Any of you guys have experience with this combo? I am trying to find a good load for the 75s. I shot 36 and 36.6 grains of H414 today but they ES was significantly higher than I am used.

I've been playing with the 75 gr HPBT in my 22/250. I tried 760 as I had a decent amount of it with no use so gave it a try. I was disappointed with the accuracy.

Next up was Hodgdon 4064 and Varget. Both of those gave me good starting accuracy. I am working with the Varget as I have plenty at the moment. I would like to find a companion load using IMR 4166 to use on occasion to clean the copper out.

37.5 gr RL 17, WW Brass, CCI 200 75 Gr AMax, 3244 FPS 5 shots, .437", 1in8 Tikka 22-250

Dennis send me your E mail via text or PM and Ill send you my Excell File 22-250 load data Kurt

Dennis,

I've used H 414 in the 22.250 with a fast twist and the 75 A Max, 80 gr A Max and 75 BTHP...

yet even tho the velocity spread was the highest of any load tested, the most accurate load used H 414, from 100 yds out to 400 yds.
with ANY of the three bullets...

I tripped over at a later point tho... the fastest velocity and accuracy combination with those bullets turned out to be 33.5 grains of 4064, which gave an MV of 3350 fps out of a 24 inch barrel from Pac Nor, 1 in 7 twist, Stainless barrel.

Don't know if you remember when we had the Campfire Get Together in Texas at Ed Too Many Letters place, we had a long distance shoot. you won that one, until they found one target that I hadn't put my name on.. my group was the smallest. I was shooting that 22.250 with the 1 in 7 Twist Pac Nor barrel on a Ruger 77 Mk 2 action, and my load was the one above... 33.5 grains of IMR 4064 with a 75 grain BTHP....

So that should attest to its accuracy potential.

I'll look and see if i have any 4064. I have mostly slower powders

Great accuracy with 75 A-max and H4350 in my '250

Same here. Great combo all the way around.

What kind of velocity y’all getting with H4350?

3025, but I'm shooting from an 18" Barrett Fieldcraft.

I was just reading about this in another thread and posted about filling the case full of 4350 and knocking the excess off the top and running a 75 Hornady on top of. Shot great. Lots of dead fur too. I think you can get like 41 or so grains in that case. Should run around 3000.

my post in November, once again... doing a lot of testing the fastest MV achieved and with darn good accuracy to boot...

33.5 grains of 4064....3350 fps with 75 and 80 grain bullets, out of a 24 inch Pac Nor Stainless barrel, in a heavy magnum contour, with a 1 in 7 twist...

and at the time, I thought I'd find that with H 4350 or IMR 4350.. but I didn't...

4064 and followed by RL 15 for the velocity and accuracy champs.. IMR 4895 NOT that far behind either of those powders...

Yea, 4350 won't get you there velocity wise. 4064 and varget will do it. Wish they wouldn't have stopped making 4320. It's a good powder. H380 ain't bad either. Buddy locked his bolt up and welded a case head to his boltface one summer. Load was good in the winter. One 90 degree day he shot a few shells that had stiff bolt lifts then boom, locked her down. Stuff is hot.

Lots of good options here.

Varget is the preferred powder in my two faster twist 22-250s.

My 22-250 had a 24” 1:8 twist Criterion barrel. With 75gr Amaxes, I got tiny groups and decent velocity (3167 IIRC) from R15. 5 shot groups at 700 yards were 3-4”. I tried H4350 but never got near the precision that R15 gave me.

Currently shooting 88gr ELDs from a 7” twist .22GT. Pretty much identical case capacity to the 22-250. This combo likes H4350, giving me a 10 shot group in the .4s.

So, I’d recommend something in the R15 burn rate with 75s and something in the H4350 burn rate with 88s.

John

So at what point as for bullet weight is it best to jump ship and move on to a 6 mm?

why limit yourself?

I shoot a lot of 22 cal and 6mm both...

waiting on my first 6 x 45 barrel...that an a 6 ARC is next....

I admit, I spend more time at the rifle range, testing stuff...
and second most activity is shooting a zillion sage rats each spring and summer

I shoot 6 to 8,000 rounds a year down range in some activity....most being 22 and 6mm... but last few years added 17 Fireball to that list...

In Oregon, I can shoot one deer a year... and I don't go elk hunting, because I've been shot at too many times by other elk hunters, that will shoot at any noise they hear...and have been fairly close to where other elk hunters were shot and killed by a fellow elk hunter, once they were two guys in the same party of like 10 in number...

I have a Savage with the 1-9 twist. I could never get the 75s to group good enough to make up for the accuracy of the 69 smk bullet. They shoot around and inch at 100 but the Sierra is better. Edk

I just bought a Ruger American Predator in 22-250. It's my understanding it has a 1/10 twist. I bought some RCBS dies from a friend and he threw in a pound of RL15. I will be loading some 63 grain Sierra SMP's. Does anyone have a pet load with a similar weight bullet and RL15 ??

kwg

from Steve's Pages:

https://stevespages.com/224_8_60.html

63 grainer, ( Sierra SMP)... 23 to 26.5 of Reloader 15...this is for the 223.

I can tell ya from experience in my bolt action 223s, if you want the max punch with that bullet, there is no problem upping the charge up to 28 grains in my rifles...brass or rifle never noticed the difference...

If it is NOT hot weather or high temps...take a look at the charge for W 748 down below that...I've used that for both the Sierra 63 SMP and the Speer SMP 70 grain...give the candidate a real hard punch....

for the 22.250:

https://stevespages.com/224_7_63.html

also look at W 748 here also... both bullets will stabilize in a one in 14 twist, so 1 in 12 or 1 in 10 will present NO problems stabilizing... with any powder..

I do have some 748 and just a bit of BLC(2). I was at a gun shop Monday and saw some BLC(2) on the shelf so it looks like it is making a return. I haven't see 748 for a while. I have never used Reloader 15 before so this will be a new learning curve. 28 grains in a .223. That's pretty aggressive. I don't foresee the day when that will happen but a guy never knows.

A 63 or 70 grain bullet stabilizing in a 14 twist. That's pretty interesting. Sierra also makes a 65 grain btsp that looks like a great choice. But, everyone seems to be sold out of those. The 22-250 I picked up was on the shelf at the local Fleet and Farm for about 2 weeks. I was pretty surprised to see it last that long. As per the salesperson that was the only one they had in the store and they had no ammo for it. I had the choice of a .223 Predator, a 6.5 Predator and the 22-250. I think I made the right choice.

The 2 pages you book marked aren't coming up.
kwg

Try again this morning on the links. I wonder if they might have been down just for site maintanence.

I have the link to Steve's Pages on my task bar, so never have a problem.

or just google Steve's Pages : https://stevespages.com/page8a.htm

the site is easy to navigate...even for Mr All Thumbs like me...


One thing I miss back in the Midwest, is the Fleet and Farm stores... AND their prices vs what the same items cost here on the Left Coast...

It says it has banned my IP address. Apparently, I have been a bad boy. I have never been to this site before but my reputation proceeds me.

kwg

I found some hanger rash on the receiver that was obvious and they gave me 10% off. I wish I had the money and I'd do the .223 Predator as well.

kwg

You should hear how they talk about you down at the social disease clinic.

I should quickly note that it's my wife's fault. I am innocent.

At least I'm not voting democRAT.

kwg

instead of trying to defend yourself there kwg....

AskPharm what is he doing down at the Social Disease Clinic, where he can overhear folks talking about ya.... don't let him pull that " I'm a pharmaceutical Rep and they are an account of mine" B.S.

I was in medical sales also.. and I haven't ever been to a Social Disease Clinic or had one as a customer....

Get with the program my friend...

It's good to have friends that back you up. Seafire has a point there Pharm. Just where do you hang out at ?? In truthfulness, someone has to be selling meds to the social disease people. I'm glad it's not me.

kwg

This of course was all in fun conversation.. Pharm is a good guy... Met him once when he was down this way... Had some powder he was looking for real bad.. knew where I could pick some up... I think it was RL 26.. bought 2 pounds and met up at his hotel... we talked in the lobby for a few minutes...Good guy


early 80s when I lived in Minnesota, worked as a sales rep with a Major Fortune 250 company... we had 50 sales reps out of the office..
me and a buddy who use to work together there, were out and the temp dropped to like 30 below.. and the snow started flying...
yet we were supposed to be back at the office at 5 PM for an end of the month sales meeting

so we were in my territory on Lake St, and Scott says, hey we passed an x rated movie place 2 blocks back.. lets just kill time going in and watch a movie or two... its one o'clock.. they had a thing that same sex couples got in for $2.00.. so we held hands and acted like we were a couple..

we get in there and sit in the back, with a seat in between us.... when the light off the screen got light enough Scott taps me and says " hey isn't that so & so down toward the front....turns out 5 other sales reps had come up with the same idea Scott and I had...

I was a field manager, so when we got back to the office for our 5 o'clock meeting, these 5 guys were standing over together having a conversation, away from the other folks.... so I walked over to them.. and said to them... Hey I heard a rumor that you guys spent the afternoon down at some Porn Movie dive watching movies instead of being out working.... they turned white and almost pissed their pants... Told them, don't worry, I'm not going to say anything to upper level management, but I better never hear of that again, got it?

They took off in a hurry. Scott was laughing, the guys were so scared, no one bothered to even ask how we knew that...I said nothing, but these guys always tip toed around me the rest of the time I worked there...

That reminded me, so that is why I asked the question, how did Pharm know what the people at the Social Disease Center said about you? without being there...

Sales guy stuff...

I wore out a 1-8"tw 22-250 22" rock rock creek barrel with 33.5gr of r15 in win brass and 205m's. Velocity was 3250 with moly'd 75amaxs. It was a fun barrel.

210m's not 205

Dont think I have ever seen win 22-250 brass that would take small rifle primers

My bad, 210m's.

Just scored 5k 205m's for 200$ so had that stuck in my head 😂

I've seen some, somewhere...I think it might have been European... like Lapua.....

I have a 1:8 Krieger in 22-250 AI on a 700 action and had the same issue as ERK. Could never get the Hornady 75s to group consistently. Ended up with 80 gr SMK.

Altitude can make a difference... not so much back east as it does out west here... ( I'm from the east coast originally ).

that twist is borderline... sometimes being on the cusp... try upping the velocity just a hair...and it might stabilize better...

a 75 A Max or BTHP do just fine in a 223 with a one in 8..

The other thing may just be the powder and charge you are using...

I have times I see that a bullet won't stabilize at our local range which is at 1200 ft altitude.. but I go up into the mountains to 2000 or 2500 ft in altitude and it stabilizes just fine and gives tighter groups...

Fastest loads I get in a regular 22.250 with a one in 8 and one in 9 twist, has been with IMR 4064, IMR 4895, and RL 15... instead of it being with slower powders, as I originally thought...

Braggart!

Thanks Seafire. I tried H-414, 4350, and R19 at loads that produced velocities from ~3000 to ~3500. Couldn't get it to work consistently. I did not try 4064, however. Sort of seems like just something with this rifle and bullet. They aren't friends.

My 7.7" Krieger 22-250AI(fluted #4),shoots Hornie 75 HPBT's,'Max and ELD's in the low .3's with '15. Hint.

What Reupold scope are you using? Mounts/rings? Stock? Brass? Dies? Hint.

If groups aren't round,your rifle is screaming "MECHANICAL!". Hint.................

We are going to need targets signed by reliable witnesses to believe that Stick.

Rickety,

Ain't it a hoot that which is "INCREDIBLE!" for you,is simply blasse' for me...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?

Gals who "know" and "do" as "much" as you,will ALWAYS be best served by asking questions,rather than giving "answers". Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!.................

Well Rick, I can verify that this a good load, as I shoot it in my 1 in 7 twist Ruger 77....

In Stumpy's case, even a blind hog finds acorns now and then....same thing applies to a drunk Alaskan Trailer Park kind of guys...