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Someone started a thread about a "gun" that shoots table salt... good on house flies out to about 4 feet IIRC... I expect I'll have one someday and be working on getting it set up with Crimson Trace laser grips

yep

And 37 gr of Varget, under a 50 gr Ballistic Tip, is another good one. Near max, so work up.

Are you using wind flags????
If not, you're wasting your time and getting false results.

I still think I can shoot pretty good as the .385" group I got about three weeks back with the same type of rifle, Savage Predator Hunter Max-1 in .243 caliber. Maybe it was just an off day but I had great expectations from this rifle and thought it would do as good or better than the .243 Savage. Both have the same AccuTrigger and in fact, they both look like twins. I can only tell them apart by the different scopes.

I always clean the barrel prior to shooting,TopCat. I'd never leave oil in the barrel or chamber. So, that's not a factor. Nope, I don't aim to quit, just got a little frustrated today and thought I'd vent a little. There are more bullets, Sierra, Hornady, Berger and Nosler yet to try and half a dozen different powders.

The only wind flags we have are long 2" wide ribbons someone tied to the bottom of the target frames and I watch those. However, I don't think that's all it's cracked up to be. I've gotten better groups not even paying attention to the wind or it's direction. That's for someone with a 6PPC that's looking for .100" groups.

But if it's becoming frustrating to shoot groups, shoot stuff.

It's a fact that few people recognize but not all loads are accurate from day to day. In fact, I've seen a good shooting load go sour in 30 minutes between relays.

Allan Hall once told me that you can miss a shot into a group just as you can throw a shot out of a group. Shooting itty-bitty groups is an exercise in frustration.

Read the post above about using wind flags. I've been preaching that for years but few people really believe it.

I always bring a "constant" with me to the range. Easy to decipher if it is you or the gun. If my Tikka isn't shooting, I know it is me.

That being said, I HATE load development. I only do it as a necessary evil to find a load that is suitable for long range plinking.

Go back to an old proven gun and load. This will get you back on track I bet.

Best of luck and good shooting!

twofish

Perhaps there is something to wind flags as the bench rest shooters utilize them. I never could get into that, though. I had enough to concentrate on, keeping the scope level, not canted, breathing right, squeezing the trigger, etc.

I don't think any of us can consistently shoot 3/4" or less every time we go to the range, one group after another. Take that back. I do have a pre-64 Model 70 270 that will consistently do that IF I do my part. Case in point. These groups were shot the same day, same rifle, but 30 minutes between each three shot group. Moreover, it was done with an old Lyamn 4X Perma Center scope!

+1

Sometimes I shoot groups on paper & sometimes I shoot stuff , just depends on what I feel like doing.

I never shot any inlaws cause they were deceased before I ever met 'em.
Hope I don't ever have to shoot any outlaws but if it's needed I will.

Once upon a time I killed the neighbors pitbull cause he needed it.

Mike

A canting problem can be helped by choosing a target that automatically gets you to correct cant as you aim, and by using a level when hanging said target.

I can do 5/8 MOA pretty regular for five shots at 300 yards with a 6x scope on a 308, but the type of rifle I'm using helps. I don't expect that of myself with lighter sporters.

I have a Browning BPCR in 45-70 that has a bubble level on the front sight...great for intended purposes.

Hasn't anyone said the worst day at the range beats the hell out of any day at work.

I wish that was my only problem. I had to get out today and shoot as it's been three weeks and I was going stir crazy. Good or bad groups, it was good to get out and go to the range. My leg has kept me from going and I chanced it anyway. The doc would have had a fit had he known I went. Long story. I didn't know if I could get to the 100 yard target frame and back for sure but I made it with pain.

And get closer....

somehow i am sensing a bench rest state of mind. It is connected often times to engineer types.
I have bad legs too, good to hook a grandkid into running the targets for you.
I also like shooting on the desert and have been thinking of taking my quad along, which is the motorized wheel chair for ol guys to help run the targets.

Hell of a lot of competitive shooters will argue with ya. LOL.

I did the same thing with a new Burris Signature 8-32X. I replaced it with a Tasco World Class 6-24X. The next five shot group measured .312".

Dig out a brick of .22LsR and go to an indoor range with targets that come back to you. Work on fundamentals for an hour or so, go home. Come back and do it again. Then do it again until you see the right results on a repeat basis. It will all come back to you.

1B