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7 SAUM and 7 WSM, and 6.5 Leopard (WSM) and 6.5 SAUM. Haven't done any shooting with the 6.5 SAUM yet though.

I shoot my 7saum out to 700 and my 6.5x284 to 800 best kill with the saum was 625 and 815 for the 6.5.

Do you guys have a preference to 6.5 over 7 or vice versa?

With a 6.5 you can get to a .600+ BC bullet at 140 grains; with a 7 you pretty much have to go to 160+ grains to get that.

No I like both take the 7 when bear might be a side quarry. But I am fine with the 6.5 as well . Think I like the 6.5 for deer.

Personally I would hope that anyone who decides to do much BG hunting can do far better than that. If a guy kills a couple hundred head of BG animals in his life and misses 50% of the cold barrel 1st shots (regardless of distance), it's a pretty sorry showing.

I would say that a shot at an un wounded BG animal offering no better than a 50-50% chance of success should be passed up.

7mm is my personal fav between the two

Thanks fellas I appreciate the input. I really have no knowledge on longrange hunting.
Like I said theres some opportunity here but most is woods. That don't mean I cant find a field and shoot some targets!
One more question and then i'll leave you guys alone.
Whats your opinions on 260 & 7-08 for this type of hunting? In all honesty, I don't see myself going longer than 500yds.

Inside 500 they are both fine it is bullet choice that will matter. Use good boat tail bullet like amax or ballistic tip ect.

I haven't missed in 5 years and have killed 7 big game animals, but my longest shot was only 300 yards and I'm certain if I tried to shoot an antelope at 840 yards I would've missed a lot more than you did.

Fred,your not the first guy to recommend A-Maxes but on Hornadys website they DONT recommend them for hunting. What kind of results are you getting on game w/ them?

In the slower calibers you mentioned they will open up at distance. wife shot them for three years. Tell I got 1000 free 140 gr accubonds got to go with free right . Every thing she shot at to 525 yards died with a 7-08AI .

If you're shooting deer (and it's legal) I'd look at getting a .22 cal.



Travis

As in .223?? Only my 2nd year living in TN. but I do believe .22cal is legal here.

I have thought along that line but I also have an opportunity to hunt in ID next year.

Ballistic tips are good bullets, but they're not boattails so their BCs aren't up there with the A-max or Berger vlds.

It's all about the wind when you get out there, and BC affects the amount of drift.

Get a ballistics program or go on Berger's website and use their ballistics calculator to enter in different BCs and see how wind drift is affected at long range, that will give you a good idea of why bullet selection is important.

Excuse me, but Nosler Ballistic Tips are indeed "boatail" bullets anyone can see that.

You'll have to excuse smoke. He thinks boat tails have a propeller.

A ballistic tip is not a true boattail bullet. They're not flat-base, but their "boattail" is inconsequential compared to a true boattail and it shows up in the BC. Here's a photo of three 6.5 bullets, with a vld on the left, a 120 grain BT in the middle, and a 123 grain Scenar on the right. The vld and scenar are true boattail bullets:






The G1 BC of the 123 scenar is .527, and the figure given by Nosler for the BT is .458. Brian Litz has the 120 BT pegged at .418. A lot of the difference is due to the BT's lack of a true boattail.

No, but I'm pretty sure your hat does.

.243, 6.5 Creed, .260, 7-08, etc, would do the job nicely.