Home Forums Hunting & Shooting AR and Tactical Rifles Talk me into a 6.8

I would stay clear of Bison. I can personally attest to their lack of customer service and communication. I've never seen a company that ignores and pisses off so many customers. I cancelled my order with them and went with Precision Reflex. Night and day when it comes to customer service. ARP is very popular on the 6.8 forums. I've never heard anything negative about them.

I didn't mean to open a can of worms on Bison. I hear the products are good. My experience was around them missing their delivery time and then not answering any of the emails, posts through their website, or calls. When I inquired about an upper, they were very responsive. Said it would take 2-4 weeks so I let them hit my credit card which is their policy. After 5 weeks, I tried several times over week 5-8 to get some type of estimate of delivery. They never responded to anything. I finally gave up and cancelled. There is a 13 page thread on the 6.8 forums in the Bison page about people having similar issues.

Apparently it's hit or miss on their customer service. I've never heard a bad thing about their products.

here's all I know.
A 5.56 will drive a 62 grain TSX bullet over 26.5 grains of TAC 16.5 inch barrel slap thru a 170 pound bucks shoulders at 50 yds, same 5.56 will fail to shoot a 75 grain Swift S2 thru same size buck or medium sized pigs shoulders at about the same distance all animals dead and recovered.

A 300 BO will drive a 110 Vor-TX going about 2000 FPS slap thru a 120 pound bucks shoulders at 50 yards bigger exit hole.

Duh, a 308 is not in the same league but it weights a lot, if your shooting 300-500 yards I see its worth or if you have to shoot thru medium sized SUV's etc. However I have seen plenty of dead deer and pigs recovered from 308 and 30-06 where the cup and core bullets killed but did not exit, over-scoped, over head-stamped, and under bulleted to quote someone. Sorry about the Grendal but I guess a bolt 308 or something for those 1000 yard shots.

What I am wondering is if a 130 grain .277 cal TSX bullet at 2500 or so using a full cartridge case of TAC might give you a 100-200 yard gun that will shoot thru medium pig shoulders in a scoped sub 8 pound gun.

95 TTSX at 3000 interesting!

Esox357 you can lead them to water but you can't make em drink it.

The Grendel is king in the AR15.

I recently bought a 6.8 upper from Iron Works Tactical, they are active on the 6.8 forums and a sponsor over at Predatormasters. I had priced barrels, components etc at various places and was going to build it myself, but they had everything I wanted at a fair price assembled.

16" scout profile ARP barrel, Aero upper receiver, ARP superbolt, 13" troy alpha rail. I put a VXR 3-9x40 on it, and it weighs something like 8.25 lb. Plenty handy for me.

It shoots 120SST factory hornady around 2450 fps according to my chrony, I set it at about 2" high at 100 for 200yd zero. I have only shot it to sight in, went hunting once with it on Thanksgiving. I shot a 200lb sow at 50yds just behind the shoulder. Punched ribcage and dropped her where she stood, no exit. I like it so far...

Well for what its worth, it was not Alexanders creation. It is simply a 6.5ppc in basics.

And it shoots at long range unbelievably well.

I have shot it a fair amount in its developmental stages.

As well as it shot, I find it hard to believe that there are better rounds than it on the range in the wind, but I dont' doubt for a minute that there are rounds mentioned that will be as good or pretty close.

But then again I happen to believe that there really isn't much or many situations that the AR in 223 with the right bullet won't just about do it all.

Especially after running the 6.8 necked to 6 and expecting more but not really seeing its improvements over the 223.

No exit, that would scare me and I'd start looking for a better bullet or even a better round...

7.62x39 with a 125 ballistic tip will leave an exit on pigs up to the biggest I've tapped with it so far, 75ish yards and 278 on the scale.. with not thin shields.

Of course SSTs are fragile to start with IMHO.