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Originally Posted by Pappy348
Sarco has Dumoulin actions for $295 with M70-type safety and other goodies. Check out the Dumoulin website and be prepared to drool. I seem to recall seeing a photo of one of these that showed the C collar, but can't be sure. Like other actions offered in the white, these may require heat treatment. Ask before you buy.


The Domoulin Herstal Mauser action is not a C ring, it has the H cut and does not require heat treating.



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Since the patent application is presumably in German anyway, I think we'll just take your word for it. I remember just about enough German from high school to ask where the library is and order a sausage and bier. I still think the gas relief was a side benefit, not the original intent, but no biggie either way.

A man that has a thumb cut added has serious Mauser issues! Good for you.

I read once of a man that added the cut to a M70 in .458 to make it easier to load in a tight spot. He used a file, cut it too deep, and had to cycle the bolt carefully to keep from catching the left bolt lug in the hole. Whoops.


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Originally Posted by Pappy348


A man that has a thumb cut added has serious Mauser issues! Good for you.



Guilty as charged. wink



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What action is that? Did you go for the Timney Deluxe? My 1948 needs a new trigger for sure, but I want to keep the original wing safety- my Mauser issue!



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That's a Charles Daly Mini Mauser. Yes, it's Timney Deluxe. Most of the time I just go with the Sportsman model because of the price but will say the Deluxe is a very nice trigger and a definite upgrade from the Sportsman.

It's a pretty neato rifle rifle. It made the cover of the 2010 American Custom Gunmakers Guild quarterly magazine.
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That's a peach. Way out of my price bracket for sure.

What cartridge? (I almost said caliber, which would have made me the target of severe poo flinging)

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Originally Posted by TC1
Originally Posted by Pappy348


A man that has a thumb cut added has serious Mauser issues! Good for you.



Guilty as charged. wink


Insanity in anyone's language. Looks good though.

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Glad to read about the "H" vs. "C" debate. I acquired a 1954 FN action (with "H" cut) for a 6.5-06 project. I was told by several that the action was "no good" for high pressure rounds and I should go with 6.5x55. I put it on the back burner and found a Colt Light Rifle that is gonna go to NULA to be made into a 6.5-06.
Reading this now sets my mind at ease on using this action for a high pressure cartridge. Now I just need to decide on what to make it!? For some reason 400 Whelen seems popular in this community grin


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Browning used the very same FN actions as Sears for their line of rifles before they changed to the current design. All were H ring. They chambered those rifles all the way up to the large magnum cartridges such as the .338 win. mag., the .300 Win Mag, and the 458 Win. Mag.

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One thing I can tell you is that we have about 10 or 12 different mauser actions here in our shop for programming and fitting purposes. Many are old mititary actions, some are early Husky's, some FN commercial. Every one that has a thumb cut has the stripper clip slots cut in the rear ring. All the ones with no thumb cut have no stripper clip slots. The correlation is 100%. I suspect this should tell us something. I wonder about depressing the cartridges from the stripper clip into the rifle with the left hand. I seem to want to do this with the right hand, but based on the thumb cut perhaps it was intended to be one with the left.
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Oops, last sentence should end with "done with the left".

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Don't know for sure, but it seems logical that the original intention of the design was to allow the soldier to hold the rifle by the grip with the right hand, place the stripper in the slot, push the rounds home with the left thumb, pull the clip, and then shift the left hand to the forend so the right hand can run the bolt home.

With a scoped sporter, I think I would balance the rifle on my right thigh while holding it around the action with my left hand. The right hand would place rounds on the follower with the left thumb assisting as needed to push them into the magazine.

I don't currently have a rifle with the thumb cut to practice that, but that can be fixed!


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for a few dollars more... Alaska Arms makes a M-70 clone for mauser

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Imo, fwiw, neither the H cut makes an action any less desirable nor does a thumb slot detract from accuracy.

Curious how many H ring FN alone produced...more than three...:)


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2014! Yikes!

I did manage to acquire a 98 with a thumb cut a few years ago, a Heym .308 with not only the cut, but a C-ring and a clip guide. It came from a shop in North Pole, Alaska.


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All the original Mauser Sporting rifles were C ring and so were the FN actions until 1948-49
I have one FN action with a C ring and the date 1948 stamped on the ring.


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I have a Husqvarna 9.3x62 with an FN C ring action. The thumb cut also allows for gas escape along the left rail.


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My first 6.5x06 was built by Hart on a commercial Mauser action, Hart barrel, cherry wood stock with basket weave checkering, wish I had a picture but that was about two HD crashes ago. Seems like it had a C ring with the Mauser banner and no left side recess cut. Won several 100 yard running deer matches with it.

Have no idea why anyone would think a 98 Mauser was not strong enough for a 6.5x06, like saying it is not strong enough for a 270 Win, only a .013 difference in bullet diameter in an otherwise virtually identical cartridges. I use 270 brass to make my 6.5x06 brass, just trim, I do not own a 270.


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