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Wonder what Galileo and Darwin would think of that. It could be argued Western Civilization formed in spite of Christianity.

Or is it more accurate to say Western Civilization continued to form in spite of Christianity?

If you really want to put a fine point on it, the Catholics formed Spain, Portugal, Italy and most all of France.

Calvinists pretty much dominated in Scandinavia, the Low Countries and Germany.

The Brits made it up as they went along.

The Greeks were orthodox.... much good it did them.

Pretty interesting, if you get down to it.

http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/history/HistTopics/Heliocentric.html
The above is an interesting read. Some like Giordano Bruno didn't fair well for their science- burned alive by the church. The history of mathematics is interesting from China, Algeria and the west.

Uh, NO! Shall we begin with Stalin and work our way backwards.

No, it is not more accurate to say that. There is a good debate on the very subject on you tube between Christopher Hitchens and John Lennox. Hitchens admits he lost that particular one.

Technically the heliocentric view of the universe is as wrong as the geocentric one. The universe doesn't revolve around the earth nor the sun. The geocentric view is not necessarily a fundamentalist Christian view but an old Aristotleian theory that was passed down until it was disproven.

Either way you can not say that Western civilization started with Darwin nor Galileo. It started with the fall of a Christianized Roman empire. Faith and reason are not at odds and science, religion, and philosophy are three(different but not separate) ways to the truth.

Either way I don't see how it matters what I believe or you believe. If you're a right-wing pro-Western type you could be an atheist, a pagan, or a mithras cultists for all I care. I am not a religious fanatic. I am however a nationalist.

All of those countries except for Greece were Catholic in the beginning before the divisiveness of the Reformation. The Greeks were Christian and then started calling themselves Orthodox after the Greek-Latin Schism. Greece, Russia, the Slavic lands, Anatolia(modern day Turkey) and some parts of of the Middle East(esp. Egypt) became The East while Western Europe(both north and south), Central Europe, and some parts of the Middle East and most of North Africa became the West.

Unfortunately, large parts of the East and even much of the West were lost to the Islamic hordes and are no longer Western. While Iberia was recovered, North Africa, the land of St. Augustine, never was.

Look at Hitchen's brother, Peter Hitchens. The complete opposite of his brother in both belief, personality, and integrity.

In all honesty, the man was a Trotskyite, of the same plague that is affecting this nation as it is all nations. If I were an unbeliever and one that was pro-nation and pro-civilization, I would be banking upon the words of men like Julius Evola, Darwin, Spengler, Charles Maurras, Yukio Mishima, Friedrich Nietszche and the like. Men like Nietszche, Evola, and Darwin were geniuses even though they were unbelievers(not that unbelievers are automatically stupid anymore than Christians are) while people like Dawkins, Thomas Paine, and Hitchens are not.