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Bartlein will do a slightly smaller contour than Krieger. I have a #2 bartlein 6.5mm & a #2B 7mm (same as everybody else's #3). Krieger started that stupid no skinny stainless policy & several other makers followed them. Crow Hunter, Those will be very short barrels after chambered-22" Wondering if Bartlein will a 2b that will finish @ 24" Go to their website. The blank is 24" and you need to tale about an inch of off each end before chambering.
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Bartlein will do a slightly smaller contour than Krieger. I have a #2 bartlein 6.5mm & a #2B 7mm (same as everybody else's #3). Krieger started that stupid no skinny stainless policy & several other makers followed them. Crow Hunter, Those will be very short barrels after chambered-22" Wondering if Bartlein will a 2b that will finish @ 24" Go to their website. The blank is 24" and you need to take about an inch of off each end before chambering.
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- And I've heard that Bartlein was founded by a bunch of guys that used to be at Kreiger
And along with Mike Rock, all trained under Boots Obermyer, which is still making barrels..Lots of good ones out there. My first Bart is being chambered right now, and I bet I like it. Mullerworks is the same story. And my Muller shoots wonderfully. Isnt Muller running the show at Rock Creek these days as well as turning out his own barrels?
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Bartlein will do a slightly smaller contour than Krieger. I have a #2 bartlein 6.5mm & a #2B 7mm (same as everybody else's #3). Krieger started that stupid no skinny stainless policy & several other makers followed them. Crow Hunter, Those will be very short barrels after chambered-22" Wondering if Bartlein will a 2b that will finish @ 24" Go to their website. The blank is 24" and you need to take about an inch of off each end before chambering. I could be wrong but I think the chart might be the max they will finish at?? I have a 7MM "2B" at the smith now and I'm pretty sure the blank was 27". It will be finished at 22.5" with a 3/4" shank, not sure I could get that out of a 24" blank.
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Isn't Muller running the show at Rock Creek these days No.....
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Bartlein will do a slightly smaller contour than Krieger. I have a #2 bartlein 6.5mm & a #2B 7mm (same as everybody else's #3). Krieger started that stupid no skinny stainless policy & several other makers followed them. Crow Hunter, Those will be very short barrels after chambered-22" Wondering if Bartlein will a 2b that will finish @ 24" Go to their website. The blank is 24" and you need to take about an inch of off each end before chambering. The 7mm #2B blank I bought from Southern Precision Rifles (bugholes.com) and came as a 27" blank, I had it finished at 24" on my 7mm rem mag with a 1.25" shank length. The 6.5mm I ordered straight from Bartlein and specified it as finishing at 22" for my 6.5x47L with a 1" shank length. I can't remember the unfinished length, but I wanted it as a blank where the gunsmith would only need to lop 1" off the end before crowning. I've found that you can get the bore off center sometimes if you have to cut 3-4" off a barrel to get the finished length you want. I believe the length bartlein shows on the website is what it'll finish at, not the blank length. I would think a gunsmith should be able to get a 26" barrel or close to it out of a 27" blank if he uses the full length of the shank. The only end that has to be cut off is the muzzle to remove the last 1" so the lapping "bell" can be cut off. The chamber itself takes care of that on the breech end and the barrel length is measured from the bolt face. In any case it's not really an issue for me since I don't do longer than 24" barrels on hunting rifles. I've got some heavy barreled rifles with longer than 24" barrels, but anything I'm going to carry hunting gets a lighter contour and shorter barrel.
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I believe the length bartlein shows on the website is what it'll finish at, not the blank length. Correct.....the bottom of the page says: All barrels come with 1" extra overall length for cutting and crowning.
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My Krieger will out shoot my Bartlien 50% of the time. And THIS is why my 243 and 7STW will be sporting Krieger's on the very next two builds!
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Most of the top finishers are actually using Bartlein. But it's because most of them are using GAP rifles and GAP uses Bartlein. But Krieger is still well represented.
I'll see if I can find the link.
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My Krieger will out shoot my Bartlien 50% of the time. And THIS is why my 243 and 7STW will be sporting Krieger's on the very next two builds! Read slower......
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My next four builds/re-barrels are coming with Bartlein barrels.
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krieger isn't as popular for all the tactical type builds out there. barlein seems to be alot more popular for tactical rifles. I dunno why they just are.
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Called today and Bartlein confirmed the 2b would finish @ 24" the sky really isn't falling...........
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I just ordered a #3 Bartlein today. Planning to finish it at 24". Doesn't the smith have to lob some off of chamber end to get desired shank length? Anyone know what the muzzle diameter will be on this @ 24". Says is .650 @26".
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My Krieger will out shoot my Bartlien 50% of the time. And THIS is why my 243 and 7STW will be sporting Krieger's on the very next two builds! Read slower...... I did, can't go wrong with either, so I just ordered 2 Krieger's because I can get them faster than a Bartlein at the time I ordered.......
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I just ordered a #3 Bartlein today. Planning to finish it at 24". Doesn't the smith have to lob some off of chamber end to get desired shank length? Anyone know what the muzzle diameter will be on this @ 24". Says is .650 @26". Your 'smith will have to cut a bit off the shank end. I think about an inch on a #3, assuming you desire an inch of shank. If you kept the full shank a 24 inch finish would be 0.670. I made this mistake (of keeping the full shank) once. Cutting an inch or so off the shank end would mean something in the middle, but I don't know the exact measurement.
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Is an inch of shank in front of the lug about standard in a mid weight rifle?
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My Krieger will out shoot my Bartlien 50% of the time. And THIS is why my 243 and 7STW will be sporting Krieger's on the very next two builds! Read slower...... I did, can't go wrong with either, so I just ordered 2 Krieger's because I can get them faster than a Bartlein at the time I ordered....... There are stocking dealers of Bartlein. I bought one today that will ship tomorrow.
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For the most part a 1" shank is a good choice for a mid weight!
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