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Posted By: LBP WTB 22-250 Small Base Sizing Die - 05/13/21
Like the title says, I need to find a 22-250 small base sizing die. Thanks
Why do you need one if I may ask?

I didn't even know they made such a thing for a 22-250
They did RCBS has stopped. I have a rifle with a tight chamber .
Cheaper and easier to have a standard reamer run into your chamber
You could do it by hand without even removing the barrel from the action
If you cant find a small base die you might try and change the brand of brass you use...........

It sounds crazy but years ago I had my own reamer made based off of 22-250 Norma brass, then just a few years ago Lapua started making 22-250 brass. Not a chance the Lapua brass will chamber.
I started measuring and found out Lapua brass was .004" bigger at the base than Norma or Federal, if you have a really tight chamber Remington and Winchester are .003"-.004" smaller than Norma or Federal.
Brass can vary a bit from lot to lot, but I have one lot of Lapua 22-250 that is a full .010" bigger at the base than a lot of Remington 22-250 brass
I have some Lapua brass and no chance it will chamber.
Besides RCBS I am sure some of the other manufacturers, like Redding would make one or a custom shop would..

however the cheaper route is to have the chamber reamed out with more generous dimensions...

Like many things from when I moved 3 summers ago, I can't find the Small Base set of 22.250 dies I had from RCBS
that I got back in the 90s IIRC....
A .308 Small Base Die will do it. I got mine from Redding.
Ttt
As mentioned above, I think the easier option would be to just have the chamber reamed out to fit your Lapua brass...

I have a tight chamber in a 20 Practical ( custom made).... its a bigger pain than its worth in my opinion..

I'd shoot it more if it wasn't such a hassle dealing with it...
Originally Posted by LBP
I have some Lapua brass and no chance it will chamber.

Custom rifle? Remington? What's the story on this rifle. If it was put together by a smith, I'd tell him the chamber is too dang tight and have him fix it. If its a factory rifle, maybe contact the manufacture and have them fix it. No reason for a chamber to be that damn tight. Is there?
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by LBP
I have some Lapua brass and no chance it will chamber.

Custom rifle? Remington? What's the story on this rifle. If it was put together by a smith, I'd tell him the chamber is too dang tight and have him fix it. If its a factory rifle, maybe contact the manufacture and have them fix it. No reason for a chamber to be that damn tight. Is there?


Better question is brass history.
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by LBP
I have some Lapua brass and no chance it will chamber.

Custom rifle? Remington? What's the story on this rifle. If it was put together by a smith, I'd tell him the chamber is too dang tight and have him fix it. If its a factory rifle, maybe contact the manufacture and have them fix it. No reason for a chamber to be that damn tight. Is there?


If you notice my earlier reply on this thread that I had my own reamer made to fit Norma and Federal brass before Lapua got into the 22-250 game..................when Lapua got into the 22-250 game they made their brass much larger at the base than anyone else................A small base die wont fix this !!!!!!!!!!!!

Switch to Norma or Federal brass or get an oversize reamer for Lapua brass
Rifle is a NULA Lapua brass won’t fit.
Originally Posted by LBP
Rifle is a NULA Lapua brass won’t fit.

Lester, really there is no need to run Lapua in your rifle if other brands will work. Like Boatanchor said. I'll agree with that. I run Sig Sauer brass and get excellent results. 1" groups at 400 and around 2.5" groups at 600. I seriously doubt anyone else is going to beat that by much with any kind of brass.. Especially in a lightweight rifle like a Nula.
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by LBP
Rifle is a NULA Lapua brass won’t fit.

Lester, really there is no need to run Lapua in your rifle if other brands will work. Like Boatanchor said. I'll agree with that. I run Sig Sauer brass and get excellent results. 1" groups at 400 and around 2.5" groups at 600. I seriously doubt anyone else is going to beat that by much with any kind of brass.. Especially in a lightweight rifle like a Nula.


I can say that if new Lapua brass doesn’t fit my rifle I’d want it sorted out myself.

And are those 10 shot groups at those distances BSA, cause if so that’s some fine shooting stuff. I’d likely never part with those rifles. whistle
There are a number of custom die makers out there. Just have a custom die made.
So y’all are saying that NULA’s don’t follow SAMMI chamber specs?

Or are you saying Lapua sells brass that’s not made to SAMMI specs?

Even with a minimum SAMMI spec match chamber, any new brass made should be smaller than minimum chamber, if not it’s junk brass.
I have 3 such chambers and never had new brass fail to chamber and that includes Lapoopoo although I must say that was the worst buck a piece brass I ever bought. Cull rate was higher than Remington or Winchester, about 20% +.

So yes Lapoopoo does turn out sh*t brass at times.
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by LBP
Rifle is a NULA Lapua brass won’t fit.

Lester, really there is no need to run Lapua in your rifle if other brands will work. Like Boatanchor said. I'll agree with that. I run Sig Sauer brass and get excellent results. 1" groups at 400 and around 2.5" groups at 600. I seriously doubt anyone else is going to beat that by much with any kind of brass.. Especially in a lightweight rifle like a Nula.


BSA, why would you buy from a company that was convicted of using Sig USA to facilitate the shipment of 38,000 pistols to Columbian and Mexican Cartels?
Originally Posted by Swifty52
So y’all are saying that NULA’s don’t follow SAMMI chamber specs?

Or are you saying Lapua sells brass that’s not made to SAMMI specs?

Even with a minimum SAMMI spec match chamber, any new brass made should be smaller than minimum chamber, if not it’s junk brass.
I have 3 such chambers and never had new brass fail to chamber and that includes Lapoopoo although I must say that was the worst buck a piece brass I ever bought. Cull rate was higher than Remington or Winchester, about 20% +.

So yes Lapoopoo does turn out sh*t brass at times.


I agree with you there. The reason I said in an earlier post that the rifle is faulty. The chamber should not be that tight. Sorry to others that think it should be. SAAMI specs are there for a reason. Manufactures are supposed to abide by those dimensions/specs. What ever/whoever is at fault, it needs to be fixed. Either rifle or brass in this case.. As for me, my rifles are going to use brass of all manufactures and they are going to shoot well. As for your question about Sig Sauer brass, I bought that a few years ago and have no idea what you are talking about. I know others that have used Sig brass and they have nothing but good to say about it.
Originally Posted by Swifty52
So y’all are saying that NULA’s don’t follow SAMMI chamber specs?

Or are you saying Lapua sells brass that’s not made to SAMMI specs?



WOW , you are a tough crowd.......NULA's specs are fine but probably on the tighter side of SAMMI specs and they had their reamers made long before Lapua got into the ballgame.

Remington, Winchester are at the small side of SAMMI specs and will fit in any chamber, Norma and Federal are slightly larger but will fit most chambers also............Lapua entered the game at MAX SAMMI specs and does not fit all
That’s true BSA, I’ve not had an issue with any brass except Lapua. The reason I bought the Lapua brass was availability, it’s all I can find and my supply of Winchester is about gone.
Originally Posted by FC363
A .308 Small Base Die will do it. I got mine from Redding.

+1

Iffin I needed to size to a .22-250 to minimum, I would try each of my .30-06 head-sized sizing dies to see if one of them had a small enough ID take care of the problem.

Michael
Originally Posted by Swifty52
Or are you saying Lapua sells brass that’s not made to SAMMI specs?

Lapua goes by CIP specs. They are from Europe after all. Yes Lapua brass is a bit bigger at the .200 line. I cant use their 06 brass in my minimum chamber 338-06.

https://cip-bobp.org/en

It's doubtful that a small base die will fix anything except to make your wallet lighter. I would see if a stripped 45ACP carbide sizing die will do anything at the .200 line if you have one, but it may not as the 22-250 & the parent 250/3000 are a few thou smaller than regular .473 base brass... .4668" vs .470" per Lyman #50.
Dies are like rifle chambers. Each die even from the same manufacturer varies in specs.
Problems arise when you have a max die with a minimum chamber. Try some of your friends dies. Hasbeen
Originally Posted by boatanchor
Originally Posted by Swifty52
So y’all are saying that NULA’s don’t follow SAMMI chamber specs?

Or are you saying Lapua sells brass that’s not made to SAMMI specs?

WOW , you are a tough crowd.......NULA's specs are fine but probably on the tighter side of SAMMI specs and they had their reamers made long before Lapua got into the ballgame.

Remington, Winchester are at the small side of SAMMI specs and will fit in any chamber, Norma and Federal are slightly larger but will fit most chambers also............Lapua entered the game at MAX SAMMI specs and does not fit all

100 % TRUTH!!!

Simple fix is Winchester or Remington brass, SIG brass is also great.

I design my reamers specifically for Lapua brass when I want them to run without problems in my gun. Most gunsmiths do not know of this problem, and if they do, they ignore the problem. I provide my gunsmith with the proper reamer for my needs with Lapua brass. Same issues arise with Norma, RWS, and Hertenberger brass.
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