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tddeangelo, I wouldn't worry what anyone thinks except yourself. If you've noticed cooperfan seldom has anything positive to say about anything, so do your thing and don't worry about anyone else. That 1.7-10 sounds great to me too.


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A company cannot go from being a leading OEM to a leader in the retail segment without some growing pains. Meopta has a huge advantage over most optical companies since they make everything in house. It will only be a matter of time .

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Not sure what I did to you, but you're entitled to your opinion.

Have a good one, bud.


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i read they are putting the mcwhorter reticle in the 6-18x50 meopro this year

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Any update on Meopta's line? Anyone using the new R2?


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wonder if theyll have any additions to the meopro line as well?


anyone have to use their service department? the 6x42 is interesting to me.

I will let you know I have a NIB Meopro 6x42 with a #4 ret coming to me.


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I have a Meopta, R2, 1-6x24 RD with 4C reticle. I have not used it, but have preliminarily compared it to a Kahles Helica C and Zeiss HT in 1.1-4x24's. I would say the glass/view is damn good. And the illumination control gets it dim enough to be usable for me.

Doug at CameraLand might have an update on the 1.7-10x42. He was able to send me the 1-6x24 before I seen them actually advertised anywhere.
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Any update on Meopta's line? Anyone using the new R2?

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I guess I bought 1 of the older 1's.It is a Meopta Meostar 4-16x44 R1 with the S11 PLEX RETICLE 30mm tube .It appears to me to be an outstanding scope.I own a couple Zeiss Diavari Victory VMV'S a Swarovski Professional Hunter and it is as good if not better than both of them.

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When will the rest of these be avialble?

1.7-10x42 and 2-12x50


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Originally Posted by AMRA
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wonder if theyll have any additions to the meopro line as well?


anyone have to use their service department? the 6x42 is interesting to me.

I will let you know I have a NIB Meopro 6x42 with a #4 ret coming to me.


The most appealing one to me in the Meopro line would be the 3.5-10x44 with the illuminated reticles. Like others have said, Meopta has been a major OEM for a long time and they make great bino's and spotters. The R2 line, I believe, also has a hydrophobic type lense coating which, for me, is very desirable. Not sure what the eye relief is on the R2 line, but I'm hoping it's around 3 1/2 at least and closer to 4". The reason I bought my Leica ER was because it has 4" of ER, AquaDura coatings and is still a reasonably light scope for a euro 30mm scope. Personally, I like the fact that they also made it with a SFP reticle as for my use, I wasn't looking for a ranging type reticle for this scope set-up.

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My that is a very nice scope. I have the r1 3-12x56 and I jokingly call it the "Prince of Darkness" IF the R2's are any better then it is a heck of a scope.

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would be interesting to compare it to the 3.5-10x44 meopro. that thing is bright

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That's good to know. Personally, I'd like to wait for the non-illuminated versions to come out as I'm not real big on illuminated reticles. Hopefully, they'll have a bold #8 style reticle in the non-illuminated series. I'm vey happy with the Leica ER series non-illuminated scopes. Not to heavy and superb optics. As I've said before, hopefully the Leica ER scopes will follow Leica's well earned reputation of durable optics. I have no reason to believe they won't be. The Meopta scopes have me hoping for a viable option.

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I love their 6x42 with a Nazi #1


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Originally Posted by JGRaider
While I was at DSC, the COO of Meopta, Reinhard Seipp, told me the R2 would rival any scope made in the world, period. I am very, very impressed with him, and Meopta. They are, and will continue to be a force to be reckoned with IMO. The S2 spotter is amazing.


THIS. From now on, it's nothing but MEOPTAs for me.


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While I was at DSC, the COO of Meopta, Reinhard Seipp, told me the R2 would rival any scope made in the world, period. I am very, very impressed with him, and Meopta. They are, and will continue to be a force to be reckoned with IMO. The S2 spotter is amazing.


THIS. From now on, it's nothing but MEOPTAs for me.



Lets talk about their customer service for a minute. A few months back I bought a discontinued Meopta from a dealer in Alabama. I could not get it zeroed, I sent it in to Meopta and all they did was offer a 3.5-10x44 or a 3.5-10x50 30mm scope to replace it. I ended up with the 3.5-10x44 and it is quite a scope. I have 2 more to buy and leupold and them will be at the top of the list.

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It's so funny reading the opinions of US hunters regarding rifle scopes....it's so radically different from us European hunters, in Europe by far the most popular all-round hunting scopes are 3-12x50, 3-12x56 (2.5-10x56), 8x56, 7x50 and for driven hunt 1.5-6x42, 1.1-4x24. The latest trend is to have a 6x zoom....so its no surprise that Meopta will begin their new R2 line with the 1-6x24 and 2.5-15x56 models which will definitely be by far the most popular models in Europe !

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I'm not sure what you mean by amused by USA hunters, but perhaps our scope needs/trends are driven by the type of hunting we do, meaning mostly daytime hunting, compared to what I've understood about European hunters who apparently hunt a lot in relatively low light (night hunting ?) conditions, so the need for 50mm + objective sized lenses aren't a real concern or need for us, whereas you guys perhaps need all the brightness you can muster. We went through a little fad back in the 90's where lots of hunters here were buying 50mm+ objective lens scopes but hunters lost interest/need for these larger scopes and went back to the more traditional configurations, such as 3.10x40, 2.5-10x40/42, 6x scopes with 42mm objectives as so forth. The scope makers, who from what I've been told do tend to cater to the American market, from a business standpoint, as from what I've been told, we are the largest market as far as buying optics whether that be scopes, bino's or spotters cause we have the largest number of hunters, so, Meopta and everyone else, are a business and business's have to make a profit so that's why they listen to out trends the most.

As a side note, when you stated something about "driven hunts", am I to assume that this method is similar to what we call, pushes or drives which are done during daylight hours ? I'm going to assume so as I read in your post that the scopes used for these type hunts has much smaller objective size lenses.

The 5 to 6 zoom ratio scopes have been around here for 5-10 years, and started out with Bushnell Elite 6500 30mm scopes and then others got on the bandwagon as they do seem to offer much greater versatility for the guy who may not be able to afford numerous rifles, so with these you can use a favorite rifle from short range to pretty longer range hunting situations.

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