I'm not unhappy with my crossbow scope, but better light transmission would have given me additional opportunities last year. Don't want a repeat this year with the 10-point who's teasing my trailcam.
The Excalibur Tact Zone is touted as an excellent illuminated scope, which is what I'm really looking for (unlighted crosshairs fade quickly at dusk). I also like the 44mm objective for max light gathering, but 3-6 variable magnification is a mystery to me. Who needs a magnified crossbow scope for <35yard shots??
What other crossbow illuminated scopes has anyone used with good dusk/low light performance?
The Excalibur Tact Zone is good scope - I have used two of them with good results.
The variable power is not for zooming on a target - it's to set the "dots" in the reticle to your bolt speed.
Instead being marked 2.5-6x on the ring - it's marked 275-300-325 etc in FPS.
Read the manual on the Excalibur website, but basically - you zero the crossbow at 20 yards on 2.5x power, then back off to 40 yards (IIRC) and shoot the same target using the 20 yard dot.
The second group of bolts will be lower on the target, you then adjust the power ring (zoom) until the 20 dot is on on the first group, and and the 40 dot is on second group.
This is now your "fixed" power setting for your current bolt weight and speed - all of the dots should now be "on" for 20-30-40 etc.
As far as clarity - the Tact Zone is good, it will let you shoot in dawn and dusk twilight - at least through legal time limits.
For Virginia - any visible antler above the hair line is a buck - I know several buddies that have had use an either sex tag on a "yearling doe" unexpectedly...not glassing, or zooming in - had a penalty.
Two complaints with the Tact Zone - the lens caps are cheap and pretty fragile, and the Excalibur factory scope rings are pretty rough in fit, finish, and sturdiness - they work, but I usually replace them.
I have an older Vortex crossbow scope - fixed 3x power - no way to adjust the reticle for the bolt speed, you have to make a "dope" card for your current set up.
The Hawke scopes are pretty popular in this area, the local bow shop sells them pretty regular as an upgrade - the few hunters I know with them are successful.
When I bought my Matrix Bulldog 380, the seller upgraded the package scope to the Twilight DLX. Heavy bugger, but works perfectly, and I like the reticle. If if ever goes South, I'll look at Hawkes, but don't know much about any other brands.
I upgraded the crappy OEM rings to Burris Signatures, though the others seemed to hold okay.
I am using a Hawke XB30....the lighting looks good. Still not sold on it though. I Like it even less now that it is made in China. I might try the Vortex Crossfire II when they become available.
Instead being marked 2.5-6x on the ring - it's marked 275-300-325 etc in FPS.
That's how the VariZone scope on my Excalibur works with the "yardage" dial. Didn't understand why the Tact Zone scope is advertised Illuminated Scope, 2.5-6x32mm, yet the photos show the yardage adjustment dial. Thanks for clearing up the marketing mumbo jumbo.
I just went thru this, I wanted a simple, illuminated dot scope out to 40 yards or so. Seems easy enough requirement, but was not an easy decision based on what's out there.
After much research, comparisons, and himming and hawing, I went with the TenPoint Pro View 3. It is illuminated dots, both red and green, and illumination can be turned down very low for near dark conditions.
Not sure if a good or bad choice yet, so far so good at target, but will find out later this year under hunting conditions how good it is. Mounted on Excaliber 340.
I have the hawke xb30. I am pleased. No reason for me to upgrade
I bought one of these.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-TenPoi...eticle-/264818431104?hash=item3da8689480It's identical to the scope that came with my Wicked Ridge Invader except it has red and green illuminated dots. Take-offs from package deals. I don't have anything to compare it to but it seems like a good scope and for $50 you won't get burned too bad if it doesn't workout for you. These are normally $200 new.
I just bought a vortex crossfire crossbow scope from wyvern.
Take a look at that one
I’ve hade the Excalibur’s scopes, ten point scopes, and hawke
Cooper, how does the brightness of Vortex compare to the Excalibur (which one did you have - Tact Zone or Twilight)? I really like my Vortex 10x36 monocular and am looking forward to another Vortex product if they're all as bright & crisp.
But that reticle is probably a deal killer. If I'm ever in a pinch to get off a quick shot, that reticle uses 40 yards as the center of site, with 20 yards being above horizon. I'll never take a 40 yard shot, and many years of hunting have trained me to start at center and move site picture down (aim above target for longer distances), not up (aim below target for shorter distances from center). Old dog I guess.
I have the hawke xb30. I am pleased. No reason for me to upgrade
They work well with a 400 FPS bow for sure.
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That 10-Point reticle has way too much going on for me. I like simple: 20 yards at center crosshair, move up from there. And if 20 yards is not center of crosshair, at least put one yardage number on one of those three horizontal lines. Many hunters have more than a single firearm, so remembering which one I'm currently looking through versus all the others does present significant risk of poor shot placement due to wrong dot being used.
I am using a Hawke XB30....the lighting looks good. Still not sold on it though. I Like it even less now that it is made in China. I might try the Vortex Crossfire II when they become available.
I've got a Vortex crossfire II. It's better than that junky Hawke 1.5-4.5 I had before. I sent that POS back. It was good enough optically alright but the fast focus turned so easy it would move and go out of focus if you brushed it against your shirt. It also wobbled around if not fully screwed in or fully extended and you could watch the crosshairs move several inches on the target when pushing it up and down or side to side. The Vortex is nice and tight and doesn't wobble at all.
I have the hawke xb30. I am pleased. No reason for me to upgrade
They work well with a 400 FPS bow for sure.
That's odd. Hawke says they're calibrated for a 330 fps bow.
I have the hawke xb30. I am pleased. No reason for me to upgrade
They work well with a 400 FPS bow for sure.
That's odd. Hawke says they're calibrated for a 330 fps bow.
Speed dial on it goes to 450 fps. I set the dial to 400, and sighted it in at 20 and it so far has been on to 40 yards. 20 bolts shot thus far. Zero wobble and adjustments work as advertised. Too bad they are made in China just like the Vortex Crossfire II.
I have the hawke xb30. I am pleased. No reason for me to upgrade
They work well with a 400 FPS bow for sure.
That's odd. Hawke says they're calibrated for a 330 fps bow.
Speed dial on it goes to 450 fps. I set the dial to 400, and sighted it in at 20 and it so far has been on to 40 yards. 20 bolts shot thus far. Zero wobble and adjustments work as advertised. Too bad they are made in China just like the Vortex Crossfire II.
That's not the xb30 that's the xb1. The same POS I had with the loose focus ring. It is a shame that they all seem to be made in China.
I just looked online at the Ravin Crossbows Illuminated Crossbow Scope - 3.5-18x50mm. What the heck is going on with crossbows? Their reticle center is set for 50 yards!
These speed freak xbow manufacturers are going crazy.
I have the hawke xb30. I am pleased. No reason for me to upgrade
They work well with a 400 FPS bow for sure.
That's odd. Hawke says they're calibrated for a 330 fps bow.
Speed dial on it goes to 450 fps. I set the dial to 400, and sighted it in at 20 and it so far has been on to 40 yards. 20 bolts shot thus far. Zero wobble and adjustments work as advertised. Too bad they are made in China just like the Vortex Crossfire II.
That's not the xb30 that's the xb1. The same POS I had with the loose focus ring. It is a shame that they all seem to be made in China.
Really, I guess like usual you don't know what the Fu-ck you are talking about. I have to put your very dumb azz back on ignore.
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I just looked online at the Ravin Crossbows Illuminated Crossbow Scope - 3.5-18x50mm. What the heck is going on with crossbows? Their reticle center is set for 50 yards!
These speed freak xbow manufacturers are going crazy.
Ravin is a very nice shooting crossbow until they show their azz, I personally don't like them . The addition of that scope is more in line of their marketing which compares them to rifles. If I had to buy another crossbow it would be another Scorpyd. No bow press needed , I can replace cables and string in a snap and the best trigger out of all crossbows I have tried.
Why does every discussion devolve into ego spats & name calling?
Elkhunter, if you want to contribute something worthwhile, pls tell us which current crossbow scopes are NOT made in China to help those of us in the market for buying a scope.
Why does every discussion devolve into ego spats & name calling?
Elkhunter, if you want to contribute something worthwhile, pls tell us which current crossbow scopes are NOT made in China to help those of us in the market for buying a scope.
What have you contributed? Did you read any of my posts, where I said all crossbow scopes are made in CHINA? Did Rick Bin make you a moderator?
That's not the xb30 that's the xb1. The same POS I had with the loose focus ring. It is a shame that they all seem to be made in China.
I have the hawke xb30. I am pleased. No reason for me to upgrade
They work well with a 400 FPS bow for sure.
That's odd. Hawke says they're calibrated for a 330 fps bow.
Speed dial on it goes to 450 fps. I set the dial to 400, and sighted it in at 20 and it so far has been on to 40 yards. 20 bolts shot thus far. Zero wobble and adjustments work as advertised. Too bad they are made in China just like the Vortex Crossfire II.
That's not the xb30 that's the xb1. The same POS I had with the loose focus ring. It is a shame that they all seem to be made in China.
Really, I guess like usual you don't know what the Fu-ck you are talking about. I have to put your very dumb azz back on ignore.
I confused the model #'s in this instance and that is all. Hawke does market a fixed 3x crossbow scope calibrated to 330 fps and that is the one I thought you were talking about. So sue me ass hole.
Speed dial on it goes to 450 fps. I set the dial to 400, and sighted it in at 20 and it so far has been on to 40 yards. 20 bolts shot thus far. Zero wobble and adjustments work as advertised. Too bad they are made in China just like the Vortex Crossfire II.
See what I bolded ? Is there a speed dial on the 3x scope? Let me answer that for you ....Duh No.
Speed dial on it goes to 450 fps. I set the dial to 400, and sighted it in at 20 and it so far has been on to 40 yards. 20 bolts shot thus far. Zero wobble and adjustments work as advertised. Too bad they are made in China just like the Vortex Crossfire II.
See what I bolded ? Is there a speed dial on the 3x scope? Let me answer that for you ....Duh No.
I wasn't contesting that. I thought you had the model number of the scopes mixed up. You're still an ass hole.
What have you contributed? Did you read any of my posts, where I said all crossbow scopes are made in CHINA?
Having asked the original question and trying to learn about crossbow scopes through others' ownership (my own experience being limited to the one scope I own) limits my ability to contribute in that sense.
Yes, I've read your posts above and the only two crossbow scopes which you called out being made in China are Hawke XB30 and Vortex Crossfire II. That's a bit different from "where I said all crossbow scopes are made in CHINA". Two is not quite "all". There are other threads (unsure whether this forum or others) where contributors identified scopes are also made in Taiwan and Korea.
So, to avoid China confusion, perhaps the more "geographically correct" way of asking question is - do you know of any crossbow scopes not made in the pacific rim region?
My preference is to avoid lower quality China products, but it's nearly impossible to find country of origin for any products in most websites. Most manufacturers roll the dice of lower quality with a robust warranty and say "if you don't like it, we'll exchange it".
I didn't find any that weren't made in China and I looked at a bunch from Hawke, TruGlo, Vortex, Sight Mark, Ten Point, Bear and a couple others I forget now. I ended up going with the Vortex because I figured if I was going to get Chinese junk regardless, I might as well buy one with the best guarantee in the business and Vortex's VIP is the best.
Then you’re looking at the Leapold Crossbones - discontinued, or the Zeiss x-bow scope ( I’ll have to google the model) - both are quite a bit more in cost.
But - I believe Zeisd Terra is Asia in origin as well.
What have you contributed? Did you read any of my posts, where I said all crossbow scopes are made in CHINA?
Having asked the original question and trying to learn about crossbow scopes through others' ownership (my own experience being limited to the one scope I own) limits my ability to contribute in that sense.
Yes, I've read your posts above and the only two crossbow scopes which you called out being made in China are Hawke XB30 and Vortex Crossfire II. That's a bit different from "where I said all crossbow scopes are made in CHINA". Two is not quite "all". There are other threads (unsure whether this forum or others) where contributors identified scopes are also made in Taiwan and Korea.
So, to avoid China confusion, perhaps the more "geographically correct" way of asking question is - do you know of any crossbow scopes not made in the pacific rim region?
My preference is to avoid lower quality China products, but it's nearly impossible to find country of origin for any products in most websites. Most manufacturers roll the dice of lower quality with a robust warranty and say "if you don't like it, we'll exchange it".
No I do not know of any non China crossbow scopes. I like the Sig scope and rangefinder combo, unsure where that is made. If one were looking for a non busy reticle that might be the ticket.
ok here is a Japanese made scope and rangefinder
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I didn't find any that weren't made in China and I looked at a bunch from Hawke, TruGlo, Vortex, Sight Mark, Ten Point, Bear and a couple others I forget now.
Seems like we should stop talking about country of origin any further, because...
But - I believe Zeiss Terra is Asia in origin as well.
...when germans optics companies outsource to China, the world has lost its compass.
ok here is a Japanese made scope and rangefinder
linkHAH! At 20 yards, those deer don't stand a chance!
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ok here is a Japanese made scope and rangefinder
linkHAH! At 20 yards, those deer don't stand a chance!
Wyvern has these for 499. I'm not shooting past 40 yards although my bow can easily do it but I am seriously deciding on this.
The perfect setup would be finding QD mounts on an adjustable baseplate with the same re-connect point on bow, rifle, etc. Then you'd have perfect portability between firearms with a single setup. A single $500 outlay (plus a couple adjustable QD bases) and you're set forever!
I have heard mixed reviews on rifles . I would keep it dedicated to archery. I was thinking of buying another backup bow and I could switch them out with QR rings.