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I think he already has the info but I'll check with him, I bought it off Blair 2years ago so it's probably listed under his name.

I do have MDs 303 in my logs under blair's name.

Joe, can you please confirm that your gun has a fluted comb? a 24" barrel? (all others in my log are 22") And that the numbers match?

Rory,

99R in 243 in the box here: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=326549966

Also, the earliest RS with a redfield in my logs belongs to a member here and is 384,7xx. (there is one outlier in the Lyman to Redfield transition)

I also don't have any info for John A's 30-30R... the only one that I have in my log is Fugs now and I believe used to belong to Doug Murray.

There are a few outliers in the R data base regarding fluted combs. Joe's 303R is in my records with a fluted comb well before the fluted combs started showing up consistently. There is also another 303R that was for sale at the KC gun show years ago (Rick you might remember this) and was later linked to here and someone on the board here bought it (it was really nice!). Anyways, serial is 343,57x and it is in my records as having a fluted comb. Other than those two, the data is really consistent.

I also do not have any records of late Rs or EGs with fluted combs in my personal records though not all of my guns have that info recorded... I do seem to recall a really late 99EG with a fluted comb but could be wrong.

just as an FYI... I have 103 recorded prewar Rs and RSs. As well as 27 RTs.

So.. list of 99RS versions that should match up to 99R versions. Updated with new/better pictures and slightly edited descriptions.

V1) First is pre-WW2, no fluted comb, flat bottomed sling studs, came with sling, 3pt checkering and Lyman 30 1/2 tang sight, Lyman #6 rear sight. Serial number range of 342,5xx to 345,8xx.



V2) Second is pre-WW2, fluted comb, 3pt checkering, flat bottomed sling studs, came with sling, Lyman 30 1/2 tang sight, Lyman #6 rear sight. (Checkering on the side panel doesn't count). Serial number range from 345,8xx to 355,6xx.



V3) Third is pre-WW2, fluted comb, 2pt checkering on buttstock, 1 less point on forearm checkering than V2, flat bottomed sling studs, came with sling. 357,8xx to 414,3xx.
-> Revision 1 has a Lyman 30 1/2 tang sight with Lyman #6 rear.
-> Revision 2 has a Redfield 70LH peep sight with rear sight blank.

Revision 1 with Lyman 30 1/2 from 357,8xx to 378,8xx.


Revision 2 with Redfield 70LH from 386,xxx to 415,xxx'ish.


V4) Fourth is post-WW2, no fluted comb, triangular checkering on forearm, d&t for scope bases, Redfield 70LH peep sight, sling eyes, not sold with hooks or sling. 532,xxx to 775,xxx?

V5) Fifth is post-WW2, no fluted comb, triangular checkering on forearm, d&t for scope bases, Redfield 70LH peep sight, sling eyes, not sold with hooks or sling, receivers long enough to handle the 243/308/358 Winchester cartridges. 900,000 to 969,xxx. Identical in appearance to V4, just internals of the receiver changed.





Gaps in serial number ranges are because we have no samples inside of those ranges.

Rory, all of the pre war RS you have photos of above have added sling eyes?

No, the pictured pre-WW2 99RS's all have original flat bottomed sling studs. Though now I notice that V2 picture is missing a buttstock slingstud. Need a picture of a more original V2 specimen with the Lyman 30 1/2, if anybody happens to have one to donate.

Buttstock Slingstud picture here

Thanks for posting these photos and the accompanying descriptions Rory.

I picked up a late pre-war RS in .300 recently that I'll post photos of soon.

Rod

Rory

V2 now has the missing butt stock stud. Had to buy a shooter grade RS to get the stud. Pre war RS shooter 300 with non correct studs and added wood cheek piece now for sale. GW

Nice! I have to admit I did that on one of mine as well. I like that rifle (can't get a much classier hunting gun!), but for purposes of showing the different versions, it would be nice to have a picture of an unmodified specimen.

I have three EGs with 900,000+ serial numbers. After reading this thread I pulled them from the gun safe. No. 907,8xx (.308) and No. 925,0xx (.243) do not have fluted combs.

But, No. 967,3xx (.358) does have a fluted comb. LBC is 11K making it a 1959 rifle. This rifle also has a folding rear sight which appears to be original. Murray's book says the rear sight on the F was changed to a folding sight in 1959, so I'm wondering if this is the same sight. Which also leads me to wonder if Savage ran out of EG/R parts and used F parts where possible on late EG/R rifles.

Sorry, but I haven't taken the time yet to figure out the details of how to post photos. (I have read the info in the misc good info post.)

From google overtime the 99RS was dropped in 1958 and the 99R continued until 1960. Tom

Yep, I've seen late 99EG's with fluted combs. Don't know what the cutoff is, didn't think to save all of the serial numbers on them. Once they started drilling and tapping the EG receivers for scopes, I would expect they probably started with folding rear sights.

EG in 358... good find!

have you sent me the info on that one yet? Not a huge deal but we could still tighten the numbers up a little... though frankly, they are probably "tighter" than any other model transition.

Drew--

I'll send you the info on it soon.

Rod

Just a note. J.A. has a pre-war 303 R, but I don't know the serial number. Could ask next time I see him if interested.

I have a post war R in 300. It has flat bottom sling studs that look like the one in the picture in the link posted above. I think mine is a 1951. The studs are wider than new studs, and new swivels won't work because the stud is so wide they won't latch. I really didn't notice the little spring loaded latch wasn't secure until the sling came off walking across a field last year. I grabbed the sling before the rifle hit the ground, but the muzzle did get a load of mud in it. What should post war studs look like, Joe.

Do you have measurements on those studs?

Post war Rs have sling eyes, not studs.

You may have something of value there!

Ya, I'm wondering if I'm actually seeing my first post war 99RS.

My 1950 R in 250 has eyes. The 51 R in 300 has studs. All I had was a tape measure and they look to be about 3/8 across the flats. I took a picture, but my cell hasn't been uploading. If I can get it to upload to photobucket I'll get them posted, Joe.