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Posted By: vabowhntr 150 gr ttsx 30-06 for elk? - 08/14/12
I am running the 150 gr ttsx in a 30-06 between 2950-3k fps, would you feel this is enough for elk inside of 300yrds? Even though the barnes should give better penetration, is the bullet too light in your opinion?
Yes and Nope....
That's the bullet I'd use....and in the 308 too.
I'd use it in a heartbeat.
That's exactly the bullet I plan to shoot from my '06 out to 500y+
Absolutely not a problem.
Posted By: taz4570 Re: 150 gr ttsx 30-06 for elk? - 08/15/12
Lots of things have been killed by 150 grain bullets out of the 30-06. This one should work.
Will work fine vabowhntr; just practice with your load and be sure of what distance you can place your shot properly and it will work out fine.
Shot placement trumps all.........
Posted By: bludog Re: 150 gr ttsx 30-06 for elk? - 08/15/12
Getting the exact same velocity range in my 308 win using that bullet with 2000MR. Excellent groups as well. When I take this 308 elk hunting, that will be the load of choice.
Thanks guys, I am setting up this load for a friend who didn't think the 150 gr was the right choice. Someone told him he needed 180s or 220s for elk. His gun shoots them better than the heavier bullets, and I was sure the 150s would do the job at those speeds out to three hundred. As little as he gets to shoot, he shouldn't shoot farther anyway.
I would use it in a heartbeat. I would also have no problem using the 130gr barnes as well.
Posted By: TakeEm Re: 150 gr ttsx 30-06 for elk? - 08/15/12
From my experiences using the 150gr X, XLC, TSX and now TTSX out of the .30-06, I have no doubt this combo will kill any Elk on the planet. Good luck!
Inside of 300 yards why not just use a plain old rn bullet or a partition of 180-200 grains and sight your rifle in for 200 yards. this can't be all that hard.
Posted By: KenMi Re: 150 gr ttsx 30-06 for elk? - 08/16/12
Cause the TTSX is actually dependable, accurate, and hits like lightning.
have you shot big animals with a nosler partition? at moderate velocities they are utterly dependable and in 30 06, inside 300 yards would be a fine choice. my point was I don't see the advaantage of using a long range bullet at the distances you estimate and a rn hits a lot harder than a spitzer as far as my own experience has demonstrated.
Posted By: 7 STW Re: 150 gr ttsx 30-06 for elk? - 08/16/12
No bullet is fine.I shoot 150 E Tips outta a 300 for large game.Works great
I killed AK/Yukon moose/40yards, caribou/405years, mule deer/125yards, and dall sheep/250yards with a 30-06 and the 168 TTSX running 2930 last season. All of them died quick. The 150 TTSX will out penetrate anything out there. People telling him to shoot 180-220 grain bullets have never shot anyting with a barnes tsx/ttsx.
Originally Posted by Mississippi
I killed AK/Yukon moose/40yards, caribou/405years, mule deer/125yards, and dall sheep/250yards with a 30-06 and the 168 TTSX running 2930 last season. All of them died quick. The 150 TTSX will out penetrate anything out there. People telling him to shoot 180-220 grain bullets have never shot anyting with a barnes tsx/ttsx.


Thread hijack in progress. Mississippi, what load did you use in your '06 to get that speed? I bought a box of 168 ttsx this week.
Originally Posted by LeonHitchcox
Originally Posted by Mississippi
I killed AK/Yukon moose/40yards, caribou/405years, mule deer/125yards, and dall sheep/250yards with a 30-06 and the 168 TTSX running 2930 last season. All of them died quick. The 150 TTSX will out penetrate anything out there. People telling him to shoot 180-220 grain bullets have never shot anyting with a barnes tsx/ttsx.


Thread hijack in progress. Mississippi, what load did you use in your '06 to get that speed? I bought a box of 168 ttsx this week.


+1 what load?

Let's hear some 150 TTSX loads while we're at it. I have partially worked up with RS Big Game, but need to confirm things when I find time to hit the range.
that's true, i've never shot anything with a barnes because NPs work for me. my point was what is the point when a 180-200 np will do the trick. in other words, what exactly is being gained by the use of this bullet?

just curious to the mindset here.
Worked up to 60 gr H4350 in my fwt pre 64 with the 150 TTSX. 3.30 in this rifle which is .07 off lands.
I ran a max charge of IMR4064 with 150 XLC's and it shot bug holes at 100 and well under moa out to 300. Advantage IMHO running a 150 Barnes v heavier Part. would be a little less recoil and trajectory. Splitting hairs really but thats about it. 300yds you won't notice much and the recoil is notta in the hunting field. Partitions are only a little cheaper than Barnes so it is really a toss up.
Posted By: Shag Re: 150 gr ttsx 30-06 for elk? - 08/18/12
Originally Posted by vabowhntr
I am running the 150 gr ttsx in a 30-06 between 2950-3k fps, would you feel this is enough for elk inside of 300yrds? Even though the barnes should give better penetration, is the bullet too light in your opinion?


Many here including me that have taken elk with a .270win and 150's.. An -06 with 150's would be even better. It looks like I'll either be running a 150NP, a 150AB or a 150TTSX for elk this year.


What powder r u gonna run while loading for your friend???
Originally Posted by Shag
Originally Posted by vabowhntr
I am running the 150 gr ttsx in a 30-06 between 2950-3k fps, would you feel this is enough for elk inside of 300yrds? Even though the barnes should give better penetration, is the bullet too light in your opinion?


Many here including me that have taken elk with a .270win and 150's.. An -06 with 150's would be even better.



Agreed

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I used that combination last Fall on a WY cow elk at about 170 yards. I put two shots tight behind the left shoulder (broadside). Both bullets didn't exit, but did the job. She was a large cow and staggered around for 15-20 seconds before dropping.

This year I'm using a little more gun...9.3x62 w/250 gr TTSX's or Acubonds.

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Originally Posted by greentimber
Originally Posted by LeonHitchcox
Originally Posted by Mississippi
I killed AK/Yukon moose/40yards, caribou/405years, mule deer/125yards, and dall sheep/250yards with a 30-06 and the 168 TTSX running 2930 last season. All of them died quick. The 150 TTSX will out penetrate anything out there. People telling him to shoot 180-220 grain bullets have never shot anyting with a barnes tsx/ttsx.


Thread hijack in progress. Mississippi, what load did you use in your '06 to get that speed? I bought a box of 168 ttsx this week.


+1 what load?

Let's hear some 150 TTSX loads while we're at it. I have partially worked up with RS Big Game, but need to confirm things when I find time to hit the range.


Big Game and a 150 ttsx at 3020 fps shows lots of promise in my rifle. I keep trying other stuff for the fun of it, but will probably settle on that load.
Posted By: Fotis Re: 150 gr ttsx 30-06 for elk? - 08/20/12
Originally Posted by vabowhntr
I am running the 150 gr ttsx in a 30-06 between 2950-3k fps, would you feel this is enough for elk inside of 300yrds?


Absolutely!
Posted By: Brad Re: 150 gr ttsx 30-06 for elk? - 08/21/12
150 TTSX recovered from my elk a few years ago:

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Can you give details on shot placement and impact velocity?
Posted By: prm Re: 150 gr ttsx 30-06 for elk? - 08/21/12
Originally Posted by Brad
150 TTSX recovered from my elk a few years ago:

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TTSX, or TSX? Just curious. Looks like a smaller opening than I'm used to seeing with the TTSXs. Either way, not ideal.
Posted By: Brad Re: 150 gr ttsx 30-06 for elk? - 08/21/12
Originally Posted by seven_miller
Can you give details on shot placement and impact velocity?


150 TTSX (Blue Plastic Tip), 308 Win (1-10"), 2,840 MV, impact at IIRC, around 140-170 yards. Bullet didn't open and tumbled on impact. Was found backwards on the off side. Bullet hit nothing on its flight.

I have no doubt that expanding mono's generally work well enough (I've used the 168 TSX to good effect), but strange thing do happen with them, just like their frangible hollow point brethren. After all, the expanding mono's rely on a small hollowpoint for expansion, and anyone that's used hollowpoints knows they're prone to weird behavior more often than bullets that rely on a lead tip to initiate expansion.

Very much so "weird behavior." I'm glad to hear that you recovered the animal after that not that the end justifies the means. I would be leary myself after that. My rule of thumb with mono's is "run a weight you can push 3K MV or better or forget it." I can do that wiyh both my '06s with 150's. Out past 300 yds I aim for structure more vs soft vitals to help with lower impact speeds. It has worked for me so far. WT deer only to date.
I used Big Game. I dont have my load book with me but pull up JB's article on 30-06 loads
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