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150 Ballistic Tips don't kill elk either... ![[Linked Image]](http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa326/bradmacmt/Misc/7-08_zpsa42a9662.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa326/bradmacmt/Hunting/bull11114_zps1f5a4fe4.jpg)
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Brad, what velocities are you getting with the 150 and Var-jay?
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Hey, why fling one bullet when you can fling 2? 
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Hey, why fling one bullet when you can fling 2? The bull only took one... the upper hole in his side is where he impaled himself with his 5th when he dropped. Seriously. Have never seen that before, and it took some work to get him untangled!
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Brad, what velocities are you getting with the 150 and Var-jay? Depending, high 2,600's to low 2,700's. Nosler Brass, Fed 210M's.
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Everyone knows a 150 NBT is too tough for deer though...
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I was just messin' with ya.
But it does sound totally possible.........
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I was just messin' with ya.
But it does sound totally possible......... Oh I know you are... sure looks like a bullet hole, yeah? Darndest thing I've seen in a long while. Bull took the 150 in the ribs, bullet angled forward through 32" of elk and was under the offside Scapula. Bull trotted 50 yards, and piled up. Stone dead when I got to him a minute later.
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Everyone knows a 150 NBT is too tough for deer though... Of course
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Hey Brad,
It's those darned ballistic tips. Everybody knows they don't shoot and blow up on the hide of a cottontail...
As for the elk impaling himself, I hear that deflave does it regularly. Wouldn't be surprised to see a lot of GIYs on the campfire...
The elk isn't the only guy to suffer damage from a fifth either...
Thank's for the tip on Mchale. It's in the works...
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Right on John... looking forward to the results.
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Nice shooting...what velocity are you getting with 2000mr?
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Let's keep facts out of this conversation. Kimbers never shoot and that is the end of the story.
I've heard it here for years, and every time mine shoots like that I tell myself "that did not just happen".
Sheesh, now on to the Kimber bashing>
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Power, all 16 Montana's I've had would shoot something sub moa. A couple of them shot darn near everything sub moa.
I bedded all mine but I have never "resorted" to a pressure point. All barrels were free floated, but all shanks/chambers were bedded.
Montana's can be finicky, no doubt. But if you're flexible and allow the rifle to tell you what it likes, rather than try to force it to like something you want, you'll find something very accurate.
This 7-08 for example will not group a Partition... but loves a boattail. And it definitely prefers bullets heavier than 145 grains, even though I have more than a few tiny groups with the 140 NBT. It's far more consistent with the 150 NBT!
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Nice shootin' Brad!
I am still trying to decide between a 7-08 or a 270.
If you ever get another one in 270 I call dibs!
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Sammer, knowing your love for the 270 and the fact you have a 243 I'd say 270. That's about as perfect a Montana (the state!) pairing I can think of. Granted, I prefer the 84M action slightly over the 84L, but it's a gnat straining thing. Get the 270, cut the barrel to 22" or 23" and put up some great photos!
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Power, all 16 Montana's I've had would shoot something sub moa. A couple of them shot darn near everything sub moa.
I bedded all mine but I have never "resorted" to a pressure point. All barrels were free floated, but all shanks/chambers were bedded.
Montana's can be finicky, no doubt. But if you're flexible and allow the rifle to tell you what it likes, rather than try to force it to like something you want, you'll find something very accurate.
This 7-08 for example will not group a Partition... but loves a boattail. And it definitely prefers bullets heavier than 145 grains, even though I have more than a few tiny groups with the 140 NBT. It's far more consistent with the 150 NBT! I think the 150BT being more accurate than the 140BT is pretty much across the board with all rifles.
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