With my 32" draw length, I decided I wanted to have another ILF riser, but longer than my 17" Discovery.

I decided on a 21" Satori, one of the main reasons being the nice sideplate setup for shooting off the shelf.

I set it up with Samick R3 45# Long limbs that I already had, making a 66" AMO length. Also used the issue shelf rug, and sideplate with calf hair cover. It has some heft to it, but I like the way it feels and shoots.

Some 20 yard practice. Arrow is 32" GT Warrior shaft, 400 spine with 100gr insert, and 145gr point.





Anyhoo, just wanted to share. Shane

Looks like you now have a 3d rig

Yeah, seems like a good bow for that.

For high volume shooting, I'll probably drop down to 35# limbs, 500 or 600 spine, and lose some point weight. I will need 32" shafts though, so probably Black Eagle Vintage.

Nice looking bow.

Looks like a sweet setup, MM.

Thanks guys.

I put the Samick R3 30# limbs on today, and did some bare shaft testing. The full length 32" 400 spine warrior with 275gr up front flies well.

The 30# limbs are rated on a 17" riser, so I'm guessing on the 21" riser they are more like 26 lbs at 28", and probably around 35# at my draw length.

Shooting groups of six arrows at 20 yards, I seem to typically put 3 or 4 in a nice little cluster, and 2 or 3 out of group. I know I'm the limiting factor, but the bow itself seems fairly forgiving compared to the feather light Slick Stick.

Before my shoulders started giving me troubles I had a Satori. Really liked it. Nice solid, smooth shooting bow. I had a couple sets of Tradtech limbs on mine. I think they were 35 and 40# sets. Much better setup than the prior Buffalo with that stupid formula limb setup. My favorite Hoyt was probably the Dorado. That bow just shot for me. Bottom photo with a rare "No 3's" NFAA round. Shot lots of 270+ rounds with that rig. Fun stuff.

That's some nice shooting.

That old target can be a very humbling piece of paper. I went through a bunch of them figuring out how to shoot and be consistent. As you can see, I made my own and printed them off on a copy machine - same dimensions as the official NFAA target.

Yep, paper is brutally honest.....grin

Managed to put together a accurate and fairly tight group (for me), at 19 yards. Playing around with some 2-fletch arrows.

Yesterday it was breezy, but I was running some comparisons between 4-fletch, 2-fletch, and bare shaft. The wind wasn't helping my cause, but they all seemed to fly about the same. Arrow is well tuned to the bow, per the bare shaft, and the 2-fletch are quieter than 4.

At the end of the day, everybody using 3-fletch must be on to something.....grin. It's all part of the journey.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vJNqD8NVpU&t=33s

It really doesn't take a lot of fletching to guide the arrow if the arrow is spined pretty close. I shot 3) 3" feathers a lot with my lighter bows. When I would switch to the hunting rig I would shoot 3) 4" Feathers and never had any issues. Only time I experimented with 2 fletch was when I shot one of the 3 off......lol. Interestingly they would shoot right with the group of fully fletched arrows.

MM, would you hunt with the 45# limbs?

They would be legal in MT. We have a 40# minimum requirement.

When I chrono'd the 45# limbs in the 17" Samick Discovery, I reached 189 fps with a 576gr arrow. The longer 21" Satori will most likely lose some speed with the same limbs (haven't chrono'd it yet).

I would imagine, the Satori with the 45# limbs will still get well over 175 fps with the same 576gr arrow. Mechanically, I would call that enough weight/speed to kill effectively.

Keep in mind my draw length is 32". Also keep in mind I haven't killed anything with a bow since I was a boy killing a few very unlucky ground squirrels back in the 1970s. A GS with a target arrow through him doesn't die well, but he can't get dow his hole either.....so one can use his boot heel for the finisher.....grin

Same draw length here. Looking at retiring in a couple years, I'll have a whole lot more time to bowhunt, down here the season is basically September. Which is my favorite time to be in the mtns.

I didn't bowhunt as a kid, didn't start until about 8-9 years ago. My first bow kill was a bull elk, it'd be nice to get another.

I didn't really bowhunt as a kid either. We had a neighbor who was older, and he gave me and my brother each a fiberglass bow and a few arrows. They were probably in the 15# -20# range.

We had zero instruction with them, from anyone. So we did some discovery learning.

After a few months, we both had a stupid attack at the same time....not uncommon for boys aged roughly 9 and 12 ( I was the older, responsible one.....grin). Naturally in those days we were left alone at home in the summer, on a rural acreage outside of Colville WA.

So anyways, back to the story, we started running around the outside of the house, shooting arrows at each other when onw would show himself, then ducking back and laughing uncontrollably. it was all great fun until I took an arrow just above my right eye...just barely hit that bone above the eye. I fell down and grabbed my face, the arrow didn't stick, but I was bleeding all over the place. Long story short, called dad, he rushed home and took me to the ER. Just needed some cleaning and a couple butterflys.

Oh boy, was dad ever pissed. The fiberglass bows were destroyed. That was around 1973. I didn't pick up another bow until about two years ago.

LOL, close call there. How did we ever survive, these days your bro would've probably been handcuffed and hauled off. We did the same thing with bb guns. We were smart enough to use our coke bottle safety glasses from wood shop though.

Yep, we were allowed to make mistakes back then. Hopefully we made it through.....grin

Back in those days mom and dad both worked at the hospital in Colville, Dad ran the boiler room, mom was an x-ray tech.

So mom saw the results of bad decisions on the x-ray table quite often. They didn't get over their mad, for a good while.

Our DL turns 45# limbs into 55# limbs. Also the longer power stroke on the launch.

Thanks, that's good to know. So my 60 lb bow is more like a 70-lb bow then.

That sounds about right.

My shoulder hurts just thinking about that.....grin