Any input on one vs. the other? I would like to try these bullets in a couple rifles. They seem similar, but from the books it looks like the Noslers might be longer for a given weight. Input good or bad?

Thanks.

You nailed it...the Accubond is a little longer designed to penetrate a tad more. Search the threads in the ATG forums...there's been plenty of discussions about them.

I`m really liking the Accubonds. I have bought some few Interbonds to shoot, but I`m a Nosler guy to the bone. I have shot 5 animals, 4 antelope and 1 deer and no recoveries yet. 4 with 7mm 140 and 1 with 270, 140.

Tim ... if the interbonds are the 139g 7mm flavor, I'll be glad to take them off your hands ... I have been meaning to try them in my 7mm-08 ...

I just switched this past summer to 139gr Interbonds for my 7mm-08. I had used standard SPs without failure but I had the itch for something different. The IB took out a fair sized buck with a high shoulder shot and had a nickel sized exit hole. Bullet hit the tops of both front shoulders. No blood trail as it was a bang flop. I've used the Nosler Partition a lot but never an AB. Nothing against them, just found the IB first.

RH

Whats not to like about the Accubond. They shoot great, they are easy to load for, and there isnt much meat damage even when striking heavy bone at close range. I drive the 140 7mm pretty dang hard (3200+ from a 280AI) and i wouldnt dream of switching bullets. Have also found out this year they leave one heck of a blood trail. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I think all we'll find out here is who is Hornady fans and who is Nosler fan's. The argument for "a bit more penetration" of one over the other seem's useless when the vast majority of the time those second class citizen's, the cup and core, pass thru! Exactly how much more penetration is needed?

So, I'm a Hornady fan, Inter-Locks forever!

I am just a big fan of plastic tipped bullets, and the bonded ones seem like the best of both worlds. I was just making sure there is no accuracy issues with them. Ballistic tips are very accurate in all my guns, more so than standard lead tipped cup and cores.

i love accubonds! i have shot chit from 20 feet to 280 yards with a 270 wsm, 7RUM and 270 and all had the same thing going... great penetration and nickel-quarter size exit! even the 20 foot shot, bullet entered in the back ( i was behing a sitting mountatin lion) broke the spine and shoulder and came out the center of the chest and it was a nickel size exit. have shot 3 coues deer all hitting major bone and still passing thorugh it a small controlled exit hole... o yeah, did i say they shoot under 1/2 inch in all guns with the best being .184?

You mean like this would cause......


Exit wound......300WSM, 150AB, 3170MV, 130yards

Obviously it didn't go far ! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

Check out the 2006 Accubond thread under Elk hunting for a bunch of pics of game taken with various Accubonds.

I am sold on them.

Tony

The Interbond is a great bullet. I shot a doe at 40yds looking straight at me with a 300 WSM using a 150gr IB @ 3,336 fps. I placed the bullet in between her white patch and her brisket and it liked about 2" from coming out of her rear end. When I dressed her I could not figure out why she had the runs but later found the bullet perfectly mushroomed and retaining 119.2 grains, with a frontal diameter of .710, the bullet nearly went all the way through her body and had another 1/4" of bullet to go before reaching the base. I also shot a 240# bear using a 150gr IB in my 30/06 from about 15 feet. The bullet went through the top of its head, out its throat and then went through the left forearm resting just under the skin and the bullet mushroomed to .936 and retained 116.7gr. These are the only two bullets I have ever retrieved, the rest were complete pass throughs. Everything I have shot with these IB's have been bang flops. Pretty awesome I would say. I think the Accubonds would work great also but IB's are cheaper.

Here are pics of the two bullets the one on the left came out of the deer and the other came out of the bear. Sorry it's so blurry.

Thanks for the reponses, so no accuracy issues so far from anyone?

Some people have not gotten the IB's to shoot in their rifles. I have two 300 WSM's one loves the 150gr IB's and the other didn't. I am currently trying a 130gr IB in a 270 WSM and it looks promising so far. If your gun doesn't like the IB I would try the Accubond or vice versa.

Had a hell of a time getting the 7mm 154 IB to shoot.Played with seating depths forever before finding a acceptable load.

Accuracy with the Accubonds has been stellar accross the board.........the Interbonds; excellent with my 270WSM (130) terrible with my sons 270win (130).

Also had so-so results with 139 7mm, excellent in a 7SHAMU, terrible in a 7mag.

Seems to be the trend, for me anyway.

In my experience, it appears that the Accubonds are easier to make shoot overall, in various rifles.

The Interbonds seem to have a love-hate relationship going on with different rifles. 2 rifles I have shoot them very well, two other rifles I shot them in didn't shoot them worth a crap.

YMMV............

Tony

I had no problem getting the IB's to shoot accurately and well in my .30-06 ... In fact, they were the most accurate bullet I loaded up, but I have to admit to not trying the Accubonds in that rifle ... they might have shot better, who knows? But all in all, the IB's shot well more than accurately enough for me in the '06, and they are more than plenty tough enough for deer sized game, even when drilling thru both shoulders, or trying to run a bullet thru the length of the body ...

so, my suggestion to anyone considering one or the other, is to start with the IB's because they are less expensive, while being a very close design to the Accubond ... Only if you can't get them to shoot, or for some reason you really need that little bit of difference in performance between the two, would I suggest switching over to the Accubonds ...

I'm using the partition now but bang for buck the Horny's at a 100 a box is pretty good.

I'm a team Hornady member anyone else?

I'm a member!

TSXs rule <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I haven't taken any game yet with either. Just started loading them this year. I have 2 .280s...one sprays Interbonds all over the place, one puts them in little cloverleafs. The one that doesn't like Interbonds likes Accubonds ok, and loves Hornady Interlocks. My 7mmRM loves 160 Accubonds. Bottom line, as always, it depends on the gun.

Before I read all the responses this was the only thing I was going to comment on.

In my experience it has been a hell of alot easier getting the AB;s to shoot than the IB's. And I am a hornady fan also!

I bet I have those. I`ll look and see. The rest will eventually end up in the classifieds. The Accubonds now are offered in about all the weights I use most.

Me too! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Hey Pop kinda wondering were you've been?

And that makes 3.The sticker looks right at home on my fourwheeler.Badge will be going on my hunting coat.

I shoot the 165 IB's in a '06 and accuracy was excellent. They put an azz whoopin on several hogs. But.... I had to change lot #s and accuracy turned to crap. I have never got around to weighing the current lot. For now they are mothballed while I try the super-duper, kills everything even if you just come close to your target TSX's. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> When time allows I will check back with this lot of IB's and see if I can figure out what the problem is.

Best to ya .. BP...

Been here and noslerreloading.com

do not really go anywhere else that much

I have shot 2 deer with 150 interbonds out of a 308 win and found a bullet that retained 115gr and was expanded in a classis mushroom and caused instant death.
The accubonds have killed 4 and I havent recovered any. The accubond wont expand as much as the interbond will, it will shed some of that front weight so that it can get deeper penetration kind of like this:

150gr AB out of a 308 win loaded to 2840

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this was an easy "accubond-induced" blood trail






I have shot them from 15 yards to 236 yards this year and had excellent blood and always 2 holes, no recovered bullets. That being said, I have not shot any through the shoulders.....

Whats not to love............... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Now THATS what I am talking about boys !!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Nothing like the Accubond Blood Trail (ABT) tecno term........!

What is interesting is that your exit at 308Win velocity looks the same as mine out of a 300WSM....probably a 300FPS difference in impact velocity.


Nice.

Tony

I think it is obvious from this thread that performance on game is very similar. And their is actually very little difference in cost now. I personally have had better success getting Accubonds to shoot accurately in my 3 guns that I have compared (308, 7-08, and 7wsm). I would use these bullets on anything I will ever hunt (deer, elk, moose, etc.). They expand, they penetrate, they retain about 70% of their weight, and they give some pretty impressive bang flop kills if that is what you like. They flat out get the job done.

what are you loading your 308win accubond loads with: weight, powder, primer, brass?

yeah mine are around 2840 fps at the muzzle out of a 24" 1 in 12" Kreiger

I'm loading 150 gr Accubonds, 48.0 gr RL-15 (1 gr below Speer's max for 150 gr BTSP), WLR primers, R-P brass, and getting <1" MOA. Great bullets, I'm sold on them. I have a T/C Encore ProHunter with a 28" barrel and getting well over 3000 fps with this combo (you should get upper 2800's to mid 2900's with a std length barrel). And in my 7mm's, the 140 grainers are just as accurate (if not moreso) and just as deadly. It is good to know before you ever pull the trigger that it is a dead deer. These bullets give me that confidence.

Sako,

3170MV out of a 24" Pederson bbl............

Yea, that would be about 300fps diff.

Well done.

Tony

I have only tried a couple of loads with the 139 gr. Interbonds in my 7mm-08 and 154 gr. Interbonds in my .280 and in those initial loadings, I was not real impressed with the accuracy that I was getting but admittedly I have not tried very many loads yet. Hopefully I can get something to shoot as I have a box of each yet!

"I" have gathered that overall, in most instances, the accubonds are more accurate

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me, from the reports of those here on this board (I've never shot either bullet personally), that the IB's tend to retain a little more weight than do the AB's. AB's seem to average 60-70% and the IB's seem to average ~80%...

I would have assumed different, as I believe the HIB's are a bit thinner on the jacket compared to a NAB.

I put a finishing shot into a coues deer at about 30 yards with a 140 NAB from a .270wsm (MV 3150). the bullet broke the onside shoulder (1/4ing to) smashed heart/lungs/guts and was recovered on the far side in front of the hip. Retained weight : 90 grains... thats from 30 yards and a MV of 3150. not bad in my book!

As I stated in another thread the IB's seem to have a larger frontal diameter and retain around 80% of their weight from the bullets I have recovered. All but one have been DRT with the IB. The AB's however seem to be less finicky as for accuracy. The 8pt I killed with the 257 Roy and 110 AB did not impress me with the exit which was about the size of a dime and went through both shoulders and he still made it 60yds. Others that I have talked with have said in their .308 calibers that the AB's exit holes were around the size of nickels to quarters depending on the distance. Most of my IB exits have ranged from quarter sized to golf ball. If my gun shot both the same I would shoot the IB's.

I've had better luck getting the Interbond to shoot well. And its performance on game has been nothing short of excellent. There's a lot to like about this bullet. Course the Accubond is a good bullet too, but I just haven't been able to get the same level of accuracy out of it.

Apples and Oranges

Quoting from NRA's American Rifleman from their May, 2004 issue:

"While other bulletmakers tout 90 percent weight retention from their bonded bullets, Nosler took a different approach. Its goal is deeper penetration, even at the sacrifice of weight retention. The problem with bonded bullets that are designed for high weight retention is that they quickly form a large frontal area that impedes penetration. Nosler designed its bullet to have about 60 to 70 percent weight retention. That obviously means that it will lose some weight. That's because it's designed to shed some of the expanded bullet material to keep the frontal area of the Accubond bullet a little smaller than some other bonded bullets. Accubond is designed for early expansion, but rather than tear completely apart as a Ballistic Tip often will, the Accubond's petals are designed to fold back tighter against the bullet shank. This makes a slightly smaller diameter mushroom to allow deeper penetration."

The Interbond on the other hand is made like the Trophy Bonded Bear Claw, Swift A-Frame and Scirrocco where the lead stays with the bullet and just mushrooms out. This has a greater weight retainage but impedes penetration.

The Accubond is supposed to be a replacement or substitution for the Partition and be more aerodynamic and more accurate.

I experienced exactly that. My recovered Accubond retained 65% of its original weight, even when being fired into shoulder at 30 yards with a MV of nearly 3200 fps

When you are getting passthroughs on deer with Interbonds anyways additional penetration doesn't make any difference, but the additional wound channel volume from a larger mushroom does.

I'm shooting .284" 154 grain Hornady Interbonds at 2950 fps.

i believe the interbonds do retain more weight and have a wider frontal diameter and probably create a larger wound channel do to the wider frontal diameter but if deer are the target, they'll both drop them like lights out.... FOr me the NAB shot better than the IB but I used hornady factory loaded ammo vs. hand tuned NAB ammo so not far comparison

chech this thread for recovered bullet pics and comparison of the IB to the SST the IB retained like 75-80% of its weight while the SST was around 50-55% fwiw


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My Remington 7600 .308 Win with an 18.5 inch barrel will group the Interbonds into 1.5 inches (3 shots) pretty consistently at 100 yards. The load is 43 grains IMR 4895 with OAL of 2.78 inches. My Tikka T-3 .308 Win will shoot bugholes with that same combination. My buddy has an A-Bolt 30-06 that will bughole as well at 100 yards with 50 grain IMR 4064 and 165 grain Interbonds.

I shot my buck last year with a 165 grain Interbond at about 40 yards. Weight retention was over 95 % and bullet recovered on opposite side on a quartering towards shot. Deer travelled less than 25-30 yards. My buddy shot a nice 10 pointer here in NB at about the same distance. Deer was DRT. Also, he went to Alberta with another buddy and they both shot mule deer with the 165 grain Interbond at 100 yards or less. Both deer travelled less than 50 yards.

These are very good bullets. They are not a "deep diver" as they tend to retain a lot of weight and open up quite wide. For a deer bullet, I think they are a very good choice if your gun will shoot them.

Good hunting and shooting

The one time I tried the IB in a 270 win, they would not shoot;have not tried them since although it looks like they do a pretty good job with good expansion and frontal area.I have not gotten around to trying them in other calibers.

I've killed only one buck with the AB;he was the biggest-bodied mule deer I've ever shot,a monster type in Alberta.He was shot at about 175 yards through the onside shoulder,quartering on with a 140 AB from a 7 Mag at 3250 MV. Bullet broke the onside shoulder,went through the chest,and was found against the offside ribs.It weighs about 60 grains,and I saw nothing remarkable about its' performance as I've gotten cup-core bullets to do as well. Based solely on this(a small sampling for sure)I could not call them any better than a slightly tougher BT.Apparently the heavier ones penetrate better and hold more weight as some on here have good success with them on elk size stuff.They are very accurate,though and seem to do a passable job on deer.

What advantage they hold over a Partition sort of escapes me though.

Bob,
The advantage is supposed to be similar performance as a Partition but with a higher BC (though there is not really much difference in most calibers/weights) and greater accuracy for most folks. Accubonds have proven very accurate in all of my guns, and the only bullet I have ever recovered came from a similar shot as yours, but this was a Mid-MO 8 point whitetail (not in the same league as a monster muley) and the bullet weighed 98 grains and was a perfect mushroom. This was also a 140 gr Accubond in 7mm, and was shot from a stout loaded 7-08 with a 24" barrel at about 40 yds. Impact velocity was almost identical to your situation. I'm sold on 'em, at least for the kind of hunting I do where the shot may be as close as 15-20 yds or as far away as 300. Each to his own, just sharing my experience. IMO they are GREAT deer bullets. Haven't used them on anything larger, but I bet put in the right spot, they'd work darn good.

bludog: I agree; they are accurate....