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I know that the differences get smaller and smaller the more money that you spend. Here's a "fer instance". I have a set of Zeiss Terra ED 10x32 binos that I really like. I paid around $400 for them. How much would I generally have to spend to buy appreciably better ones? I know the Kowa Genesis and Nikon Monarch HD are about $1000 and get good reviews, but is there anything in between?
I think the question is, how good do you really need? Same with scopes.
I think that a set of Meopta Meostars or Cabelas Euro (rebranded Meopta Meostar) are the "no brainer" answer to your question. There is a set of 8X42s listed on this forum at this link: https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...-wts-meopta-meostar-b1-8x42#Post16387985

If you are patient you can often find used Meostars in the 650 to 850 range. Obviously you wait longer for the low end of that range. I think the Meostars are the largest leap in quality for less money than any other out there. To me, and many other dolts of similar optical acuity, these are near-tier-one binocs at lower tier pricing.
Tract Toric are hard to beat for the money and can be had under 7 bills.
Originally Posted by Rickshaw
Tract Toric are hard to beat for the money and can be had under 7 bills.


This is the answer you seek.
Originally Posted by TheBigSky
I think that a set of Meopta Meostars or Cabelas Euro (rebranded Meopta Meostar) are the "no brainer" answer to your question. There is a set of 8X42s listed on this forum at this link: https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...-wts-meopta-meostar-b1-8x42#Post16387985

If you are patient you can often find used Meostars in the 650 to 850 range. Obviously you wait longer for the low end of that range. I think the Meostars are the largest leap in quality for less money than any other out there. To me, and many other dolts of similar optical acuity, these are near-tier-one binocs at lower tier pricing.



A couple years ago I picked up a set of MeoPro HD 10x42’s from Doug for an upcoming elk hunt. I’d done the usual research before hand and was well satisfied with the purchase.

A few months after the trip I was at a gun show and spotted what I recognized as a pair of MeoStar 10x42’s. They weren’t priced but I picked them up just to check them out. The guy behind the table says “I haven’t used those in years, I’ll take $95 dollars for them”.

Couldn’t get my wallet out any faster.
Originally Posted by UPhiker
I know that the differences get smaller and smaller the more money that you spend. Here's a "fer instance". I have a set of Zeiss Terra ED 10x32 binos that I really like. I paid around $400 for them. How much would I generally have to spend to buy appreciably better ones? I know the Kowa Genesis and Nikon Monarch HD are about $1000 and get good reviews, but is there anything in between?


You could get much better bino's for the same money by just switching to 10x42's. 32mm bino's have some issues, as others have said the 10x42 Tract Toric for under $700. much better set up than what you have now
The 10x32 are easier to carry for what I do. I know that going to full size binos would greatly improve things, but they'd always be back at home.
Originally Posted by Rickshaw
Tract Toric are hard to beat for the money and can be had under 7 bills.


This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

One would have to spend 2 to 3 times more for better
The review on BackwoodsPursuit says maybe the Athlon Cronus might be your answer for $500.
https://backwoodspursuit.com/26-best-binoculars-for-hunting/
Originally Posted by UPhiker
The 10x32 are easier to carry for what I do. I know that going to full size binos would greatly improve things, but they'd always be back at home.

Prolly better just using what you have then
Originally Posted by boatanchor


You could get much better bino's for the same money by just switching to 10x42's. 32mm bino's have some issues, as others have said the 10x42 Tract Toric for under $700. much better set up than what you have now


What issues do the 32mm's have?.......
Originally Posted by elkaddict
Originally Posted by Rickshaw
Tract Toric are hard to beat for the money and can be had under 7 bills.


This is the answer you seek.


Agree, I have a pair of Toric 8x42s.
I went from the Terras to a 10x42 Swarovski SLC bought on eBay new from a dealer $1300 and have never regretted it. Took 6 years to make a difference but got 2 elk you couldn’t see with the Terra (son in law using them next to me). Some 8x32 Sighton blue sky for archery & football games $200 and I’m good for as long as I last. Expect I’ll spend my optics money on scopes instead.
There was a pair of 8x30 Swarrovskis listed in the sale section for 7 or 8 hundred bucks why waste your money on Asian/Chinese junk when you can buy the best.
Originally Posted by LFC
There was a pair of 8x30 Swarrovskis listed in the sale section for 7 or 8 hundred bucks why waste your money on Asian/Chinese junk when you can buy the best.


Learned something today. Japanese optics are junk.
Originally Posted by UPhiker
The 10x32 are easier to carry for what I do. I know that going to full size binos would greatly improve things, but they'd always be back at home.


Then you'd probably be better off going to 8x32's. 10X combined with the 32mm objectives force a lot of optical compromises that the 8's don't have.
First off, I do some freelance work with Meopta, zero sales if that matters? For your budget of $500, it is tough to beat the Meopta MeoPro HD 10 or 8x42 binos. I keep a pair in my truck and then move it to my UTV for impromptu scouting. A solid performer in all conditions and as with all Meopta's, clear edge to edge. Reach out to Doug and see if he can help you out? He's always been very supportive of guys who come to him through the Campfire. If you did want to step up to a grand, The MeoPro Air bino is brand new this year and is a tremendous value in quality over price.
Originally Posted by scottfromdallas
Originally Posted by LFC
There was a pair of 8x30 Swarrovskis listed in the sale section for 7 or 8 hundred bucks why waste your money on Asian/Chinese junk when you can buy the best.


Learned something today. Japanese optics are junk.



That makes two of us.
I got a pair of Sig 3000BDX rangefinding binocs for 850 last year. I’ve had 10x42 Torics and a pair of 500$ Leupolds in the last 5 years. The Sigs are just as good on optical quality and the rangefinder that Bluetooth’s to my phone is outstanding.
The wise thing to do is to always buy the most expensive item available. If you don't, and have problems, any number of people will be quick to tell you that "You get what you pay for". If you buy the most expensive, when the item fails, it will at least shut them up.
Originally Posted by TheBigSky
I think that a set of Meopta Meostars or Cabelas Euro (rebranded Meopta Meostar) are the "no brainer" answer to your question. There is a set of 8X42s listed on this forum at this link: https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...-wts-meopta-meostar-b1-8x42#Post16387985

If you are patient you can often find used Meostars in the 650 to 850 range. Obviously you wait longer for the low end of that range. I think the Meostars are the largest leap in quality for less money than any other out there. To me, and many other dolts of similar optical acuity, these are near-tier-one binocs at lower tier pricing.



This. I haven’t even seen the tracts, but every fall I look through hunters’ Leica and Swarovskis. They are better than my non HD cabelas euros, but not that much and the price to get there is staggering.
I just picked up 10x42 meostars in the classifieds here, and they blow my old vortex viper hds out of the water.
Originally Posted by elkaddict
Originally Posted by Rickshaw
Tract Toric are hard to beat for the money and can be had under 7 bills.


This is the answer you seek.


Yep
Originally Posted by Bry
Originally Posted by TheBigSky
I think that a set of Meopta Meostars or Cabelas Euro (rebranded Meopta Meostar) are the "no brainer" answer to your question. There is a set of 8X42s listed on this forum at this link: https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...-wts-meopta-meostar-b1-8x42#Post16387985

If you are patient you can often find used Meostars in the 650 to 850 range. Obviously you wait longer for the low end of that range. I think the Meostars are the largest leap in quality for less money than any other out there. To me, and many other dolts of similar optical acuity, these are near-tier-one binocs at lower tier pricing.



A couple years ago I picked up a set of MeoPro HD 10x42’s from Doug for an upcoming elk hunt. I’d done the usual research before hand and was well satisfied with the purchase.

A few months after the trip I was at a gun show and spotted what I recognized as a pair of MeoStar 10x42’s. They weren’t priced but I picked them up just to check them out. The guy behind the table says “I haven’t used those in years, I’ll take $95 dollars for them”.

Couldn’t get my wallet out any faster.



I think I've seen your mugshot in the post office.
Meopta's MeoStar B1 Plus bino is a top-tier bino that won't let you down. Meopta glass is known for how well it functions in low light conditions and the MeoStar glass is the flagship of the Meopta bino line. I hunted all last year using the 8x42 MeoStar B1 Plus bino and I was thoroughly impressed. No bias at all, these binos worked great watching deer in the moonlight and were instrumental in helping me take a trophy 8-year-old buck. Meopta binos are definitely worth taking a look at and one of the reasons there are more and more Authorized Retailers out there. Meopta is also very supportive of LE/Mil/First Responders.
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