Has he shot broadheads with it yet and do they shoot to the same or close to the same POI? I am looking at a Ravin for next year as my Barnett does not shoot mechanical broadheads anywhere close to the same POI as it does field points.
Once sighted in he was practicing at 30 yards and first shot was in the bull, second shot split the bolt in six pieces.
I got a two Rav R29 that I got from Gander Outdoors for a buy one get one free store close out in williamsport PA, plus they gave me a additional 15% off for being a member, both R29 cost me $1979.00 out the door. The one that I been shooting is highly accurate, so much that you don't shoot at the same bull without removing the first bolt
Has he shot broadheads with it yet and do they shoot to the same or close to the same POI? I am looking at a Ravin for next year as my Barnett does not shoot mechanical broadheads anywhere close to the same POI as it does field points.
That's because most likely your cams are out of synch. Ravin has great marketing. The design is too complicated, strings and cables have to be serviced by a dealer unless you buy an expensive bow press. You will have to replace strings and cables more frequently.
Has he shot broadheads with it yet and do they shoot to the same or close to the same POI? I am looking at a Ravin for next year as my Barnett does not shoot mechanical broadheads anywhere close to the same POI as it does field points.
That's because most likely your cams are out of synch. Ravin has great marketing. The design is too complicated, strings and cables have to be serviced by a dealer unless you buy an expensive bow press. You will have to replace strings and cables more frequently.
Has he shot broadheads with it yet and do they shoot to the same or close to the same POI? I am looking at a Ravin for next year as my Barnett does not shoot mechanical broadheads anywhere close to the same POI as it does field points.
That's because most likely your cams are out of synch. Ravin has great marketing. The design is too complicated, strings and cables have to be serviced by a dealer unless you buy an expensive bow press. You will have to replace strings and cables more frequently.
I wil ask him today about the broad heads and report back. They certainly are complicated as others have said. I’m sure the Ten Point and others are equally accurate. My old Parker CHallenger has killed deer and good enough for me!
Nothing wrong with a Ravin. Very accurate. I know a few who have them and love them.
I have been using this old Barnett Whitetail Hunter. Killed a few deer and plenty accurate for my needs. This doe was harvested at 50 yards. That is about as far I like to shoot anyway. Using fixed blades.
I shot my R29 across chronograph at 10 yard increments out to 100 yards I was averaging 411 fps and could consistently hit the 2" dot at every distance and most of the time the groups were a lot smaller. I would not leave an arrow in the bag under 60 yards as they were getting smashed.
I can say pretty much the same things about my Excalibur. Put it together, mounted the scope, and was on the paper at 20 yards. Click click, and it was all set. A little twiddling of the speed dial (aka power ring) and it was on the money at 30, 40, and 50. This year I tried a shot at 60 and made a killing hit on the target, just before the scope died. Went to a red dot, then a refurbished Nikon fixed power. Have that one figured out to 40 so far, a good practical range under the conditions I hunt. Will fiddle with it a bit more to get to maybe 50, but the fixed power is a bit limited compared to a variable. Muzzys hit the same as field points. BTW, for ease of arrow removal from the target, spray the shaft with food-grade silicon. I also switched to field points with a slight bulge in the middle, which are a lot easier to pull out.
Went with the recurve for simplicity and easy maintenance. Can change a string in a few minutes, decock in seconds. Keep checking the screws and bolts, but nothing has come loose so far. This is the third season, and I have bagged five deer; three does and two scraggly bucks. Two were killed from a treestand, one from a ground seat, and two, including the one I whacked Monday, were shot on my way in or out of the woods, targets of opportunity.
No doubt the compounds are amazing performers, but can’t see how I could do any better than I have with the old-school job. It’s all good.
My dad took a nice 6x6 elk with his new Ravin this fall. Loves it compared to the other crossbow he had. Last one, the limbs blew up on him.
Don't know what brand his other bow was but RAVINS have limb and string issues . A lot of high performance. bows have that. My brothers Tenpoint bow destroyed cables and cams after 30 shots. .
My dad took a nice 6x6 elk with his new Ravin this fall. Loves it compared to the other crossbow he had. Last one, the limbs blew up on him.
Don't know what brand his other bow was but RAVINS have limb and string issues . A lot of high performance. bows have that. My brothers Tenpoint bow destroyed cables and cams after 30 shots. .
Nothing wrong with a Ravin. Very accurate. I know a few who have them and love them.
I have been using this old Barnett Whitetail Hunter. Killed a few deer and plenty accurate for my needs. This doe was harvested at 50 yards. That is about as far I like to shoot anyway. Using fixed blades.
I am also looking at the 2020 CenterPoint CP400 crossbow since it's half the cost of the Ravin but provides a lot of performance for the money. I want a crossbow that is fast, on the lighter side and when cocked has a slim profile since I hunt in an area this pretty tight.
I am also looking at the 2020 CenterPoint CP400 crossbow since it's half the cost of the Ravin but provides a lot of performance for the money. I want a crossbow that is fast, on the lighter side and when cocked has a slim profile since I hunt in an area this pretty tight.
Do not know much about them, I have not heard any bad things about them either. We have just a few archery dealers in this area and since Covid some have gone out of business , everything has to be ordered . It is getting to be quite expensive buying stuff to find out if it is good or bad. I purchased my first Scorpyd DS in June, 60 yards is a chip shot(I will not shoot that far though) and people I know that have them shoot 100 rather easily with Broadheads. Super quiet and low maintenance . I visited a Dealer in Florida a month ago who handles about ever type of bow and that was also his recommendation. I now own 2 of them , one is a backup just like my hunting rifles I always bring a backup. Mine weighs 6.2 lbs bare.
I got a Ravin R20 this fall. Practiced out to 70 yards and held a fist size or smaller group at 60 yards. I shot a nice buck and a doe with the R20, both at 20 yards...
I got a Ravin R20 this fall. Practiced out to 70 yards and held a fist size or smaller group at 60 yards. I shot a nice buck and a doe with the R20, both at 20 yards...
I don't shoot groups with my Scorpyd , My arrows cost 240 bucks a dozen and I intend to keep them intact.
I made this video 2 summers ago when I was a vendor at this bowhunting show/shoot. I did so to shot how easy and little skill is required to be a marksman with a bolt slinger. This is not the tool of a bowhunter. Those that use a crossbow are not bowhunters. They are crossbow hunters .(very different)
Bowhunting is not for everybody. Not everybody can or wants to rise to the challenges of bowhunting so its good that crossbows exist for that sort want to bring as little of themselves to the task as possible. Some cant get it done with a bow and arrow and need the ease and advantage of a shoulder discharged bolt slinger that can be shot from a rest to find success. This is the weapon for that sort. As for me, I will stick with bowhunting. I have zero interest in being a crosser.
Some of these crossers might eventually go on to becoming bowhunters after testing the waters with a crossbow first. I get my most satisfaction from taking deer and bear with my homemade longbow and my homemade arrows and my homemade broadheads I made from old saw blades.
I'm envious of those that have deer that stand still. 50 yards. Deer would be gone before the arrow gets there. Especially with the noise most crossbows make. They can't help the noise though.
And regardless if you are shooting 250 fps or 400 plus, speed of sound is still about 1050.
Grouping size, yep that helps. But a good compound we could hit coke can size targets at 100 in the late 70s.
Mechanical heads. Nope just doesn't make sense. One more thing to go wrong.
Of course we are all free to do what we want, but whatever gear I'm shooting, its 20 yards and less, actually its 17 and less for me, I've had weird things happen at 18 plus.
Its bowhunting so I just deal with being close or not shooting.
I have a Ravin R-26 and am absolutely delighted with it. I have a severely messed up right shoulder that was replaced last year. No way that I could shoot a conventional bow any more. The R-26 is smaller in dimension than the R-29, but still produces 400 fps with a 400 gr. bolt. It weighs 6 1/2 pounds and is very handy in a confined space such as a blind. Cocking is easy and fast, and the crank handle can be used to easily decock the bow. I was warned by the dealer to avoid shooting two bolts at the same bullseye.
Ravins are expensive, that's for sure, but they do come fully equipped, and mine even had a very nice case. The only thing extra I needed were a few hunting arrows with broadheads. I chose the Rage 100 gr. 2-bladed head on the dealer's advice. My experience is that they shoot to the same POA as the target arrows. I killed a deer with it and performance was excellent.
The high quality scope that comes standard has a choice of green or red illumination, is adjustable for arrow velocity and has aiming points every 10 yards from 20-100. They have been right on the money so far for me.
I sighted it in at 20 yards and backed off to 50, just for giggles. Here are the first two bolts I fired at 50:
So there is no need to question whether it is accurate enough.
I have a Ravin R-26 and am absolutely delighted with it. I have a severely messed up right shoulder that was replaced last year. No way that I could shoot a conventional bow any more. The R-26 is smaller in dimension than the R-29, but still produces 400 fps with a 400 gr. bolt. It weighs 6 1/2 pounds and is very handy in a confined space such as a blind. Cocking is easy and fast, and the crank handle can be used to easily decock the bow. I was warned by the dealer to avoid shooting two bolts at the same bullseye.
Ravins are expensive, that's for sure, but they do come fully equipped, and mine even had a very nice case. The only thing extra I needed were a few hunting arrows with broadheads. I chose the Rage 100 gr. 2-bladed head on the dealer's advice. My experience is that they shoot to the same POA as the target arrows. I killed a deer with it and performance was excellent.
The high quality scope that comes standard has a choice of green or red illumination, is adjustable for arrow velocity and has aiming points every 10 yards from 20-100. They have been right on the money so far for me.
I sighted it in at 20 yards and backed off to 50, just for giggles. Here are the first two bolts I fired at 50:
So there is no need to question whether it is accurate enough.
Ok. Any decent well tuned crossbow with good arrows should do that.
I'm envious of those that have deer that stand still. 50 yards. Deer would be gone before the arrow gets there. Especially with the noise most crossbows make. They can't help the noise though.
And regardless if you are shooting 250 fps or 400 plus, speed of sound is still about 1050.
Grouping size, yep that helps. But a good compound we could hit coke can size targets at 100 in the late 70s.
Mechanical heads. Nope just doesn't make sense. One more thing to go wrong.
Of course we are all free to do what we want, but whatever gear I'm shooting, its 20 yards and less, actually its 17 and less for me, I've had weird things happen at 18 plus.
Its bowhunting so I just deal with being close or not shooting.
Total agreement, it is a close range deal. I used to shoot an 85 LB Hoyt with a release and then messed up my elbow. I hit stuff at 60 and 80 yards with no problem.
I made this video 2 summers ago when I was a vendor at this bowhunting show/shoot. I did so to shot how easy and little skill is required to be a marksman with a bolt slinger. This is not the tool of a bowhunter. Those that use a crossbow are not bowhunters. They are crossbow hunters .(very different)
Bowhunting is not for everybody. Not everybody can or wants to rise to the challenges of bowhunting so its good that crossbows exist for that sort want to bring as little of themselves to the task as possible. Some cant get it done with a bow and arrow and need the ease and advantage of a shoulder discharged bolt slinger that can be shot from a rest to find success. This is the weapon for that sort. As for me, I will stick with bowhunting. I have zero interest in being a crosser.
Some of these crossers might eventually go on to becoming bowhunters after testing the waters with a crossbow first. I get my most satisfaction from taking deer and bear with my homemade longbow and my homemade arrows and my homemade broadheads I made from old saw blades.
If you're just trying to be a d@#k you did a pretty good job! Shooting off sandbags has nothing to do with crossbow hunting accuracy. Resting your elbows on your knees IME is about as steady as it gets. In a groundblind you can do that but it's not always possible in a treestand. When I hunted with a compound and a release I felt comfortable shooting out to 40 yards but most of my shots were 15-25 yards. Now that I use a crossbow I feel I could shoot 50 yards if I had to but all the deer I've taken in CT have been between 20-35 yards. IMO it's still about getting close and making a good shot. I agree a crossbow is a easier to make a good shot with and it allows people that aren't physically able to shoot a bow accurately or those that don't have the desire to practice enough to shoot a bow accurately to harvest deer during archery season.
Well the RAVIN did well. He shot a doe and then a 7 point 220 pound dressed buck. Upon closer examination the buck had been gored in the shoulder and when they gutted and subsequently butchered he had a good size puss ball. He was a bruiser so we assume a younger one was trying to become king or another larger deer is in the area. Shot through the heart and collapsed in 20 yards.
Yeah, the RAVIN’S are pretty expensive if one opts for the R 26 or 29, others are over $1,000. I will buy something next year, not sure what and head out the last week of October and first 15 days of November. Saw a doe and 2 yearlings this morning. We have seen them a total of 4 times on the same path, no buck.] We put up a Spartan WiFi camera that I bought at the Harrisburg show and used a SPY HIGH mounting system, pretty cool. Where he shot the bruiser, there was two spikes and a Six pointer with 4 on one side. This is a 15 acres parcel next to the cemetery and 800’ from a main road. I was pretty surprised.
Im not a crossbow fan. My kid is disabled and is showing interest in hunting. Has shot rifles and handguns before decline in ability. Port on right side, right handed.....she has to go lefty now.
Am looking at rhe lower end Ravin or a Mission.
My body is falling apart, and its getting tougher every yr. Proly have to shelf my Blackwidow recurve eventually.
Do what ya have to do, or do whaever the hell ya wanna do. Bow or xbow...
Don' t care outside of proper terminology. IMHO a crossbow hunter is a crossbow hunter. A bowhunter is a bowhunter. Either is fine but there is a difference.
I dont wear a toupee or dye my fuggin hair. If I have to go xbow, then id be an xbowhunter.....and an ex bowhunter.
Big whoop.
Notsosharp will have a stroke soon and be relegated to gun or xbow. If hes lucky.
The R26 was just too short for me. Could shoot it well but not comfortable. Went with the R29 as it is 3 inches longer. Price hurt but cry once and get it over with.
R29 50 yard quartering to me shot complete pass thru the shoulder hit the hart and exited last rib I watched the arrow with the lighted nock hit the ground behind her and ricochete like a tracer round thru the woods
i wish Montana would allow old and handi-cap bowhunters to hunt in the archery season with a X-bow seems like the recurve bowhunters are selfish and continue to fight against allowing old and or handi-cap hunters a right they deserve to hunt the archery season with a x-bow. i have a friend with a shoulder that was injured by a mortar in Viet Nam who lives in Montana and he can`t use a x-bow either in his home state ,but its ok for America to daft him ,send him to war ,let him get crippled for life in the Viet Nam war,comes home crippled and can`t no longer hunt the archery season in Montana because he no longer can draw and shoot a bow. that is shameful and very selfish of some of these bowhunters but someday some of these same bowhunters against x-bows will be old and or crippled and wait they will be the biggest whiners to want x-bows legal in Montana during the archery season. >> so its ok for a crippled war soldier loses his right to bow hunt in Montana because he needs to use a x-bow that is Shameful and B.S. !
Quit bitching about Montana. Worry about MN. Have you ever heard someone from MT make a comment on MN game laws? We would prefer you and others stay home come hunting season anyways. Believe it or not we all aren’t in line to suck your Dick for money like the out of state hunters want to believe. I own a business and could care of less if I get money from out of staters come hunting season. My margins aren’t so tight that it makes a damn bit of difference. Met some great guys hunting from out of state but in general it’s not a good look.
As far as crossbows I am happy they are outlawed. They allow too much of an advantage. Elk often hang up at 70 yards when calling them in which is a no shot with bow. Elk lives to play the game again. With crossbow that shot is taken. Too many people would abuse it even if it were for cripples. Look at the brand new lifted trucks with cripples placard hanging off the mirrors. Sorry about your friends disability but life ain’t fair and you sound like a liberal trying to make accommodations for every situation. Some people are too poor to hunt. Should we come there tags and license fees and fill their gas tank so they can go hunting as well?
Quit bitching about Montana. Worry about MN. Have you ever heard someone from MT make a comment on MN game laws? We would prefer you and others stay home come hunting season anyways. Believe it or not we all aren’t in line to suck your Dick for money like the out of state hunters want to believe. I own a business and could care of less if I get money from out of staters come hunting season. My margins aren’t so tight that it makes a damn bit of difference. Met some great guys hunting from out of state but in general it’s not a good look.
As far as crossbows I am happy they are outlawed. They allow too much of an advantage. Elk often hang up at 70 yards when calling them in which is a no shot with bow. Elk lives to play the game again. With crossbow that shot is taken. Too many people would abuse it even if it were for cripples. Look at the brand new lifted trucks with cripples placard hanging off the mirrors. Sorry about your friends disability but life ain’t fair and you sound like a liberal trying to make accommodations for every situation. Some people are too poor to hunt. Should we come there tags and license fees and fill their gas tank so they can go hunting as well?
listen to yourself selfish and you must still be kinda fit and younger but with very little heart for these crippled soldiers. oh i will be back in Montana buying the expensive non-resident Montana license just remember this without us non-resident AMERICAN`S buying hunting -fishing license and all the Federal Land Montana Game Fish would not be doing very good. another friend from Minnesota is the diver /welder at all the Federal dams including in Montana and he also was wounded in Irag as a Ranger but would not a agree with what you posted . best you stay out of all VFW `s , Legions, bars with real man with your shameful negative attitude towards non-residents and soldiers.
Not negative towards veterans at all. Just don’t think crossbows should be considered archery equipment and I am sick of out of staters thinking they need to weigh in on our game laws. Our taxes pay for far more stuff then license sales.
Not negative towards veterans at all. Just don’t think crossbows should be considered archery equipment and I am sick of out of staters thinking they need to weigh in on our game laws. Our taxes pay for far more stuff then license sales.
B.S without non-resident license purchased Montana Game ,Fish and Parks would be a disaster your wrong very wrong ! ask Helena Head Quarters your so wrong its almost funny. many Montana residents have no problem with non-residents we are all Americans . you need to be more positive and less selfish in life, you don`t own Montana or public land it belongs to all American`s !
I can visit MN and go fishing but don’t get to vote in their elections or daily bag limits. As you can hunt MT but don’t get to vote on our game laws. Same/same. MT FWP might count on your revenue from out of state licensing but us as residents do not. I would love less wolf loving biologists and tree and stream studies. Cut their budget other than LEO. Because I disagree with you, you can’t see past that. I don’t hate all non residents. If I did I wouldn’t live in this area cause it’s full of them. I dislike non residents that think they need input in OUR state business.
in another 5 years you will have many more rich liberals from out of state that will become Montana state residents, these liberals will be buying more land changing more game laws in Montana enjoy them with your shameful thinking . also from what i see with input the ranchers of Montana make the decision for your Montana wildlife and kill plenty elk while those cows are destroying mountain streams and vegetation all year long on Federal land so it looks like you need some advice or input from non-residents. don`t forget the Montana budget for wildlife the non-residents spend and pay a lot more money for the wildlife welfare in Montana too. when i have been out in Montana most hunters and residents make us non-residents feel welcome and i have always got along fine with them , i seem to think you yourself have a problem try to be a little more positive and much less selfish this is America the land of the free nobody owns all of Montana or any other state, if your a hunter you should be glad people hunt and stick together what`s the difference what hunting tool you use to kill a deer or an elk with your own tag ?
Never owned a high end xbow. Have a old Barnett 440 or something like that. Paid 300 for it and some bolts . Use the rags 125’s just for that added little umph. Have killed deer as far as fifty yds with no problems. Also have a Parker Tornado, same broad heads. They both have made complete pass through everytime even with quartering shots . One went through upper shoulder exited in rear ribs and broke back leg . Made a believer out of me . Consider 50 yds my limit , can consistently do vital shots off handed at the range . 60 + I start getting occasional bolt outside of vitals . So for mine and deers sake , limit myself to 50 yds . Most of my stands are hard pressed for a fifty yd shot . Many I have shot were 10-20 yds . Kenneth
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