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Fact of Fiction? I've never shot any since the original Barnes X.
Fiction, at least in my experience. I've only shot them in 22,24,25,27,and 28 calibers though.
I think the new ones are better somewhat than the originals, but then again how many are you gonna shoot? Also with the available cleaning solvents we have today, I think its a non-issue.
Ive shot off quite a few and they never really fouled up my barrel that much, last time at the range I shot off 16, a week before that it was 22, I haven't cleaned my barrel yet and it is still shooting bugholes.
Fiction, a friend had a rifle that fouled them, but that bore would have fouled baby powder, after 50 rounds of Tubbs, and 200 strokes JB, he's GTG.

He runs the 180 TTSX's out of his 300 WM @3150 fps with little fouling and excellent accuracy.

Gunner
No problems with the two rifles I've been playing with.


Travis
JGR: The original Barnes X were terrible foulers...for shure...


the TSXs and TTSXs are a tad different alloy and have a lot less bearing surface. IME....and I shoot a LOT of them....they foul considerably less than standard c-n-c bullets.
I've not had any excessive fouling issues with TSXs.
I've found them to be better than the originals. Shot them in 22,24,25,26, 27,28,30,375,460, and 505 only though. LOL!
Well, come back and tell us something when you have some experience....... grin
Thanks guys. I'm wanting to try the 120 version in my 7-08.
Originally Posted by ingwe
I shoot a LOT of them....they foul considerably less than standard c-n-c bullets.


Yep with many rounds out of different pipes..No problemo wink.. ..53gr TSX in the Swift.. 85gr TSX in the 243 and 6mm..130gr TSX in the 264..140gr TTSX in the 280..150gr TTSX BT 30cal.in the 300 WM.

My only beef is with the deep seating required on the heavy end of the spectrum with standard throats.


I have solved maybe forty rifles with them. Only one had a fouling problem with them. It was a Parker-Hale with a nice sharp shiny bore. I JBed it four times, and I could not get t to shoot decently after maybe three rounds until I DBCed it. It fouled unmerciful. Could always get two accurate shots after one fouler, and then sometimes I could get a third or on rare occasion a fourth. DBC fixed it.
I haven't shot TSX's in as many calibers and rifles as some, but can recall trying them in several dozen rifles from .224 to .416.

They do tend to foul barrels a LOT less than the original Barnes X's, especially in lighter weights for caliber, since there are fewer driving bands and hence less contact with the bore. In bores that don't copper-foul much, TSX's don't foul much. If the bore tends to foul much, they do. If there is the rare problem, I've found DBC solves it, as MILES58 posted.

Today was was testing a bunch of things with my Heym .300 Winchester Magnum. Like many .300's, it shoots very well with Reloder 19 and a 165-168 and Reloder 19. In this instance it was the 168 TSX.

I cleaned the barrel down to bare steel before the test, and the first 3-shot group was just about an inch. Shot several more groups and they shrank. The last were between .51 and .74, averaging .61. My records indicate that barrel will shoot that way for 60-70 rounds without any noticeable change. And this barrel has not been DBC'd.
I DBC'ed the 7-08, so this may have been a stupid question. I went apeschittt with the darn stuff.......coating 6 rifles before I ran out.
Only tried three different TTSXs in two different rifles, but they have not fouled badly at all. In fact, they have been the easiest to get to shoot well, show less pressure signs and don't foul. Mine have been DBC'd. Oh yea, they seem to kill things too. Becoming a fan.
New Barnes Good to Go in my 777700008888 120's and 140's reloads and the Federal premium 140 TSX factory load (shoots as good as my handloads)
what load did you wind up with?
Fiction.
Hornady and Nosler both want you to believe they are. Just a case of "bullet envy"
Originally Posted by ingwe
JGR: The original Barnes X were terrible foulers...for shure...


the TSXs and TTSXs are a tad different alloy and have a lot less bearing surface. IME....and I shoot a LOT of them....they foul considerably less than standard c-n-c bullets.


What the old guy said. grin
Originally Posted by ingwe
JGR: The original Barnes X were terrible foulers...for shure...


the TSXs and TTSXs are a tad different alloy and have a lot less bearing surface. IME....and I shoot a LOT of them....they foul considerably less than standard c-n-c bullets.

+1
No difference in fouling between conventional lead core jacketed bullets and Barnes TSXs and TTSXs.
Originally Posted by RickF
Originally Posted by ingwe
JGR: The original Barnes X were terrible foulers...for shure...


the TSXs and TTSXs are a tad different alloy and have a lot less bearing surface. IME....and I shoot a LOT of them....they foul considerably less than standard c-n-c bullets.


What the old guy said. grin


Wow! Did you refer to Ingwe as "the old guy"? That's about as insulting as bringing up the dreaded .270 topic, which I sure wouldn't do... blush

I'm sure Ingwe will want to qualify his above stated experience and testimony to specifically exclude that whole .277 thing... laugh

I'm sure he'd never admit to having fired TSX, TTSX or any other projectiles of that particular diameter... shocked

DF
All those pics of ingwe with mulie bucks and game in Africa... He is holding a Kimber Montana 270 WSM. But I'm the only one that's supposed to know... Whoops.
With a BSA scope..
Originally Posted by JGRaider
Thanks guys. I'm wanting to try the 120 version in my 7-08.


Excellent choice, you are going to like it. What powder(s) are you considering using?
Originally Posted by Tanner
All those pics of ingwe with mulie bucks and game in Africa... He is holding a Kimber Montana 270 WSM. But I'm the only one that's supposed to know... Whoops.


Originally Posted by Vic in Va
With a BSA scope..


Now, you guys not trying to get the Poobah's bowels in an uproar, are you..? blush

DF
I shoot them all the time, and they are much better than the old X bullets.
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by Tanner
All those pics of ingwe with mulie bucks and game in Africa... He is holding a Remington 770 270 WSM. But I'm the only one that's supposed to know... Whoops.


Originally Posted by Vic in Va
With a BSA scope..


Now, you guys not trying to get the Poobah's bowels in an uproar, are you..? blush

DF


No........ grin

I had to fix that post about his mostest favorite rifle......IN THE WORLD..
Originally Posted by bludog
Originally Posted by JGRaider
Thanks guys. I'm wanting to try the 120 version in my 7-08.


Excellent choice, you are going to like it. What powder(s) are you considering using?


Figured I'd start with 43-45 gr of Varget. I like the H Extreme powders.
Fiction.
I have been using them since they first came out, have had no fouling issues, if you are having a fouling problem it is more likely caused by your barrel.
TTSX & TSX, IMO, actually foul less than many gilding jacket bullets.

But almost all my rifles that get much work are coated with the Dyna Coat stuff so fouling isn't much of an issue but the Barnes didn't foul any worse than anything else in a given gun before the bore coating.

As for the 7-08 loads with 120's, RL-15 at 44.5 gr. is my normal go-to load but I've also had great success with Varget, RL-19 & H4350 as well, mainly with 140's though.

MM
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