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After two thousand years of people devoting their lives to noodling it out you're surprised there have been changes? Not in the basic truths, they are unchanging, but in all the ancillary stuff left to men to figure out.

antelope_sniper,



Here's the problem with some here. They can't use Scripture or they will be hypocrites for calling me a biblolater. Life on the 'fire is so much fun.

Just how does a person properly use "Scripture" (heavy material) and how does one know that he is doing so properly?

"What do you really know about his will?"

I have no idea what His will is for you, or for anyone other than myself. He reveals that to me day by day, sometimes minute by minute.

Apparently He wants me to be content and at peace with myself since that is my usual state. That's a far cry from the way I was the first forty three years of my life.

CCCC,

See post above. Maybe after two thousand years of the best heads worrying over it they can give you some clues.

Content and at peace.

That's a good description of me as well.

Proper: As a guide for personal belief and personal behavior, if so incline.

Improper: Anything outside of Proper.

yep.

antelope_sniper,



No one else is giving Scripture so I will. This is the only One I know Which actually uses the words "will of God" that I can remember.

1 Thessalonians 4:3-8
For this is the will of God, your sanctification; that is, that you abstain from sexual immorality; that each of you know how to possess his own vessel in sanctification and honor, not in lustful passion, like the Gentiles who do not know God; and that no man transgress and defraud his brother in the matter because the Lord is the avenger in all these things, just as we also told you before and solemnly warned you. For God has not called us for the purpose of impurity, but in sanctification. So, he who rejects this is not rejecting man but the God who gives His Holy Spirit to you.

We'd just be one big happy caliphate, if not for the Catholic church.

Good point.

However that begs a big question. So much of Islam is ripped off from Judaism and Christianity, it's doubtful that without them Islam would have ever emerged.

Now there is a thought to ponder. I am just guessing but I think you may be right.

On the other hand, it is clear to me islam is of Satan and may have prevailed anyway.

Does this mean you don't celebrate First Amendment day?

antelope_sniper,

I read a book by an imam. He has a Ph.D in world religions. He graduated number two in a class of 6,000 from Cairo University. He said Mohammad was taught by a demon what to teach and say. The demon would be quite familiar with Judaism and Christianity.

Islam wasn't always such a backward, anti-progess, messed up religion. Up until the 1100's it was actually very progressive, then along came Abū Ḥāmid Muḥammad ibn Muḥammad al-Ghazālī and it's been screwed up beyond belief ever since.

I don't believe in an anit-christ, but if there ever was one, this asshat was it.

Does the 1st need a special day to celebrate it?

I thought every day we could post on the Fire was First Amendment day?

It may go all the way back to Abraham. Ishamel as I recall was the older brother of Issac. I recall that Moslems claim thier heritage back to Ishmael and in turn to Abraham. Thus Abraham could be considered, by some, as the start of both Jews and Moslems.

Some one with more knowledge can chime in here.

TF

Approximately exactly.