George Gardner posted on FB that there's a new version coming. Sounds like a rehash of the current 4.5-18x design with some updates.

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That's great news. I hope it has the G2H reticle.

Awesome. Glad they are continuing with the Elite line, especially the LRHS.

Here we go again a tactical shooting competitor trying to design a long range hunting optic. Fancy whiz bang reticle and all. Tactical shooting and hunting need different scope and reticle designs. I guess I am happy it appears bushnell is bringing back some Japanese scope which is a great thing

It is a different scope and reticle design than their tactical/competition models.

George has hunted more than you will in your entire lifetime......

Seems to me the PRS comps are more similar to hunting than different, especially "western" style hunting where ranges can be longer. Hunting, at least in my experience, can be dynamic, unpredictable, high pressure, physically demanding, etal; which are all things PRS comps try to simulate. I'm a hunter, not a PRS competitor, but I'm super glad Mr. Gardner is collaborating (presumed) with Bushnell to design the next generation of LRHS. Just wished he would have asked for my input (grin).

I sure like the first series, and have high expectations for these scopes. Some of the best value scopes available for repeatable long range dialing IMHO.

I'm hoping they come out with a 3-12 as well

Is it confirmed they will be built in Japan? I have a LRHSi and can’t imagine taking a close shot on low magnification without the illumination in low light. At longer range, I haven’t needed illumination as the reticle is plenty visible.

me too

Very true.

I sure hope so!

+2

I spent this past weekend hunting with George, and got to try out this scope....The glass is amazing. The turrets are crisp, and the power range is very usable, and the parallax was really forgiving.

They are made in Japan, by Light Optical.....

That's great to hear. Thanks for the intel, Pat! Any idea of whether there will be a 3-12x model?

+3 for the 3-12x44!

Best scope I have ever run is the first LRHS. Eye relief is incredible, glass brilliant. Love it.

If both are on the same diameter tube, why go with the 3 x 12 instead of the 4.5 x 18?

3-15x illuminated and I'll be considering one.

Me too, but I think that would require a whole new design with 5x ratio. The LRHS and LRTS were/are 4x.

WY, is there a price point difference between that and the 4.5 x 18?

So it sounds like:

Donut of death is back, G3H
Non-illuminated for now
ED Prime, whatever that means
Under $1k (?)

Comments from George and Pat, regarding excellent image quality, are interesting as the LRHS/LRTS scopes seemed pretty dang good for the money.

I’d do a G3H I believe. That’s likely going to be a good optic. The 3-12 and 4-18 excellent.

thats nice to know, you have never met me, never spoken to me and have no idea who I am. you must be god? do you make a habit of making bold pronouncements about people you have no idea of? do you not agree that a tactical scope and a hunting scope has 2 distinct purposes and intended uses? YES OR NO? If I am in a tactical competition I would want most of the features or maybe all that come in the bushnell tactical scopes. I think the LRHS scopes in both powers would make excellent tactical scopes for competition. can they be used for hunting, YES but a 3x9 with a duplex can be used in a tactical comp too. pick the right tool for the job. BTW pat, develop a reticle that people can actually see in low light on low power then get back to me on how "expert" you are. 3-12 model not so awesome

predictably the clapping seals pile on, the ones who have never had an original thought in their entire lives. you guys realize I don't give 2 [bleep] what you think of me, you do realize I could care less what you say. why would I comment if I cared. I knew what jordan and all the clappers would say. have I not proven enough to you I have a thick enough skin to not give a crap.

yeah, just WITF WOULD you comment ?

It's good that you have a thick skin. But not good that you need it so often.

Why don't you just shut up and go tape a scope to the swing set. Pat has more credibility than you will ever hope to achieve.

We all know who you are.....

And head thickness to match the skin thickness.

Have you been off the couch this year or are you still adding to your 42" waist?

keep attacking and having nothing to say about the substance of the argument, tactical vs hunting. no one has a substantive argument against my position the clapping seals are so predictable. I make a comment they can't argue with so what happens? they attack the person, you guys act like democrats. argue the [bleep] point if you disagree. I listen to that. attacking me says you aint got nuthin. same bunch its always been, keep it going I am laughing. a tactical scope isn't a hunting scope and a hunting scope isn't a tactical scope, boom end of story!

I am sorry I don't post all sorts of pics of my hunting exploits. for one I have thought its somewhat weird to do so. its like look my dong is so much bigger, look I am so much cooler than you. It represents a weird mentality. I don't even post things on my personal facebook. I don't need anyones approval or congrats. hunting isnt just about the largest animal either. just how I feel about it.

YES, i do "not agree that a tactical scope and a hunting scope has 2 distinct purposes and intended uses?"

Looking at the picture, it appears George might be out Pat's way.

Excellent - Spot (me) lives by the Bushnell outlet store - which means more goodies for me.

You just went full Fireballz. Don’t ever go full Fireballz.

Yeah, I'd much rather see those pics of you at the park than actual hunting photos.

As far as your "substance of the argument" bullsh*t, have you ever considered that the style of reticle one chooses to hunt with is a matter of personal preference, based on how and where someone hunts?

Probably a great scope. I had a 4-15 but it was just too much for what I wanted. If I could find a way to swing one of George’s rifles, like an Xtreme Hunter or Evo Ultralight, one of these new 4-15s would make good sense. If I could have one rifle, it’d say GA Precision on it.

I was thinking of buying one of the LRTSI that are listed for sale. Based on this info, would most wait to see the new offering first?

Hunted a 3-12x44 LRTSi this past fall, and was so impressed that I grabbed a second one on close out.

Same dealer blew out a few 3-12x44 LRHS recently as well so I grabbed one (just took delivery this morning).

Difference in weight on my digital kitchen scale is 2.25 oz

Tonight I compared the two scopes the last 20 minutes of light on a variety of objects near and far.

Clearly a quick comparison, but initial thought is that I’ll likely sell the LRHS as I found the reticle much harder to see in low light than the LRTSi (Without the illumination on).

If the new reticle is heavier and/or illuminated it would interest me, but honestly the LRTSi leaves little to ask for (6 ounces lighter would be nice).

Any idea of the introduction date & deliveries will begin?

What a hypocrite.


The credibility of the message hinges on the credibility of the source. And this source (you) has ZERO credibility. Any time you find yourself losing a debate, you resort to playing the victim card. It's nauseating and tiring. Just stop.

You, yet again, find yourself opining authoritatively about something you know NOTHING about. Just how many tactical comps have you shot in? Let me guess. Zero? Exactly how much experience do you have ascertaining what makes a good comp scope (by actually using scopes in comps)? I'll take another guess. ZERO. The LRHS scopes and the G2H reticle are not great in a comp setting. Can the LRHS be pressed into service for PRS-style comps and work okay? Yes. But it is far more ideal for a hunting application where long shots may be possible. The DMRII Pro and XRSII are far more ideal for a comp application, and they are not ideal for most hunting, IMO, but can be pressed into service and work okay for some hunting situations. You're so clueless, you don't know what you don't know. Just how much experience do you have using the LRHS in low-light IN THE FIELD?? Hmmmmm, zero? That's what I thought. Close shots (sub-100 meters) can be made successfully with the G2H reticle beyond legal light here (30 min before sunrise and 30 min after sunset), in the brush. Period. Been there, done that. Unlike you.

If you would stick to talking about things you have experience with, people wouldn't point out your lack of credibility so often. Have a nice day, and Merry Christmas!

I have a 3-12 LRHS and a 3-12 LRTS. I love these scopes. I used the LRTS most of the summer on my PRS rifle. It worked great I used the LRHS part of the summer for My NRL22 rimfire gun It worked well but is not perfect for the comp's. I put the LRHS on my 7mm Mag hunting rifle. Perfect setup for a hunting rig. The LRTS gets pretty thin below 8 power but is still a usable hunting scope it currently resides on my .223 for coyote hunting. I am glad to see Bushnell bringing out this 2nd Gen LRHS should be awesome with HD glass like XTR has. I am excited to see what lays ahead from Bushnell in the Elite series rumors of a new Reticle for the XRS.

Cummy is just pisssed he didn't have a very good turn out at his puppet show today and this is the only way he can get attention.

Well, that and the truck stop parking lot.

“If you like this forum, and want the content to improve, go ahead and hit that self-ban button”.

You may not realize it, but you’re the only one in this thread trying to push an argument.

You don't post stories or pics of your hunting "exploits" as you have very few if any is my guess. Otherwise you'd offer up more proof than one pic of you with one coyote in the past 16yrs when pressed for evidence of your use of the things you spout off about in the field. 'Twould probably be the most effective way to support your stances on things like reticles and FFP/SFP scopes...

We post hunting pictures because we actually hunt......

Now, that's a proper mule deer!

Details on the new scope that differ from the old 4.5x18 LRHS
Biggest and best differance is the Glass has been changed to ED Prime, otherwise known as HD etc, much brighter and resolution is top notch.
New lens coatings that allow even more light in and less glare
G3H reticle is back and does not need illumination as its thicker for low light
for those that have not used to G3H id has a 2 mil circle that when dropped to 4.5 power make a nice (dogunut of death) for close range hunting.
Removable throw levar for fast power up or down
lockable windage knob, we went away from the capped windage and added the locking windage knob. Some guys wont use it after Sight in and some will so it opens more options.
Rest of the scope is the same , the length and weight is the same.
Price will be under $950 and will be available in Late June We will put a complete write up out soon and put up a pre order with small deposit on our wedsite to secure one from the first shipment

Thanks Guys

George

Cummins Cowboy ??? Never heard of Her!

That's gonna be a tough scope to beat.

Allow me to introduce you to him:



BTW, thanks for the particulars on the scope - sounds like it checks a lot of boxes!

Happy Holidays.

Thanks for the info, George. Looking forward to seeing that scope.

Jason

Thanks, George! Any idea if there will be a LRHS2 in 3-12x in addition to the 4.5-18x?

My question as well

George,
Any talk of a 3-12?

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Yep!! I don't hunt as much as you two do but heck, I even hunted the state he lives in this year...
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Starting with the 4x18, its not out of the realm of possibility that the 3-12 comes back as thats my personal fav too. But the 4-18 was more popular 10 to 1 last time so we started with the 4-18 First

Awesome. Thanks to both you and Pat for the info. I really hope the LRHS2 3-12 is released.

Thanks!

405wcf

I feel bad for Huntsman22. Now he's gonna have to upgrade all those originals he's got steering bullets.

Not a chance. I bet he'll buy more rifles, to put new LRHS2 scopes on.

Oh hell yes...

Bought bottom metal and ordered a stock for the next rifle today. But I still have a LRTS in reserve for it. Anything after that is fair game. But I'd rather a 3-12.....

Yeah, I like them both but prefer the 3-12. Still good to see either going back into production. Thanks for the head's up!

Please push for the 3-12, it my favorite scope.

I won't buy an optic unless this guy's put one through the wringer.

Epic.

Thanks George. What are the differences between the G2H in the previous generation and the new G3H?

Thanks,

John

Good info, for sure. Thanks.

if the new one has the half mil hashes inside the donut, it will be sweet....

Thanks for sharing this info. Looking forward to stocking up on them like I should've the first time around.

I'll add another vote for the 3-12.

George, forget the scope, what is this 6.5 RCM? Have I been living in a cave, when did this become a thing? Simply a 300 RCM necked down or more to it?

Edit: and put me in the 3-12 camp. Have Barrett Fieldcraft in 6.5 CM that could use a new scope.

George,

For what it's worth, count me in for the 3-12x configuration as well. I know that this site has a lot of rifle loonies, and may not reflect the broader market, but that seems to be the preferred configuration here.

And thanks for chiming in. We figure that you're a busy dude, and appreciate you taking time to provide info firsthand.

Jason

Pat and George, that's a stud muley!

@a10xrifle,

Will you be selling these exclusively, or ?

Another +1 for the 3-12x, I have one of the original LRHS’s with the donut of death reticle and would get another.

This... plus illumination and 3-12x

I'd definitely give it a whirl.

My old eyeballs love the LRHSi for the illumination, as well as the reticle seems thicker than the non illuminated version, which I can also see better when illum is off. I'd buy a couple of you guys LRHSi's in 4-18x that you get rid of.

Has there been any new news on these new bushnel scopes.

In case someone is looking for one now

LRHSi 4.5-18x44

Any news on these yet?

I spent some time behind one at the IB. It is a LRTS (throw lever and locking windage)with the reticle outta the LRHS. The glass is noticeably better than the 1st gen (don't know if the guts are the same), and supposed to be cheaper....

Looking to scope a 7 SAUM with one by the end of 2045 when I get all the other components compiled.

Nice Don. Thumbs up then?

yeppers..... but they really should put the G3 in 'em, too....

and light some up.....

I like the illuminated version. Will that be an option in the new LRHS?

No illum on the LRHS2.

John

hey Icuminacowboy, I have a serious question for you. wouldn't you say that by definiton a "tactical" scope is very likely designed from the ground up for hunting the most dangerous critter in the world?

Do these scopes hold zero and dial correctly over the long term?

we will have to wait for ICUMINACOWBOY to give us a video review of one of these scopes negrorigged to a tractor seat spring mounting jig to get a definitive answer to that