I bought a M1100 .410 skeet gun a couple of weeks ago. I bought it on GunBroker, and after a terrible time getting it delivered, I was met with great disappointment when I found that the forearm was damaged. It was sent back, and about two weeks later I received another gun. I was again frustrated to find that the barrel wouldn't go on the gun. 'Oh, come on now, enough is enough.' I could see that in the making of the barrel, it was made so it wouldn't allow the barrel to go on the gun. Told AGAIN to 'send it back' I fussed with the barrel and finally, with much force, was able to get the barrel to go on. Having the barrel on, finally, I was eager to fire my new gun. I loaded it up with five shells and prepared for my first firings. Well, the gun jammed about the 3rd shot, and some of the ejected shells are split from being ripped out of the chamber. On top of that, the external chokes tubes, (I tried 3 of them) became loose after ONLY two shots. This is dangerous, and shouldn't happen. One should NOT have to always be checking to see if their choke tubes are loose ever two or three shots. The gun continued to jam about 6 more times over the firing of about two boxes of shells. Now, I find myself checking and tightening the choke tubes after every two shots. I've been a Remington guy all my life. I have tons of 870's, 700's, 1100's and others, but after this terrible experience, I will NEVER AGAIN buy another Remington gun. It is a sad day when a gun company turns out such a terrible piece of crap like this m1100... A sad day!

Couple questions.. Were these new or used shotguns? Was this a dealer on GB or a private party? Why did you force a barrel on a receiver, ( with much force... ) Are you sure it's the proper barrel for that action?

Re: choke tubes - Is this the Tournament Skeet? In any case, EXT choke tubes frequently work loose on most guns. When on the trap line I check mine after each station during the switch (SKB O/U).. Most of the time they're tight, but a few times I note a quarter-turn is needed to bring 'em back to the seat..

If you want to keep 'em in place (at least for a few days) apply a couple drops of blue locktite..

First off, don't twist my words around to make it sound like I 'forced' anything on this gun.. I said I got the barrel to go on "with much force". The barrel went on hard with the use of "much force", much effort, much pressure, much energy, call it what you want, but don't say I FORCED anything with this gun. I'd never force ANYTHING on ANY firearm. So don't make it sound like I took a hammer to it and 'FORCED' anything. Yes, the gun is new. It was bought off of GB from a place in Arizona, and tracking actually shows, both guns, came out of a warehouse in Minnesota. Yes, it is a tournament skeet with grade 4, beautiful wood, with external chokes. I thought about using locktite on the tubes, but then I thought, "I shouldn't have to do this to a gun". I shoot a ton of trap, skeet, sporting clays, etc. and have guns I shoot with external chokes. I always check my tubes whether they are internal or external, and only on a rare occasion will I EVER find a choke tube a little loose. Plus a new gun should NOT misfire and damage the ejected hulls like this gun does. A loose choke tube can be dangerous and cause and accident/injury. I'm a hunter safety instructor, and I have a choke tube that was destroyed because it was loose in the barrel. I use it as an example, passing it around the class, as to what can happen if the choke tube isn't screwed in all the way. I own over 20 other Remington shotguns and rifles. I've always been a die hard Remington guy, but this experience leaves a bad taste in my mouth when it comes to the quality of their current line of firearms.

I wouldn't say Redneck twisted anything around, I read it same as he and first question I pondered was why was there an attempt to press the issue when the barrel didn't smoothly go into place.

Maybe you didn't mean what you wrote but write it you did.



Was this a "NEW" gun or a previously owned, used gun?

Was there any signs of "Bubba Gun Work" on the firearm when you received it?

Why not send it back to the buyer for refund if received in such poor shape?

Did you check the gas ports in the barrel?

Is the chamber smooth and without gumming, light rust, fouling?

I read it the same as everybody else...




A bit much in the drama department there.

I'm sure there are plenty of other manufacturers out there willing to take your money, and equally sure that Remington won't miss your bitchin' and whining.

Hey Bud, Redneck was just trying to help.

First, if you shoot more than a little choke tubes will come loose. Unless you neglect them to the point they lock-up. Seen it happen on the best, so doubtful that Remington will be immune. Checking them on a regular basis should be second nature, especially for one who shoots a ton of trap, skeet and sporting clays. Surprising a HSI should find that, well surprising.

Thinking you should take you own advise to the newbie's?



Sounds like you have a lemon and deservedly so.

Yes, I was..

But I'll make a note to never, EVER, attempt to help this dude again... Easy to do in this case - he just got put on ignore.. HOpe the next shotgun he gets makes this one look like the finest Perazzi every built..

Yeah, but did you force it?

Sounds like a loose nut between the trigger and the recoil pad. I'll keep buying Remingtons with this ringing endorsment.

"Thinking you should take (you) own advice to the (newbie's)". That's the most ridiculous, assinine statement I've ever heard. BTW you spell your: Y O U R, not Y O U. And newbies is plural, not possessive. Can't you read? Weren't you listening? What is this post, a huge conglomeration and collection of negative, pessimistic, hypocritical, misinterpreting, brain dead, azzholes. Sure sounds like it to me. You said I should take my own advice I give about the choke tubes. Well, you azz, what the hell do you think I was doing when I told you I was checking the tubes every two shots or so??? GOD! Another case in here of more misinterpretions and twisting around words on the written page. I just came in here to express my situation with the quality of the TWO M1100 .410 shotguns I just received. Redneck, (oh how sooo fitting) twists my words around, suggesting I 'forced' something on my gun. NOT, and I just posted back to him, making it clear that, I didn't force anything. Then he says he was just trying to help. Well, first off, I didn't ask for his, or anyone else's, help. Then he wishes me bad luck with my next firearm. He's just a mean, sick person incapable of discerning words off of a written page, like so many others in this post. Folks in here just aren't listening. They hear and interupt what they want to. Well, Ladys, you really should all pay attention. I understand, however, you're all to busy being negative, closed minded, unobjective azzholes, and that keeps you from being objective, open minded, positive gentlemen, WHICH YOU AREN'T! COLD BORE, must of drinking a 'cold beer' when he read my post. He doesn't like my 'drama', as if I care, when I describe my frustration of receiving two new guns, both of which are either broken, jam, damage hulls, and have choke tubes becoming loose. He thinks I'm 'bitchin and whining' when I state my dissatisfaction with the quality and function of the two Remington firearms I've received. And I'm not justified to be upset about that??? And he thinks I'm 'bitchin and whining' when I post my situation. He may be to passive and whimpy to complain about the two inferior shotguns I received, but I'm not. And I don't know anyone else (Warm Beer, excluded) who WOULDN'T be upset when confronted with the same situation. I paid well over $1000.00 for this 'NEW' gun, and what did I get? An inferior, jamming, piece of crap.
If I lift a heavy load, and say, 'I did it using much force", did I force it? If I 'used much force' to open a jar of pickles, did I 'force' it? If I 'used much force' to open the heavy barn door, did I force it?? NOT! But, according to you azzholes, yes. It is all about paying attention to what you're reading, girls, and open to one's interruptation.
So to Swampman1 who thinks there may be "a loose nut behind the trigger", Cold Beer, who thinks I'm "bitchin and whining" about my troubles with my NEW gun, Battue, who thinks I should practice what I preach to my hunter safety students, (even though I clearly stated that I was), and suggests and wishes than my gun be a lemon, and Redneck,who thinks he heard me say I was 'forcing' something on my gun, and he was 'just' trying to help, (even though I never asked for his help), and has put me on ignore,(guess he showed me. NOT!), yes to all you negative, mean, condescending, hypocritical, know it alls.., go take a long walk off a short pier, and kiss my azz. Oh, and don't bother waisting your time responding in your typical negative ways, cuz, you're all going on MY ignore list..Ta, ta, children.

Grow up and go do something good for someone today. If you're capable... Now, have a good day! (:

So you screwed up the gun by forcing the barrel on (your words) and it's Remington's fault?

You never cease to amaze me Azzhole. Manufacturing more lies. And show me where I said I screwed up the barrel. And show me where I said, "I forced the barrel on." Mistaking things again. What an azzhole.. bite me! Grow up, girl!

Like someone once said: "It is better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt" To late for you and the other fools in here...

You're a sick man!

You have to be careful forcing things. If you haven't voided your warranty already Remingtion will probably bail you out again. Just sent it back or send it to me. I'll have it running in 5 minutes. Oh and stop working on guns.

Hunter,

What's with the multiple capitalization of words mid-sentence? You learn that while you were getting your english major?

Hunting/safety instructor? Hoping you can correct the newbies gun handling errors without subconsciously displaying a few of your own. We all know kids often learn by example. Hint.

"May the force be with you". You're going to need it.

The only person who didn't interpret your words as meaning you "forced" the barrel onto the gun is the person who wrote it. You might want to take a deep breath and think about that.

His problem-should I use capitals for problem-is that he jumped on Redneck, who just happens to be one of the good guys here, who was obviously trying to help. Makes no difference if he asked for help or not. It's the way this place works. You mention a problem or difficulty and you should expect someone to offer assistance. When it comes to rifles and shotguns, he got one of the experts and then proceeded to go off on him.

Right move? I could say "not", however that would tell us something.

Then he contradicts himself re: choke tubes. First he says this and manages to glaringly combine it with yet another capitalization error and a spelling mistake. Dang I wanted to say AND, but grammar takes precedence.

Should be every and not ever.



Then we get the hunter/shooing instructor line where he tells his students the importance of doing so.

Of course we or at least I am on ignore from one of the newest internet gun forum experts.

This is just toooo easy....



Then.....



Spelling, grammar, punctuation, context, format, you name it.

And I'm sure I missed a few.

Be very careful of critiquing others when you go on to absolutely blow it yourself.

BTW, I happen to have it on good authority that I'm *not* on your Ignore list...

Way to go dumbazz, there is lots of knowledge here and Redneck is top of the heap for bout 99% of it, not exactly the guy ya want to piss on when he's trying to help. Go dry off you're mittens and quit being a baby.

sounds like remington must be building their new guns like they're building marlins now. thats a shame. i would keep sending that thing back until it came back perfect. i've never had an 1100 but lots of 870's. in my experience you should not have to force or apply force, to put a barrel on.

Yes, it is really to bad. I've always been a Remington guy. That goes way back to 1966 when I bought my first Remington. It was a M700, .222 mag. with a Herters scope. Bought it for $140 from an Amishman with my lawn mowing money. I still have that gun, and of all the guns in my safe, that would be the very last one I'd ever sell. Lot of memories behind that gun. I bought my first Remington shotgun (870, 12 ga. pump) in 1971 when I got out of the service. Sadly, they just don't make them like they use to. I have 11 870's and 4 1100's and those older guns are made far better than the newer ones. That old 870 action is as smooth as butter, but the newer ones act like they have sand in the action. It seems folks today just want to make as many as they can, as fast as they can, just to make the dollar. It is obvious that there was very little, if any, quality control here. It is apparent that they don't assemble or test fire their guns before they leave the factory. They'll probably say that there is to much time and expense in all of that. Well, THERE SHOULD BE! This lack of workmanship and quality control will come around and bite you in the behind.
And, yes, you're right! One shouldn't have to use much effort to put a barrel on an 1100 or 870. Sure you have to careful and make sure the barrel is lined up with the receiver, as to make sure it isn't binding or twisting, but putting on an 1100 or 870 barrel isn't exactly brain surgery.
I also know that these guns are mechanical items, and like anything, things can go wrong. Be it a car, bicycle, gun, dishwasher, lawnmower, or whatever. Things happen.
But after this bad experience with getting not one, but two m1100's that were defective, it doesn't make me eager to run right out and buy another Remington. And that's sad and hard for me to say, cuz I've always been a huge fan of Remington firearms. I've had to send other firearms back to the factory for work, but only once before, have I ever had to send anything back to Remington. A few years ago, I noticed a crack on the pistol grip of a fairly new 20 ga. 870. After contacting Remington, I was advised to send the stock in. Within 10 days I received a brand new stock in the mail with a beautiful, screamin piece of wood. No charge. And that's the way it should be. That is the only time, (until now) that I've ever had to send anything back to Remington. It wasn't anything major, and they took care of it. As stated, in the past, I have had to send guns from Smith & Wesson, Ruger, Thompson Center, and Beretta back for repairs and shotty work. In all cases, things were taken care of and then returned to me. Like I said, things happen, as they are mechanical devices.
There are so many other gun companys out there, and they offer tons of options of different makes and models. Today, if someone isn't satisfied with the quality of a particular firearm, they'll just go buy one from someone else. With all the competition out there with all the various firearms companys, you'd think gun companys would strive to make their guns the best that they can be, so consumers don't abandon them and jump over to some other gun company.
In the end here, I feel confident that the problem with my 1100 will be taken care of by Remington, and I'll eventually have a proper functioning m1100 (I hope) that I'll be happy and satisfied with. That said, if the gun would of been made right the first time, and checked before it left the factory, I wouldn't of had to go through all of this frustration. For anyone who does shotty work, cuts corners, and is more concerned with quanity than quality, just remember, "what goes around, comes around". Every gun company should be very much aware of that.

Nothing wrong with new Remingtons and there never has been.

Oh really? It is clear you haven't seen the last two (new in the box) M1100's I've received.. If you define "nothing wrong", as having a cracked forearm, jamming, damaging fired, ejected hulls, 'nothing wrong', then sure, 'nothing wrong'.

U r such an azz..

Now, back to 'ignore' for you... tata jerk.

Oh, spelling police, where are you now...?

As all have mentioned, forcing things can really [bleep] them up.

I wouldn't know about forcing (verb) things, because I never force (verb) anything. I do, however, sometimes use force (noun) on things. There is a difference.

Hope that verb/noun thing didn't go over your head and confuse you again. It is easy to see you can be easily confused. It is because you're just not to smart...Maybe have Warm Beer (aka coldbear) help explain it to you. No, no, sorry, that's not a good idea either. He's even more stupid than you are..You'll just have to try to figure it out for yourself.. Good luck!

All I know is you [bleep] up your gun and you don't want to take the blame. "I've never had any respect for a man that could only spell a word one way"~Mark Twain~

" Any person who thinks putting shells in a gun and firing it, is '[bleep] it up', is a fool and an azzhole". ~Hunter01~

You said you forced the barrel on, cracked the foreend, and then it wouldn't function properly. Which is it?

Hey azzhole, go back and read (if you can?) my very first post. All can see what a liar you are. It clearly says it took much force (that's used as a noun azzhole not a verb) to get the barrel on. It also says the forearm was damaged when it was taken out of the box. The more you speak, the more you show the whole world what a frickin azz you really are, so keep talking. You're the one looking like the fool here. It is clear you are trying to twist things around. Not going to happen dufus. My first post shows what a twisted liar you are. Don't be late for your Special Ed. classes on Monday. Be sure to spend extra time on your reading comprehension assignment. So far you're getting an F.

P.S. Show me the quote where I said I "forced the barrel on, and I cracked the forearm". Come on, show me. I challenge you. Come on, show me.. Go ahead. I want you see you post my quote where I said that. Won't happen, will it? Cuz I didn't say that. YOU LIE!

You are a sick man!

I'm still waiting. Come on, show me....

Hey Swampdog, I'm back. I just took a shower and came back to the puter to check for your post. You're kinda quiet tonight aren't you. Cat got your tongue? Puter broke? Still waiting for you to post my words you said I wrote. I understand. Kinda humbles you to have your azz handed to you on the world wide web, doesn't it? You should learn not to lie like that on the web. Kinda makes you look like a fool when you say someone said something, then the whole world can go back and see what a fool and a liar your are. Yep, kinda humbling. Well, you ask for it.. And you got it....You are such a puppet. It was so easy to push your little buttons and make you react. So predictable. Such a little puppet. I'm done with you now. Thanks for falling into my trap, and playing my fun little games. It was so much fun. Thanks again. Please don't take this defeat to badly.. You'll get over it. Bye, bye now.. (:

I can not understand why a hunter/safety instructor would unpackage an unfamiliar firearm and even though he could see that the barrel was made so it would not go on the gun proceed to assemble the firearm with great force and then load it up and fire it.

So you could see it was defective, along with being told to send it back. However you decided to jam it on anyway and then shot it?

That snap you just heard was the trap going off.

Told ya...

so much bitching

We found a Bricktop relative in Ohio.

Doc

Was thinking the same but Brickie was 1) briefer in his rants and 2) usually right. I see Brickie has taken the edge off the last few months so there's hope...

Does your vagina hurt? Please don't work on anymore guns. Stick to knitting or bowling.

Please stop!! My wife has the phone in her hand and says if I keep laughing at my puter she's calling the psych ward. I got plans this weekend fellows don't screw them up .

I never thought it possible but I think he outdoes Bricktop and I like Bricktop.

Reading this thread was more fun than when granny caught her tit in the wringer.

While I agree that the original poster is way out of line, I also firmly believe that Remington has gone to hell in a handbasket and I will not buy another Remlin until something changes drastically. I have a Remington 700 ADL .270 that is incredibly accurate but it is ten years old. Last fall my son insisted that the only way he could hunt deer in the proper manner was with a levergun so for an early xmas present I bought him a Marlin 336 30-30. The rifle was a POS and was sent back for repair. This was in early November. Finally received it back in January after deer season was closed and they had fixed a problem I was not aware of but did not address the problem it was sent in to fix. The scope mount holes had been drilled out of alignment so badly there was not enough windage adjustment to zero the rifle. Instead of putting a new receiver on or sending back a new rifle, Marlin mounted a one piece base on the rifle and sent in back. The dealer where I bought the rifle graciously refunded our money and we purchased a Glenfield made in the late 60's that is a very nice rifle. In December my 21 year old daughter and I were shopping for a deer/hog rifle for her in a youth model. The Remingtons fit her better but the quality was sadly lacking. When held up side by side with a Vanguard it was really noticeable. My family now owns their first Weatherby.

This is awesome!

Where has this guy been? Why have I never read his posts before?

I'm going to go back and read some of his old posts, betting its a gold mine of hilarity!

This guy does seem to be wired a little tight. And yes, Redneck is one of the good guys around here and an apology would seem to be in order, but I would bet against it happening. miles

karma is a bitch isn't it...

I am wired tight and owe Redneck an apology?

somebody owes somebody an apology for dragging this thread outta they ass.

No, not you..........the OP.

You had me scared there for a minute. It wouldn't surprise me if the OP is the kind of guy that gets out of the shower to take a piss but when he takes a bath likes to sit on the drain while the water is running out of the tub. Now if anyone wants to ask me if I have tried the tub gig my answer will be, "I don't have to answer that question".

hunter01,

I don't have a dog in this fight but it seems to me that you should clarify the difference between, "I could see that in the making of the barrel, it was made so it wouldn't allow the barrel to go on the gun. Told AGAIN to 'send it back' I fussed with the barrel and finally, with much force, was able to get the barrel to go on." AND "forcing the barrel on."

I don't get the difference.

I've been looking at getting a new auto shotgun, and this thread has me convinced to to steer away from remlin-tons. So might as well step up to a Montfeltro or one of the Berettas. Though in the vintage Remington's defense, I do have a great 1187 turkey gun, but its a much older model which has worked flawlessly.

We should be glad that this person, according to his/her profile, is a retired educator and is no longer in a classroom.

Dumbphuck voted for Obama..surprised he knows which end of the barrel goes where. Hey Huntress when you get that remington up and running do us a favor and . Yes YOU CAN

http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/7050603/1

Doc, this is beyond Bricktop..he needs to get on his meds and now.

So, has anyone said "May the Force be with you."?

this is hilarious this guy must have a 100 pounds of sand in his clit it amazes me how whiny and pissy people get on a forum over the smallest little things then when they get called out they always go to trying attack someones grammer or spelling usually when i type i just dont give a flying [bleep]