This powder is amazing! 68 grains behind the 180 TTSX from a 28" barrel 3231 FPS

With the 225 grain Accubond I worked up to 66 grains with F215 primers for 2969 FPS

Case head expansion is the same as the factory loads. I pulled some bullets and replaced the powder to get an accurate case head measurement comparison.

We have a "Primitive weapon season" here in LA that allows an extra 3 weeks of deer season. To qualify one must use a si gle shot exposed hammer. 35 caliber or larger.
I'm not cutting the barrel as it is no longer than a 24" bolt rifle

Man, not too much need for a 338 with numbers like that John. Gosh darn that 28” barrel doesn’t hurt anything at all.

Don't think you'll find many shooters with 28" barrels nor many seeking those kind of velocities in .35 Whelen.

That's an interesting concept that you believe that 35 Whelen users are against flatter trajectory.
Didn't know there was a group that preferred more drop

Holy spit!

Please re-read my post, I NEVER said anything about drop nor flat trajectory. Thank you very much for not putting words in my mouth !

I didn't put words in your mouth and what posted is what your post hints

When do you put it on paper John?

Your mindset is what's doing the hinting, the .35 Whelen is perfectly capable of what it was designed for without 28" barrels or your kind of velocities. I've been shooting, hunting with and reloading for a Whelen for more than 35 years, have lots of practical field experience with the cartridge.

The 1885 is sold with 28" barrel, New powders are changing the rules.
I can kill deer with a 45 ACP, I know I've down it. No down side to more speed to flatten trajectory. None

As soon as I get new scope mounts and bases. These leupold windage adjustable are junk.

Damn, that's a hammer. I know Brinky72 was getting 2700 fps with the 250 Speer and Power Pro 2000MR with I think a 23" barrel. The Whelen just keeps getting better....

Agreed. I'm going to trade a couple pounds of Power Pro Varmint fir some 2000MR and load some 250 grain bullets

A game animal (deer) isn't any deader shot with a round out of a 28" barrel going 2900-3000 fps. Loaded the way I load is easier on the shoulder, barrel life, the wallet, etc. a win-win-win ! Carry on , do as you please if that's what floats your boat.

I will carry on! Why the hell did you even post in something you aren't interested in?
Instead of your BS you should have skipped it

BS is strictly your opinion, most Whelen owners would not agree with you..

You've taken a poll of most Whelen owners?

Lol. I wouldn't consider myself most Whelen owners but I believe it's certainly more capable than what it was designed for. Certainly not just a short range brush buster. The two that I own are designed for different purposes. The Mauser action is to be hunted with using normal Whelen heavies 225/250s. The Win 70 has a 25" heavy barrel and was built for shooting targets. I wouldn't call that typical but it'll shoot sub-moa even with cheap Hornady bullets. Capable cartridge to begin with but it's fun to experiment with newer bullet designs and powders.

Nice, not a damn thing wrong with getting out of Orville Wrights aircraft and onto an A380 airbus for a flight across the salt pond, technology is not always a bad thing.

I'll take it myself!

You bet Big B, not a damn thing wrong with 250gr Partitions at 2700 fps either friend, that's a five down one in the pipe 338 WM bull elk, moose, big bear buster.

Thank you for the Whelen data. These new powders have moved the old girl up to another level in the ‘06 case. For a few years I ran my old 03 Springfield at 2800 with a 225 Barnes x. What a hammer. I don’t run the old girl that hard anymore but if I had a new Ruger Hawkeye 1/12 twist I would be working on power pro 2000 and cfe223 loads I assure you. Like you it matters to me that I give up nothing by carrying a 35 Whelen into elk country.