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Originally Posted by BobinNH
RD: Well yeah maybe but there's a shidt load of Leupolds out there is my point.


Yep, and a large variety of models being retro'd with turrets.

NF is just getting into a "lower" end option, it'll be interesting to see how their reputation holds up in the future.

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Originally Posted by BobinNH
RD: Well yeah maybe but there's a shidt load of Leupolds out there is my point.


I agree Bob. Wasn't trying to be a contrary guy, just saying that there are an awful lot of broken scope (code worded customer service sometimes) compared to all the other brands combined. Perhaps more to your point, there are very few reports of Leupold's fixed power scopes going down and if there are any more Leupold's in my future, they will be fixed powers for certain.

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Over the years, I've spoken with Matt and Dave of Hill Country Rifles several times regarding Leupolds QC. The boys at HCR see their share (and then some) of Leupolds, and have noted that over the past several years, the QC has indeed taken a hit.

And the deterioration has nothing to do with the number of popped primers, nor fiddling with turrets. New scopes straight out of the box having issues. Canted reticles, parallax issues, erectors not tracking, not holding zero, etc.



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I highly doubt the "lower" end NF scope will be any less of a product than their current product... Although the SHV is not built to NXS specs of the 2 I have, I have not experienced a single problem...

The 5-20 SHV I have sits on a 6.5 SLR and has right at about 1700 rounds under it... The Substensions on the MOAR have proved to be accurate and dialing out to 1360 yds with the capped turret has not been a problem with a perfect RTZ each time...

The 4-14 SHV was on a 6x47 Improved (6/222 Rem Mag AI)and has seen about 3500 rounds... I recently put a 2.5-10x42 on it so the SHV was moved to a 223 Vanilla... Between now and the first of the year it will see about 2K rounds as we'll hit the P-Dog towns before the snow/cold drives them down in the holes...

As soon as I get my hands on a 3-10x42 SHV I'll throw it on a high count rifle and put it through the paces and see how it performs... I would think it will be no different than what I have become accustomed to with the NF product... If not I will speak up...



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I can't seem to find this SHV 2-10 for sale anywhere...are they new?




The 280 Remington is overbore.

The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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yes....I'm sure Alex Roy has em at Euro Optic

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NF just released the announcement yesterday...

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elkhunter: Oohhh.....OK guess we gotta wait. Thanks smile


RD: Just saw your post. I will check on line.

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The 280 Remington is overbore.

The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Not till sometime during 1st quarter 2015 according to NF contact...

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Sorry Bob, I must have been thinking about the 4-14. Just saw the scope listed at Euro-Optic for around a grand. Also noticed the weight of 27 ounces. Does anyone know if this is a USA assembled scope or a Light Optical product ?

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OK guys thank you.




The 280 Remington is overbore.

The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Originally Posted by BobinNH
elkhunter: Oohhh.....OK guess we gotta wait. Thanks smile


RD: Just saw your post. I will check on line.


I don't know how these compare to the Nightforce, but so far everyone who has one is reporting good results.

[u][color:#000099]Bushnell Long Range Hunting Scope[/color][/u]


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Originally Posted by RDFinn
Sorry Bob, I must have been thinking about the 4-14. Just saw the scope listed at Euro-Optic for around a grand. Also noticed the weight of 27 ounces. Does anyone know if this is a USA assembled scope or a Light Optical product ?


All NightForce scopes are USA assembled... The SHV's are marked Made in Japan... This is due to the country of origin for it's core components... All of the final assembly and quality assurance testing is conducted at their factory in Idaho...

As for the LRHS... Its a nice scope and I've had a few... With that said I found a few things that I disliked on it and will replace them all as well... It should be a great scope for the casual hunter/shooter as is the Leupold...

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What didn't you care for sire ?

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My sniper contact likes the Bushy HDMR version.


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Isn't that the short 34mm version that Formy always speaks highly of Jim ? The Budhnell LRHS is better suited for a hunting rig due to it's extra length to make mounting easier on long action rifles. Formy also states that it is holding up quite well and I belive it is quite a bit lighter than the pure tactical version. It was designed more for hunters.

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I'm not sure. I've only seen a grand total of one, sitting on top of a T3 tactical.


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Originally Posted by RDFinn
What didn't you care for sire ?


Note sure if you're trying to be cute, sarcastic or just plain stupid but I will consider the source...

For one the windage turret zero reset lands on just either side of zero and IMO seems cheesy for a lack of a better technical term... It is capped so failure there would be limited...

The elevation turret zero reset can only be set to every other click... The turret and brass mating piece have 50 teeth, and with only 50 teeth, only every other click can be indexed... the turret has 0.1 mrad per click and 10 mrad per complete turn for a total of 100 clicks... This could have been better thought out before release of the product IMO...

I had one unit that the sunshade when unscrewed would turn the objective lens piece which if not given care would expose the lens and the scope tube internals (?)... This turned out to be a chingered thread on the sunshade...

This same scope died after 550 rds of 223... The elevation turret locked up and would not rotate... It was returned to the provider and replaced...

Everything else with the scope seemed fine... Glass, tracking, reticle, etc... Just not the scope for me... Ive had 3 of them... Two well used scopes went to individuals that loved them locally and one safe queen was sold... I no longer own one...

As far as the Bushnell HDMR version, I have used one and had no problems with it but would not own one either...

YMMV...


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Isn't that the short 34mm version that Formy always speaks highly of Jim ? The Budhnell LRHS is better suited for a hunting rig due to it's extra length to make mounting easier on long action rifles. Formy also states that it is holding up quite well and I belive it is quite a bit lighter than the pure tactical version. It was designed more for hunters.

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