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Posted By: Troutnut Old 16 gauge shells - 04/08/24
Picked up a 1959 Winchester model 12 in 16 gauge today from a local gentleman. Said he was getting out of the 16s , didn't hunt much and wanted to know if I wanted the remaining 16 gauge ammo. I think some of it is older than the model 12. Mix of paper , mix of shot sizes but pretty cool ammo . This wasn't all of it. There was about 150 rounds total, just a selection of what was in the box .
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Posted By: Magnum_Bob Re: Old 16 gauge shells - 04/08/24
Hey troutnut, nice score the green ammo will go off and probably the plastic ww stuff and feds but the paper ww stuff is just for looking at. Mb
Posted By: Troutnut Re: Old 16 gauge shells - 04/08/24
Originally Posted by Magnum_Bob
Hey troutnut, nice score the green ammo will go off and probably the plastic ww stuff and feds but the paper ww stuff is just for looking at. Mb
I doubt I shoot any of it unless things really get bad. Put a few on the shelf to look at and give a few away to friends who collect. The old paper hulls do have a nice scent when fired though.
Posted By: battue Re: Old 16 gauge shells - 04/08/24
Doesn't look like it was used much...Nice pick-up!!!!
Posted By: patbrennan Re: Old 16 gauge shells - 04/08/24
Lucky you! I am not much of a bird hunter but a model 12 in 16 gauge is on my list of guns to look out for.
Posted By: Troutnut Re: Old 16 gauge shells - 04/08/24
Originally Posted by patbrennan
Lucky you! I am not much of a bird hunter but a model 12 in 16 gauge is on my list of guns to look out for.
Honestly probably my favorite all around shotgun. 16 takes care of 85% of what I need in a shotgun. I've got a couple but I can't pass them up when the price is right. Model 12s in 16 are built on the smaller frame and just feel right.
Posted By: Troutnut Re: Old 16 gauge shells - 04/08/24
Originally Posted by battue
Doesn't look like it was used much...Nice pick-up!!!!
No it wasn't. Thank you
Posted By: battue Re: Old 16 gauge shells - 04/08/24
Originally Posted by Troutnut
Originally Posted by patbrennan
Lucky you! I am not much of a bird hunter but a model 12 in 16 gauge is on my list of guns to look out for.
Honestly probably my favorite all around shotgun. 16 takes care of 85% of what I need in a shotgun. I've got a couple but I can't pass them up when the price is right. Model 12s in 16 are built on the smaller frame and just feel right.



Some will try and tell you different, but a better 16 Gauge pump action has yet to be made. Although they could perhaps did a better placement of the safety on the trigger.
Posted By: Troutnut Re: Old 16 gauge shells - 04/08/24
Originally Posted by battue
Originally Posted by Troutnut
Originally Posted by patbrennan
Lucky you! I am not much of a bird hunter but a model 12 in 16 gauge is on my list of guns to look out for.
Honestly probably my favorite all around shotgun. 16 takes care of 85% of what I need in a shotgun. I've got a couple but I can't pass them up when the price is right. Model 12s in 16 are built on the smaller frame and just feel right.



Some will try and tell you different, but a better 16 Gauge pump action has yet to be made.
No argument here.
Posted By: woodmaster81 Re: Old 16 gauge shells - 04/09/24
I've shot examples of all those pictured, currently have a couple each of the Remington and Winchester papers on the window ledge waiting for use in my grandfather's Iver Johnson single shot. I use these for pheasants out back while checking fences when the season is open and for various pests during the rest of the year. The plastic Remington's are from the 1970s based on the appearance of the plastic, the type of lettering, and the Power Piston wad vehicle can be seen through the plastic. I continue to load my empties for use on preserve pheasants but I am down to under 400 *57 primers so there isn't much time left for them. The red plastic Winchesters are compression formed and are the gold standard for 16 ga hulls. If you have many of them it may be worthwhile to offer them for sale, some people will pay pretty decent money for them.
Posted By: Bobmar Re: Old 16 gauge shells - 04/09/24
Good grab, Tommy!
Posted By: TheKid Re: Old 16 gauge shells - 04/09/24
My dad bought a case of old paper 16s at an estate sale for $5 a few years ago. I loaned him an Ithaca 37 and he finished shooting them all up last dove season. Every one of them went off and he killed a bunch of birds with them.
Posted By: Cheesy Re: Old 16 gauge shells - 04/09/24
Originally Posted by battue
Some will try and tell you different, but a better 16 Gauge pump action has yet to be made. Although they could perhaps did a better placement of the safety on the trigger.

Cough….37…..cough….side-eye….cough

( I did just buy Model 12 16 from 1923 2 weeks ago though, and like it just fine)
Posted By: battue Re: Old 16 gauge shells - 04/09/24
I’ve been waiting….😀

I think the 37’s are fine also. Had a 16 Featherweight that I traded for a friend to do some Dog training. Currently have one of their 28 gauges….and it works as well as the two Model 12-16’s.
Posted By: blairvt Re: Old 16 gauge shells - 04/10/24
I still turkey hunt with some of those red hull Westerns I got from my Dad. Work fine. I send pics of dead birds and the shell to my cousins who think only TSS can kill birds
Posted By: Troutnut Re: Old 16 gauge shells - 04/10/24
Originally Posted by blairvt
I still turkey hunt with some of those red hull Westerns I got from my Dad. Work fine. I send pics of dead birds and the shell to my cousins who think only TSS can kill birds
I'm sure they'd work on turkeys. I've got quite a few of those. They throw a nice pattern in several model 12s and 870s
Posted By: Magnum_Bob Re: Old 16 gauge shells - 04/10/24
Those red paper super x's are usually the ones that fail for me. I have a decent old shell collection. Using them on patterning with.my old guns is what I enjoy the most about them. They give me insight on the performance levels they had back then in same age guns. Older m12, m11, A-5's, m37,870's, m97 and dbl.guns are usually tight choked. So it is kinda neat to see how the.patterns compare and what can be done using the old wadding vs mod plastics. Mb
Posted By: MartinStrummer Re: Old 16 gauge shells - 04/10/24
WOW! What a find!
First, I'd sort out the paper shells and set them back. They're collectible to me! Not that they won't fire, but they're just a handsome reminder of times gone by!

I started a job in early 1988. There was a two week paid training period prior to actually going on shift.
One of thevtrainers was from Georgia and a garage sale geek. Talking on day on break, I said something about being a 16 gauge nut!
"Would you like some ammo?", he asked!
"Heck yeah!" I replied.
The next day, he brought me one of those small bathroom sized trash cans about half full of 16 gauge ammo! 😃!
He said he had bought a chest of drawers at a garage sale and the ammo was in one of the drawers.
It was a mixture of field load #8's and high brass #7.5's.
The stuff HAD to be at least ten years old.
In 2018 (30 years later!), I had refurbished a Win M12 16 gauge and wanted to kill a turkey with it.
I dug through the ammo and came up with 10 of the Hi-Brass #7.5's.
They, well, at least one of them, worked just fine!
Posted By: Troutnut Re: Old 16 gauge shells - 04/10/24
Originally Posted by Magnum_Bob
Those red paper super x's are usually the ones that fail for me. I have a decent old shell collection. Using them on patterning with.my old guns is what I enjoy the most about them. They give me insight on the performance levels they had back then in same age guns. Older m12, m11, A-5's, m37,870's, m97 and dbl.guns are usually tight choked. So it is kinda neat to see how the.patterns compare and what can be done using the old wadding vs mod plastics. Mb
Those older ones when they said full choke it's usually really full. I've got an early 870 in 12 that would compare to a lot of today's turkey chokes. Older guy I got it from won quite a few card shoots with it.
Posted By: Troutnut Re: Old 16 gauge shells - 04/10/24
Originally Posted by MartinStrummer
WOW! What a find!
First, I'd sort out the paper shells and set them back. They're collectible to me! Not that they won't fire, but they're just a handsome reminder of times gone by!

I started a job in early 1988. There was a two week paid training period prior to actually going on shift.
One of thevtrainers was from Georgia and a garage sale geek. Talking on day on break, I said something about being a 16 gauge nut!
"Would you like some ammo?", he asked!
"Heck yeah!" I replied.
The next day, he brought me one of those small bathroom sized trash cans about half full of 16 gauge ammo! 😃!
He said he had bought a chest of drawers at a garage sale and the ammo was in one of the drawers.
It was a mixture of field load #8's and high brass #7.5's.
The stuff HAD to be at least ten years old.
In 2018 (30 years later!), I had refurbished a Win M12 16 gauge and wanted to kill a turkey with it.
I dug through the ammo and came up with 10 of the Hi-Brass #7.5's.
They, well, at least one of them, worked just fine!
Yeah I'll probably use the plastic hulls eventually but I won't shoot the paper. Got a few friends who collect and I've got a small collection myself. Neat to look at and see how things have changed
Posted By: 30338 Re: Old 16 gauge shells - 04/11/24
Need more pics of the Model 12. Local shop has 16 ga #8 on sale for $10 a box. Probably should buy more.
Posted By: Troutnut Re: Old 16 gauge shells - 04/11/24
Originally Posted by 30338
Need more pics of the Model 12. Local shop has 16 ga #8 on sale for $10 a box. Probably should buy more.
That's a good buy on 16s these days..I'll get a couple pics when I get a chance
Posted By: MOGC Re: Old 16 gauge shells - 04/11/24
I like purple 16's...
Posted By: MartinStrummer Re: Old 16 gauge shells - 04/11/24
Originally Posted by 30338
Need more pics of the Model 12. Local shop has 16 ga #8 on sale for $10 a box. Probably should buy more.

I'd grab what I could! That's cheap!
Posted By: Troutnut Re: Old 16 gauge shells - 04/11/24
Originally Posted by MOGC
I like purple 16's...
Purple 16s just look right
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Posted By: bartman Re: Old 16 gauge shells - 04/11/24
Nice!! Purple 16's look good. Old Model 12's with purple 16's look even better.
Posted By: MOGC Re: Old 16 gauge shells - 04/11/24
Originally Posted by Troutnut
Originally Posted by MOGC
I like purple 16's...
Purple 16s just look right
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Really nice, congrats on a great shotgun! And proper shells. smile
Posted By: 30338 Re: Old 16 gauge shells - 04/11/24
Troutnut, that looks super clean. Nice snag.
Posted By: Troutnut Re: Old 16 gauge shells - 04/11/24
Originally Posted by 30338
Troutnut, that looks super clean. Nice snag.
Oh this is another model 12. No snow on the ground here now. I'll get the other one out when I get a chance.
Posted By: railman58 Re: Old 16 gauge shells - 04/20/24
Nice 16ga. I like 16s have 1 each of the Win Mod 12, Ithaca 37 and an old Springfield double. Shot a turkey with the Springfield Thursday. Used a Win 1 1/8 #4 Do have some paper shells that I use sometimes for squirrel hunting. Enjoy them while they last and keep a couple to look at.
Posted By: hikerbum Re: Old 16 gauge shells - 05/02/24
Didnt currently have a 16 ga, but stumbled upon a model 12 at a cant pass it up price. Has some rebluing and some spevkles. Havent checked the date yet. Gotta hunt for a box or two of ammo. Hard to find around here
Great deal. I love old shells, may even look for a 16 ga, Hard to find in my country,
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