz of water to almost a boil (heavy steam and bubbles forming) in a timed ten minutes which is when the fuel also ran out.

I'll do more testing with other stoves. The supercat is dirt simple, and weighs nothing, but just isn't enough stove for real world conditions OR for the full 32oz capacity of the pot. I won't be surprised if the White Box ends up my favorite.........again. I've also got both E2E stove sizes, and the Gram Weenie might work as well as the WB stove, though it could be a little more tippy.

Stay tuned.


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Re: For Those Wanting Jetboil Results Without Buying Jetboil... [Re: Take_a_knee] #8637234 03/02/14
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Originally Posted by Take_a_knee
Originally Posted by pointer
Looks good miller! Now we just need a statistically valid sample size of trials.


Before that, you need a big-ass fan.
Nope. I'm not interested in the results from that variable. Besides, my big ass is an effective wind shield.

Re: For Those Wanting Jetboil Results Without Buying Jetboil... [Re: pointer] #8638476 03/02/14
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Cool gadget. I found some tests on the Olicamp wesite and a bunch more on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=xts%20olicamp%20test&sm=3

http://www.olicamp.com/products-pots/xts-pot

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Re: For Those Wanting Jetboil Results Without Buying Jetboil... [Re: DesertBighorn] #8648522 03/05/14
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I used mine with an alcohol stove. For the record, I don't like alcohol stoves but I thought I'd test it with one anyway.

Garage stays at 35 degrees. No wind. 16oz's of water brought to a boil.

Olicamp:

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Almost two minutes on the nose.


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Thanks for the test. My Gram Weenie is the next one I'm going to test. I think the White Box flame pattern would probably shoot past the base of the pots, otherwise it's my all time favorite alchy stove.

Catfood stove w/ wind is a no-go, but it's such a simple design I expected performance only slightly better than just pouring alcohol on the ground. I wasn't disappointed.......


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Good stuff there Travis.



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So Travis got 2 minutes quicker with the alcohol stove too. It makes sense to me that the Olicamp would boil fast regardless the fuel source.

Which still has me scratching my head over Walker6's results.


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Snubbie, not sure, but I think it has to help to have a burner like what's on your MSR Pocket Rocket or the Olicamp Vector Stove.


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