hey guys would any of you be willing to share some of your load data for the 7mm saum . i have a model 700 with a 24 in barrel and ive been shooting 140 gr remington core loc ultra factory ammo but its getting hard to find . i really want to shoot 150 game kings since i have 200 of them , lol . or even a heavier bullet . i dont have any books that have any load data for this cartridge . all my books are older ones . but im thinking maybe trying h1000, imr 7828 , h4831 sc and cci 250 primers . i just want a good whitetail load out to about 400 or 450 yards in the 2900 or faster fps range . any data or advice would be appreciated .

150 BT's, max load of H4831sc, CCI magnum primers. Load them out as far as your mag box will feed. Shoots lights out in my rig, does very well in others around here. Clocks around 2935 fps mv out of my 22" tube, with crazy long case life, which is important. Good all around bullet, easy to find on the shelves.

P.S.

http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp

Working up to their max loads have done very well for me.

I saw 56gr of RL17 and 160's mentioned here and on another hunting forum. Both members were getting 2,900fps+. My 22" barrel has proven to be about 50fps slow on average with nearly any load I get from others here, but the 160AB at 2,850fps shoots really well in my gun using the RL17 load. (Work up, as always)

These loads all shoot well under an inch in my stainless/synthetic 700 BDL:

Hornady 139 Spire Point 60.0 H4350 3152 fps
Hornady 139 Spire Point 62.0 H100V 3285 fps
Sierra 160 GameKing 66.0 RL-25 3044 fps
Sierra 160 GameKing 68.0 Magnum 3036 fps

The H4350 139 load is especially accurate.

I'd also recommend the Hodgdon Data in this case as it's probably the most realistic for this situation. I'd also recommend starting at the bottom charge-wise and chronographing each batch along the way, stopping when you get as close as you can to the data without going over (regardless of charge weight) since you're using hotter primers than provided in the data and it'll probably take less powder to get there. Just my two cents.

7mm Remington SAUM (Hodgdon Data)

Warning! Notes: Case: Remington; Twist: 1:9.25 inches; Barrel: 24 inches; Trim: 2.025 inches; Primer: Remington 9 1/2M
154 Hornady SP Hodgdon H-1000 65.0 2,866
Remarks: 55,700 psi

154 Hornady SP Hodgdon H-1000 68.0 2,960
Remarks: 61,900 psi; compressed
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154 Hornady SP Hodgdon H-4831 58.0 2,824
Remarks: 55,000 psi

154 Hornady SP Hodgdon H-4831 61.5 2,947
Remarks: 62,700 psi
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154 Hornady SP IMR IMR-7828 59.0 2845
Remarks: 55,500 psi

154 Hornady SP IMR IMR-7828 63.4 3016
Remarks: 63,400 psi

+1 what Rancho said. H4831 and 150's will meet your needs.H4831 seems to work really work well in the SAUM

With 154gr IL I got the best accuracy and speed with RL22. That's after trying RL19, RL22, H4350, H4831sc and H414. I didn't have any RL17 at the time.

imr4831sc in mine with 150 and 160 grs


very first 3 shots out of mine went .39 with 160 gr BT

I pretty much quit there. Although the rifle will shoot most anything in this range into < 1"



mine is a SS model 7

55 grns RL 17 with 160 accubonds or 150 etips

160gr Accubonds & H4831sc for a mild 2800-2900 fps but very accurate. I'm getting a custom built and plan on shooting 168gr Accubond LR with H4350, H4831sc or H1000

Good to see you alive and kicking! You find any ABLR's north of the border yet?

67 grs. of H-1000 and a 150 gr. partition. 3052 f.p.s.

My self I don't own one but I have a buddy that is getting 3400 fps with 140 accubond with imr-4350 and I know it sounds crazy but it was verified on 2 different chronys. No pressure and safe in his gun which in a Remington. I could not believe it myself.

No pressure.

Um, yeah.

2900-2950 with 162 Hornies can't be beat. R22 or H4831 and use your chrony.

Horny Amax's that is.

The 3400 fps velocity is a pressure sign.

Ya think? (grin)

It sounds crazy and stupid. Taking a look at both Nosler and Hodgdon Maximum loads, it's not a miracle or mystery to me how he's getting over 200 fps more velocity over maximum, he's obviously adding quite a bit more powder, therefore creating more pressure and velocity, your friend is a moron sir. I don't know why the hell people keep thinking reading brass for signs of pressure is worth a schit, THE ONLY WAY TO HAVE ANY IDEA OF PRESSURE IN A CARTRIDGE IS TO CHRONOGRAPH YOUR LOADS AND COMPARE TO LEGITIMATE DATA SUCH AS HODGDON, NOSLER, ETC.

7mm Remington SAUM (Using 140 GR Nosler Bullets)

Warning! Notes: Case: Nosler; primer: Rem 9 1/2M; barrel length/make: 24" Wiseman; twist: 1-9 1/2"; bullets: 140 GR Nosler AccuBond Spitzer, Ballistic Tip Spitzer, CT Ballistic Silvertip Spitzer, Partition Spitzer - OACL: 2.800" or E-Tip Spitzer (Due to internal construction differences, always begin with starting loads when using E-Tip products.) - OACL: 2.770"; maximum OACL: 2.825".

140 Nosler IMR IMR-4350 60.0 3,146
Remarks: maximum load; most accurate load tested; most accurate powder tested

7mm Remington SAUM (Hodgdon Data Maximum Loads)
Warning! Notes: Case: Remington; Twist: 1:9.25 inches; Barrel: 24 inches; Trim: 2.025 inches; Primer: Remington 9 1/2M

140 Nosler BT IMR IMR-4350 61.2 3174
Remarks: 62,000 psi

Sorry about the mistake on the 3400 fps with 140. He said it as 3300 fps which is still on the fast side. 3300 should be possible . I had a 270 wsm that would do 3200fps in a tikka with factory 140 ab federal.

3,300 is better, but is still about 100fps over what I'd be comfortable with in a 24" barrel. That's actually a fairly stout speed for a 24" 7mmRM with 140's.

I'd be quite happy with 3,150 or even 3,100 for a 139/140 gr bullet out of a 24" barrel. Hell, I'd be happy with 3,000 and good accuracy, I don't sweat velocity too much though either, reliability, accuracy, then velocity is priority for me.

From my notes...Remington M7 AWR, 22" bbl.

6/30/13 7mm SAUM Accubond 140 H4831sc 64.5 64.5 Rem Mag Rifle 2.800 N/A 5 3000 3003, 2985, 3038: SUPERB Accuracy. 1.5" 5 shot group at 200

7mm SAUM Nosler E-Tip 150 Magnum 69.5 Rem Mag Rifle 2.750 N/A 5 2835 2830, 2838: 1/2" at 200 yards. Yeah. 1/2". Superb all the way around.

10/15/11 7mm SAUM Barnes TTSX 150 Hunter 59.0 53 60 Rem Mag Rifle 2.750 N/A 8 2891 2923, 2856, 2858, 2889, 2928, 2882, 2902, 2893: 1.25", 8-shot group

As an aside, Remington 160gr. Partitions - Premium Factory Loads gave me 2,950 and very sticky bolt lift. None of my loads exhibited this kind of pressure.

As an aside, the 140gr. AB / 64.5gr. H4831 is what I used on my Mountain Goat.



Impact was just behind the right shoulder at 130 yards, exiting just a hair in front of the left shoulder. There was about an 8"x14" blood jello splatter at the impact point. Impact velocity is estimated at 2,750 fps.



All in all, it's incredibly impressive. That bullet travelled through about 20" of goat. It "barely" exited as far as I could tell. The exit wound was largely nonexistent, just a bare 1/2" blip out.

thanks for all the info guys , i did get to shoot a little h1000 with a 150 game king . it shot awesome but ive been trying to get ejection problems fixed on this rifle and havent played with it alot . remington sent me a new pin , ejector spring and ejector for it but it didnt fix anything and they said i might have to send it in . i think the ejector is bad on it myself .

Might be some schitt under it..

I have that same ammo, haven't shot it yet, I wonder how my Ruger MKII will like it. I'll have to shoot a few and just take it apart if it's too hot.

Had two boxes of that load. I had sticky bolt lift too. 3012 f.p.s. out of my 700.

Maybe that's why I got such a good deal on them. 5 boxes for $143.75 shipped to my door, maybe I should just take them apart and make my own loads with the Partitions and not even worry about shooting them.

yup in 7mm 168gr, I've got a box on my bench at home and more at the shop. Just sent a bunch downrange yesterday in my 260/129gr and have shot 150's in a 270WSM. Impressive bullet so far

Good to know they're working their way north.

I have a few pages of reloading info if you are interested. Not mine, but collected from the web. I found the 7 Saum super easy to load for so did not do much experimenting myself.