Looking for good powder for 180 gr loads. Does anyone use H4831SC
in there 30-06.

H4831SC usually very well with 180's in the .30-06. In fact the non-short-cut version also works fine.

I like H 4350 with 180's in the .30/06 where full velocity is easily achieved. I never found any success with the batch of H 4831sc I have with velocities 200-300fps lower that others report on here for the same charges.

Because H 4350 works so reliably, I never felt enthused enough to explore different batches of H 4831 in recent years.

I've used a lot of 4350, 4831, 3100, and H414. All have given good accuracy and velocity whenever I let the rifle decide what it likes best.

for highest velocity use superpeformance

Ramhot Hunter and RL22 should be looked at as well. Sorry, I know you asked about H4831....

I like Reloader 17

IMR4831 has always been my "try first" powder for 180 grain .30/06 loads. Most of the time it gives very good accuracy. A case full (59 grains) seldom approaches the muzzle speeds reported in various reloading manuals, but the deer don't seem to mind.

Michael

What is your load with H4350?

I have a few lbs of Ramshot Hunter also. Do you have any good loads with this powder.

H4350. Work up to 58.0 grains or 2800-2825 ft/sec in a 24" barrel. I've also had good luck with Re 17 in the 06 with 180's. H4831 has worked but I've never gotten the velocity out of it mainly because my cases won't hold enough powder. I think its a bit too slow for the 06.

IMR 4350 generally does quite well w/bullet weights 150-180 grs. Also found Rel 19 can give just as good accuracy and a few more fps. A newer one I'll be using in the field this year is 55 grs IMR 4451 under a 180 Partition. Velocity in a 24" barrel is 2750+ and very good accuracy. Have a cow elk hunt on Sept 1st, I'm sure it will work fine!

59.5grs H4831 for me

What he said !

I have had good accuracy with both H and IMR4350 as well as H4831 and RL22, with the 4350s providing a bit more speed, but I no longer get that excited about a bit more speed.

What he said, he said!

I'll second Bwinter's load of 58.0 grs of H-4350 (WLRM primer and R-P nickel cases) with a 180 A/bond; it gives factory advertised velocities from my 22" Mtn rifle and works great on elk from 25 yards to almost 500.

I'm not a high speed guy, but 55 grains of H4350 shoots best with 180 gr bullets of several a differnt brands inmy Pre 64 Win FWT.
However I get the same accuracy out of H4831 , about 57 to 58 grains.

JBs load of Hunter w/180s in my 22" Featherweight is 2850fps. H4831 is not even close. Never used 4350 w/180s.

lone wolf,

Hunter is my #1 choice with 180's in the .30-06. Ramshot lists up to 60 grains with some bullets but I usually end up using around 58-59 with Nosler Partitions. Velocity runs from 2750 in "slow" 22-inch barrels to 2800+ in most 24's. Accuracy ix excellent and the load performs about the same in a wide variety of temperatures.

I used Mule Deer's Ramshot Hunter load with 180 Accubonds to take my cow elk last November. 58.5 grains worked best in my rifle.

Bruce

Thanks John, I'll try it out this weekend with Nosler Pt

John,
Do you favor any specific primer with that load to consistently ignite that powder? Thanks!

Steve

Wally,

Have usually used the Winchester Large Rifle primer, which is hotter than most non-magnum primers, and had excellent results. But if a standard primer doesn't provide the accuracy desired with Ramshot rifle primers, a magnum primer usually tightens things up.

With the recent iffiness of Winchester LR primers, and the erratic availability of Federal 215's, I've been using a lot of CCI 250's with excellent results.

Excellent information. Now I have a good starting point as well. Thanks John!

There are moose bones weathered and scattered hither in various places as a result of the collision of 180 grains of lead and copper propelled by H4831…around 60 grains usually. However the last two moose I've brought home failed to survive a 180 E-Tip (last winter) and a 180 Partition (two winters previous) which were delivered by 58 grain payloads of Hunter:




Even 300 yards of subzero air could not bleed off enough speed to prevent a lethal outcome.

John,

I first happened across this load for 180s in your article on reloading the 30-06. Last time I tried the link I couldn't get to the article. Is it still available somewhere?

Just sent you a PM.

I run 56 gr. of H4350 with a velocity of 2730 fps with the 180gr. Nosler partition, so it's right in between bwinters load and yours. I get excellent accuracy and it kills deer and elk well enough:



I also run 57gr. of the same powder with the 180gr. Winchester powerpoints. It works very well on deer:

Thank you! Much appreciated.

I've been playing with a couple of 30-06's lately using Accurate Arms 4350.With a 180gr Nosler Ballistic Tip,I loaded 57.0grs of AA-4350,WMLR primer,Winchester case,I was getting 2873fps,excellent groups @ 100 and 200yds,no pressure signs with either rifle.The AA-4350 seems to be a great powder for the 30-06.57.0grs fills the case just below the neck.With 165gr bullets I'm loading 58.5grs @ 2930fps and it fills the case right at the bottom of the neck.With 150gr bullets,I'm loading 60.0grs @ 3020fps and it fills the case just below half way up the case neck.

57-58 grs usually is where the best accuraccy has been for me. I know Muledeer writes he likes it too at 58-grs.

56.5grs of IMR4350 and the Hornady 180gr SST clocks 2868fps out of my T3 and does 3/4" three shots at 100yds.

3031

Bwinters, what R17 load are you using with the 180 grainers, and what speeds were achieved if you don't mind sharing?

I too am using 58g of H4350 for about 2820fps, but have 5lbs of R17 here as well.

For 180's in my '06s they eat H4350. I've heard good stuff about Hunter but haven't been able to find any for what seems like a couple of years.

Be Safe,

55.5 gr and 2650 (20" barrel) if memory serves me. I'm headed kayaking and will check when I get back.

Yep - 55.5 for 2660 in my 20" barrel. I ran up to 57 for right at 2700 ft/sec but accuracy was better at 55.5 in my rifle.

58gn of Rel 17 got me 2150fps in a 22" barrel with 180gn Partitions.
John

Typo?

Yep.
2850fps. (2851fps average, actually)

I get that same speed with Hunter powder. I use 58.5 grains with 180 grain Nosler A/B. My rifle has a 24 inch Bbl.