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Honestly I don't get it, unless you buy a suppressor and shoot subsonic ammunition it's just not any better than a 5.56 round as a hunting or SD cartridge. The folks in gun stores these days seem to still be in a swoon over the cartridge, especially guys under 35 or so. They piss all over the 5.56, and one today told me that the 5.56 was an answer to a question that was never asked and was a great "wounding" cartridge. His saving grace is he is well known as an opinionated ass but at the same time how can you not have enough brain cells to reconnoiter some elementary ballistics. Of course because he is so positive in his belief I am convinced the 5.56 won't kill stuff even though I have seen it with my own eyes. Wait till one of them puts a mag with 300's into their 5.56 and blows it up.


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<shrug> I'm a ways north of 35, and I've owned two.

A suppressor is on my to-do list for hogs and pests. And supersonic loads aren't much off the .30-30 in power. Uses the same magazines as the 5.56, so logistically it makes sense. If you decide to shoot both sub and super, you'll probably want different optics in a QD mount, as they don't even begin to shoot to the point of aim.

My Daniel is flawlessly reliable, as was the CMMG before it, but the DD is a good deal more accurate.

I like the round, even though it's not a .308 smile


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.224 isn't legal for hunting in all states.


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It oughta make a badazz woods deer rifle. But I agree the 5.56 is sufficient with the right bullets. I'd love to shoot some pigs with 125gr BT's and compare the two.

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About on par with the 30-30?
300 shoots a 125 gr bullet 2215 fps
30-30 shoots a 170 gr bullet 2227 fps

Both can be loaded hotter but 45 more grains of lead at the same velocity is a little above par.

It's a sub sonic round that has been hyped to the limit. Got to love marketing.

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Originally Posted by TWR
About on par with the 30-30?
300 shoots a 125 gr bullet 2215 fps
30-30 shoots a 170 gr bullet 2227 fps

Both can be loaded hotter but 45 more grains of lead at the same velocity is a little above par.

It's a sub sonic round that has been hyped to the limit. Got to love marketing.


Compare a 125gr BT to a flat nosed whatever at 200yd. Energies will be a LOT closer.

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What about a 125 gr NBT in a 14" Contender pistol?
Velocity still runs 2349 fps.

But most will never even try 200 yards but they will sing the song "it could".

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They passed suppressor hunting in GA, but I cannot see hunting with the 220 grain bullet.


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i got one because... well... i just wanted it. if the time comes when i don't want it anymore, it'll go to the back of the safe. if i don't think i'll ever shoot it again, i might sell it. i just wish it was a dpms grin

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Originally Posted by jimmyp
Honestly I don't get it, unless you buy a suppressor and shoot subsonic ammunition it's just not any better than a 5.56 round as a hunting or SD cartridge. The folks in gun stores these days seem to still be in a swoon over the cartridge, especially guys under 35 or so. They piss all over the 5.56, and one today told me that the 5.56 was an answer to a question that was never asked and was a great "wounding" cartridge. His saving grace is he is well known as an opinionated ass but at the same time how can you not have enough brain cells to reconnoiter some elementary ballistics. Of course because he is so positive in his belief I am convinced the 5.56 won't kill stuff even though I have seen it with my own eyes. Wait till one of them puts a mag with 300's into their 5.56 and blows it up.


Some people like new and different.

Some states don't allow the .223 for hunting.

But the vast majority simply have no experience so they come up with stupid fugging theories.



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I have hunted hogs with each 5.56 and 300BLK. I have to say I enjoy shooting both. In my experience I have to say the 300BLK does a better job at putting them down at 250 yards or less.


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Well it has a super kewl name but is little more than a 30 carbine+P. Subsonic suppressed is its niche and that is good enough I reckon. However 300bo devotees cling to it tighter than a pit bull holding a child's leg.

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Originally Posted by jimmyp
They passed suppressor hunting in GA, but I cannot see hunting with the 220 grain bullet.


Me either, thats why I"ll be using 240 or 194s...

Its sales. Pretty simple actually.

YOunger folks haven't been exposed/around as long as older ones that tend to think for themselves and come to their own conclusions.

I had a whisper many years ago, it was fun, and did exactly what it was good for, subsonic. But you could not hunt game with it here. So it went away.

Now that game is legal, its back in my gun closet X2. Both for suppressed as I see no other use for it.

IF I want better than 223 performance I"m not going the route of the 300/221. I"ll take a better choice, like x 39 or another wildcat on the 15 platform. After all I've already decided I need more than 223 can offer, I won't just stop at the first that offers more, I"ll bump it up to see what I can get.

But the media type hype has always sold. And probably always will.

Its just the latest/greatest thing otu there and because Jimmy has one that means I have to have one.

Just think about the masses that realize the drop at 200, the energy loss there and beyond, etc... might even be some good buys on them later on.. Grins.


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I have 30 cal bullets and an AR, why not? Of course I am over 35 too.


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Pimp your 300 BLK AR in classic mall ninja fashion - Tacticool.



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You can pick any decade and say what is it about the guys under 35 that are so excited about the ... ultramags, short mags, etc, etc.

There is always a segment of the buying public that has to have the "latest and greatest" even if it's just a repackaged version of something that has been around for 10, 50 or 100 years.

The young shooting public has essentially rediscovered the 30-30. Not like that is really a bad thing.

I doubt if more than a few percentage of folks that get 300 BO's will go to the trouble or expense of getting a can, but hey if it trips their trigger no harm no foul.

Spouting ballistic ignorance at the gun store is also nothing new.

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So non suppressed it's 70's at 2700 or 125's at 2200 not huge and the ammo is quite expensive in the practice ammo category. Otm blackout was $279 for 200, probably better than 500 Xm193 at $270.


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Some folks just like having "stuff". I've got a buddy with probably six half finished projects who has to borrow a complete AR if he wants to shoot with us.


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An unsuppressed BlackOut is just a toy. A really boring, schitty, toy.


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i guess i'm easily entertained, but if it hurls an object at a target, i'm happy to shoot it... even more so if i hit the target!!! but admittedly, suppressed is more fun.

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