I've never had a problem with my Leupolds, but will soon be in the market for another scope. A lot of the Leupold bashing here on the fire seems to apply to the newer scopes, so I'm OK looking for used. Is there a bright-line test that a person can apply when looking at used Leupolds? Like year of manufacture, or somesuch.

Thanks!

Current production VX-6 and VX-5 are as good as it gets for hunting scopes but the MK5 is awsome if you don't mind a bit of extra weight.

Big improvements in "glass" over older Leupolds and track like they have AESA radar if you have a good rifle.

My "Pre 2004" 10X Mark 4 has proven very reliable, but I'm sure the optics are better on the VX-6, VX5 and MK5.

I'd love to find a good used 6X Mark 4.

Used a vX6 the other day, it's was better than ok

I’ve used M8’s for the last 45 years, they’re good enough for what I do and I’m very familiar with them.
Do know that there are scopes that track better and have better glass.

Just my opinion but the bashing may be because those guys want to justify why they bought somthing else.
I can’t even count how many leupold scopes I have
But havnt had many failures one was a turret got loose. New scope in 4 days. Another a scope I got used in the 1980s I fell and dinged the eye piece another new scope in 4 days
So don’t have many new ones all are over 10 years old
For a pre 64 wood stock I like those gloss scopes with a gold ring the vx3
I have a 3.5 x10 on one of mine another has 2x7
I have several vx2 3x9 on others

You have no fugking clue what you’re talking about.

A scope’s tracking is dependent on the rifle?

Is that what you tell the poor rubes that buy a Wyoming Scams?

When you sober up tomorrow maybe flesh this out a bit.

Thanks.

It'll be fun.

Scopes either track or they don’t.

Doesn’t matter whether it’s on a $450 Ruger American or a “state of the art” Wyoming Arms.

No that's not how it works.

If you and your ilk mount good scopes on crappy rifle you will get crappy results.

Blame the scope as you must but we all know the real issue.

Good rifles have very few scope issues.

Hope your feeeling better. Hydrate.

Just Sayin.

Lol. Is that your excuse for Leupold now?

They must be like communism. Just never given the right chance to succeed.

I have found the later M8s to be quite reliable, once zero’ed. Dialing scopes they are not. I am very fond of both the 6x36 and 6x42. I have had a lot of both of these, never had one fail.

If accurate adjustments are important, as well as extreme reliability, I go with the now discontinued Nightforce NXS 2.5-10x32. I have four of these scopes, FWIW.

I own a pile of varix II and III and have never had a problem with any. Probably got 5 I bought used even. But did have problems with a vx3i that I sent in and seems to be working now.

A good rifle will not make a scope track better, nor will a bad rifle make the scope track worse.

HOWEVER, a rifle that has constant impact shifts (barrel stress), or shoots large groups, much of the rifle's poor performance may be blamed on the optic. It is hard to test scope's tracking by SHOOTING if the rifle isn't nearly perfect.

Optic tracking performance should conducted separately from the rifle if you want to truly test the optic and not the rifle or a combination there of.