24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
-->
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 10,790
C
cra1948 Offline OP
Campfire Outfitter
OP Offline
Campfire Outfitter
C
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 10,790
I see in the new American Rifleman that a 28 Nosler has been announced to be the be all/end all of 7mm cartridges. Are we going to see a 24 or possibly a 22 that would eclipse the Swift? Inquiring mins want to know. Is Bob Nosler actually the reincarnation of Charles Newton?


Mathew 22: 37-39



GB1

Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 33,687
E
EdM Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
E
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 33,687
For some it matters. That is good.


Conduct is the best proof of character.
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 15,868
O
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
O
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 15,868
Another solution in desperate search of a problem.


There are 2 rules to success:

1. Never tell everything that you know.
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 9,472
B
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
B
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 9,472
I get a kick out the guys that bitch about new cartridges. Like they somehow invalidate their pet rounds..

Last edited by BWalker; 01/21/15.
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 25
S
Campfire Greenhorn
Offline
Campfire Greenhorn
S
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 25
The 26 Nosler is a 6.5mm not a 7mm.


NRA Range Technical Team Advisor-Retired
Nra Endowment member
TSRA member
NRA F-class Master
NRA Pistol Coach-Retired
IC B2

Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 909
C
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
C
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 909
Originally Posted by swampshooter
The 26 Nosler is a 6.5mm not a 7mm.


True that, but they just announced a 28.

Last edited by Captain; 01/21/15.

NRA Benefactor Member

"When democracy turns to tyranny, the armed citizenry still gets to vote!"
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 96,040
E
Campfire Oracle
Online Content
Campfire Oracle
E
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 96,040
Maybe next year Nosler will announce a .30 Nosler. wink


Life Member SCI
Life Member DSC
Member New Mexico Shooting Sports Association

Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell

Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard

Ken
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 19,106
Campfire Ranger
Online Content
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 19,106
Quote
I get a kick out the guys that bitch about new cartridges. Like they somehow invalidate their pet rounds..


Problem is a few years down the road when you can't get ammo for it. miles


Look out for number 1, don't step in number 2.
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 32,143
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 32,143
I thought that Rick Jamison was the reincarnation of Charles Newton.

Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,033
M
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
M
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,033
Originally Posted by 260Remguy
I thought that Rick Jamison was the reincarnation of Charles Newton.


Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Maybe next year Nosler will announce a .30 Nosler. wink


Inside sources say it's going to be a .29 Nosler next... MD will then sue and retire!

Last edited by msquared; 01/21/15.
IC B3

Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 18,453
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 18,453
Maybe they'll cash in on the massive success of the 325 WSM......a Nosler 325

Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 96,040
E
Campfire Oracle
Online Content
Campfire Oracle
E
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 96,040
Then MD can take a few select members here on a Safari.....in Tanzania....for Cape buffalo... grin laugh


Life Member SCI
Life Member DSC
Member New Mexico Shooting Sports Association

Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell

Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard

Ken
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 3,943
W
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
W
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 3,943
Originally Posted by cra1948
...a 28 Nosler has been announced to be the be all/end all of 7mm cartridges.


As far as SAAMI cartridges go, wouldn't the 7mm RUM still be the king of the roost?

Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,071
D
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
D
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,071
Originally Posted by RDFinn
Maybe they'll cash in on the massive success of the 325 WSM......a Nosler 325

I would think .338 would be more likely than .325.

I hope they don't get too carried away and overshoot the runway...

Nosler is a great marketing company and some of those "failed" rounds probably lacked a full court press with marketing...

Roy Weatherby was THE master marketer who also knew how to wildcat new rounds. Lot more wildcatters out there than true marketing geniuses. You gotta be good to make your mark in an otherwise crowded field. Back in Roy's day, the field wasn't that crowded; in that era Roy WAS the hi vel guru and he knew how to present his stuff to the market...

DF

Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 9,714
S
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
S
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 9,714
Those of you from the US are losing out on a fantastic marketing and sales opportunity. Start writing the bullet companies now!! You would have to use the metric system, but far more bullet diameters (and therefore, new cartridges) can be designed.

If one increments the diameters by 0.1mm, think of how many new cartridges can be tested? I'll give you an example.

5.45x45mm (223 Win)
5.55x45mm
5.65x45mm
5.75x45mm
5.85x45mm
6.00x45mm (the present 6x45mm)

There would be an increased demand for bullets, as well as testing and experimentation! Think of the lively discussions we could have here. Think of the magazine articles!

Why My 5.65x45mm beats the 5.55x45mm

Exclusive Test Results!!
Why 5mm Makes a Difference: The 5.85x45mm vs the 5.85x50mm!


There's gold in them there hills!!


Safe Shooting!
Steve Redgwell
www.303british.com

Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - Mark Twain
Member - Professional Outdoor Media Association of Canada
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 18,453
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 18,453
Originally Posted by War_Eagle
Originally Posted by cra1948
...a 28 Nosler has been announced to be the be all/end all of 7mm cartridges.


As far as SAAMI cartridges go, wouldn't the 7mm RUM still be the king of the roost?


Yes. I think the length of the Nosler makes it work better in a wider variety of actions though. Probably one of the many reasons that the 300 WM is so successful too.

Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,071
D
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
D
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,071
Originally Posted by War_Eagle
Originally Posted by cra1948
...a 28 Nosler has been announced to be the be all/end all of 7mm cartridges.


As far as SAAMI cartridges go, wouldn't the 7mm RUM still be the king of the roost?

The 28 Nosler would probably be more efficient, especially with all the new powders now available. And performance shouldn't be too far behind the bigger round.

With a 3.34" COAL round in a 3.6" box mag, one would have a lot of bullet seating options with sleek, heavy for caliber LR offerings.

DF

Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 18,453
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 18,453
Exactly...

Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,071
D
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
D
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,071
With 869 powder, for example, the 26 will burn 90 gr. with 120 gr. bullets and I'd think the 28 would be pretty close with 140's, etc. The 7mm RUM burns 100+ gr. 869 with 140's. The difference in velocity is going to be much less than the difference in powder burned. Or said another way, that extra 10+ gr. 869 won't produce enough extra velocity to make that big of a difference.

It seems to me, the Creedmoor/.260 discussion may be a rough parallel. The Creed is set up to accommodate longer, heavy for caliber bullets and still fit a SA box mag. And, the performance difference between those two isn't that remarkable.

We've never had the selection of powders currently available. And with those selections, std. rounds can sometimes do extraordinary things. Bigger is better, generally, but not always the optimal choice...

With Nosler's marketing prowess, I think the 28 will be a success. They'll see to it.

DF


Last edited by Dirtfarmer; 01/21/15.
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 15,868
O
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
O
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 15,868
Originally Posted by BWalker
I get a kick out the guys that bitch about new cartridges. Like they somehow invalidate their pet rounds..
I have no issues with new cartridges. I have not seen where this new introduction will be any different, much less superior, than the 7RUM.


There are 2 rules to success:

1. Never tell everything that you know.
Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4

Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
AX24

526 members (17CalFan, 22kHornet, 222Sako, 10gaugemag, 160user, 10Glocks, 41 invisible), 2,679 guests, and 1,096 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,191,290
Posts18,467,910
Members73,928
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 


Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.090s Queries: 15 (0.004s) Memory: 0.8957 MB (Peak: 1.0475 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-04-25 12:57:34 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS