Which Reupold(s),will track,repeat and hold zero,as per my checkbook and ACTUAL shooting? Hint.
MINIMUM erector travel(40 Mil minimum),10yd parallax,etched reticle,(2) Mil's of erector travel per ounce of mass and robust guts? Erectors matching reticles,a given. Hint.
Flesh out in depth what you need the optic to do in real hunting situations.
Why not cut the BS and answer the question, if you do have an answer?
He’ll just call himself a wizard a half-dozen times along with a gif or three mixed in then name drop a bit. By then he’s usually most of the way through a fifth, and it’s time for an insulin shot and bed.
Flesh out in depth what you need the optic to do in real hunting situations.
Why not cut the BS and answer the question, if you do have an answer?
He’ll just call himself a wizard a half-dozen times along with a gif or three mixed in then name drop a bit. By then he’s usually most of the way through a fifth, and it’s time for an insulin shot and bed.
"Which Reupold(s),will track,repeat and hold zero,as per my checkbook and ACTUAL shooting? Hint.
MINIMUM erector travel(40 Mil minimum),10yd parallax,etched reticle,(2) Mil's of erector travel per ounce of mass and robust guts? Erectors matching reticles,a given. Hint.
"Which Reupold(s),will track,repeat and hold zero,as per my checkbook and ACTUAL shooting? Hint.
MINIMUM erector travel(40 Mil minimum),10yd parallax,etched reticle,(2) Mil's of erector travel per ounce of mass and robust guts? Erectors matching reticles,a given. Hint.
Do tell. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!..............."
LIL Fish,
Just trying to help you out.
Let's start at the start.
Explain why you want 40 mils of travel when you have never shot any game beyond 500yds?
I think lots here actually feel sorry for Burns at this point. He makes a complete Tard outta himself on the regular. If he is not flat out lying, he’s dry humping the door jambs a few times a week.
Ain't it a hoot,that besides being a Whining CLUELESS Fhuqktard,that you just also "happen" to be a Lying Piece Of Fhuqking Schit...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Bless your heart.
Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!............
Clue hunter,
I'm the guy who simply shoots it all and then some,as you set on your Couchbound Kchunt and clap your itty bitty hands. Hint.
For me it's not erector travel, or even tracking. Just want them to hold zero. Learned I can't trust zero until proven by a couple more range trips. Needless to say tested those we use. Slowly replacing them with......well, you know.
OTOH, friend just returned from muley hunt. Leupold VX2 shifted zero, made for some lousy shooting. Tempted to just gift him a 6MQ. But he likes variables.
Which Reupold(s),will track,repeat and hold zero,as per my checkbook and ACTUAL shooting? Hint.
MINIMUM erector travel(40 Mil minimum),10yd parallax,etched reticle,(2) Mil's of erector travel per ounce of mass and robust guts? Erectors matching reticles,a given. Hint.
Do tell. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!...............
Big Stick, the Campfires verbal eloquence equivalent, unfortunately, of John Fetterman.
I don’t know you, but that last video you posted, I would not be very proud of it that was mine. You were obviously not up for that shot and just lobbing them in. That video is neither a testament to your shooting ability, rifle, scope or judgment.
For God’s sake you shot it in the horn your second shot.
I don’t know you, but that last video you posted, I would not be very proud of it that was mine. You were obviously not up for that shot and just lobbing them in. That video is neither a testament to your shooting ability, rifle, scope or judgment.
For God’s sake you shot it in the horn your second shot.
How to tell us you don't know how to spot trace without saying "I don't know how to spot trace".
Scott's not know for his spotting through the camera and I still give schiet for that call.
All three shots were good hits in vitals but a horned up bull wanting to fight might keep his feet long enough for a good rifleman to hit him 3 times.
This video is a good way to see who knows good shooting and who does not understand.
Here is a simple video for the less sophisticated shooters to understand the good rifle/Leupold magic.
For me it's not erector travel, or even tracking. Just want them to hold zero. Learned I can't trust zero until proven by a couple more range trips. Needless to say tested those we use. Slowly replacing them with......well, you know.
OTOH, friend just returned from muley hunt. Leupold VX2 shifted zero, made for some lousy shooting. Tempted to just gift him a 6MQ. But he likes variables.
For me,it's everything,if only because I shoot a "few" different rifles. Hint.
'Course,they gotta fend weather too,meaning all the stuff that Reupold ain't. Hint.
Was that antler shot POI same as POA? Antler is “vitals” now? LMFAO….
He was definitely “horned up” and looking for a fight after you blasted part it off dumbass.
Just gonna quote this so when your beard explains "trace" and how to see it you won't delete the stupid post.
Baby Seal and WHOMP, WHOMP, WHOMP.
Was that antler shot’s POI same as your POA? Thought your “shooting system” was designed to just range, adjust and hit same POI as POA. Isn’t that the marketing gimmick to sell the long range hunting Schtick to the guys that don’t want to put in the work?
Was that antler shot’s POI same as your POA? Thought your “shooting system” was designed to just range, adjust and hit same POI as POA. Isn’t that the marketing gimmick to sell the long range hunting Schtick to the guys that don’t want to put in the work?
Blondie, ask a real man, not your beard, to explain "trace".
Was that antler shot’s POI same as your POA? Thought your “shooting system” was designed to just range, adjust and hit same POI as POA. Isn’t that the marketing gimmick to sell the long range hunting Schtick to the guys that don’t want to put in the work?
Blondie, ask a real man, not your beard, to explain "trace".
Wonder where the bullet hit the antlers?
Did the shot’s POI line up with your POA? Pretty simple question, I try to keep it dumbed down for you.
Was that antler shot’s POI same as your POA? Thought your “shooting system” was designed to just range, adjust and hit same POI as POA. Isn’t that the marketing gimmick to sell the long range hunting Schtick to the guys that don’t want to put in the work?
Blondie, ask a real man, not your beard, to explain "trace".
Wonder where the bullet hit the antlers?
Did the shot’s POI line up with your POA? Pretty simple question, I try to keep it dumbed down for you.
I have provided HD video and pictures but you still can't understand in that blondie head.
The bullet hit exactly where is should.
Where else would I be aiming if not at the right place ?
Was that antler shot’s POI same as your POA? Thought your “shooting system” was designed to just range, adjust and hit same POI as POA. Isn’t that the marketing gimmick to sell the long range hunting Schtick to the guys that don’t want to put in the work?
Blondie, ask a real man, not your beard, to explain "trace".
Wonder where the bullet hit the antlers?
Did the shot’s POI line up with your POA? Pretty simple question, I try to keep it dumbed down for you.
I have provided HD video and pictures but you still can't understand in that blondie head.
The bullet hit exactly where is should.
Where else would I be aiming if not at the right place ?
So for your second shot, you decided to switch it up and go for a head shot? Or you’re saying you were aiming at the elk and it hit the elk (somewhere) so it was a great shot?
I agree. You didn't hit the antler. Play it at 25% speed. You can clearly see you bullets path. You may have grazed its neck but you definitely hit a branch on its antler. You can see if fall off after getting hit.
Your second shot hit high, ahead of the shoulder, and hit the neck, probably breaking the spine.
I never had an issue with you. I don't know anything about you. But if your intent is to somehow suggest you are shooting accurately, or hunting ethically, this probably isn't the video to use to suggest it. Frankly, it looks like you're just lobbing shots and hoping for the best.
So for your second shot, you decided to switch it up and go for a head shot? Or you’re saying you were aiming at the elk and it hit the elk (somewhere) so it was a great shot?
Whomp, whomp, whomp…. Laffin!
Please point out where in the head the bullet impacted not where you hallucinated in you blonde coverd head.
Given the limitations of the system(no bedding block to fend the sun and a Reupold 4.5-14x),the nearly 6 MOA POA/POI "correlation",is WELL within "spec",given the shooter's "abilities". Hitting dangling limbs on antlers,with a Critter of that size and so close,is rather "special". Hint.
I agree. You didn't hit the antler. Play it at 25% speed. You can clearly see you bullets path. You may have grazed its neck but you definitely hit a branch on its antler. You can see if fall off after getting hit.
Your second shot hit high, ahead of the shoulder, and hit the neck, probably breaking the spine.
I never had an issue with you. I don't know anything about you. But if your intent is to somehow suggest you are shooting accurately, or hunting ethically, this probably isn't the video to use to suggest it. Frankly, it looks like you're just lobbing shots and hoping for the best.
All three shots were solid hits in the vitals and 2 were on a moving bull. Any of the three would have been enough but I tend to keep shooting when the bull is still standing.
The bull was dead on the ground in less than 25 seconds from the first shot.
I agree. You didn't hit the antler. Play it at 25% speed. You can clearly see you bullets path. You may have grazed its neck but you definitely hit a branch on its antler. You can see if fall off after getting hit.
Your second shot hit high, ahead of the shoulder, and hit the neck, probably breaking the spine.
I never had an issue with you. I don't know anything about you. But if your intent is to somehow suggest you are shooting accurately, or hunting ethically, this probably isn't the video to use to suggest it. Frankly, it looks like you're just lobbing shots and hoping for the best.
All three shots were solid hits in the vitals and 2 were on a moving bull. Any of the three would have been enough but I tend to keep shooting when the bull is still standing.
The bull was dead on the ground in less than 25 seconds from the first shot.
Pretty well done.
Solid hits “in the vitals”. That video’s a great marketing tool to sell $4,500 rifles. No wonder you’re operating out of the back of your buddies warehouse, on his capital. LMAO…
I don’t think you ever answered in the other thread, who makes your upper/lower receivers? They made in house? How bout them “majical” bedding blocks? In house?
All three shots were solid hits in the vitals and 2 were on a moving bull. Any of the three would have been enough but I tend to keep shooting when the bull is still standing.
The bull was dead on the ground in less than 25 seconds from the first shot.
Pretty well done.
Solid hits “in the vitals”. That video’s a great marketing tool to sell $4,500 rifles. No wonder you’re operating out of the back of your buddies warehouse, on his capital. LMAO…
You would be amazed at the crossover between guys who by expensive rifles and guys who can read trace and see impact.
The bulls whole body shakes when the bullet hits him on the point of the shoulder. Litterally HD video that can be played back frame by frame with > and < on YouTube.
For those in the know that was a pretty good bit of shooting.
It is a NICE "touch" to obliviously quantify struggle,with the innate "ability" to spell 3-letter words like "buy" incorrectly. This salves a 6-MOA "system" nicely and makes it SPECIAL. Hint.
"Which Reupold(s),will track,repeat and hold zero,as per my checkbook and ACTUAL shooting? Hint.
MINIMUM erector travel(40 Mil minimum),10yd parallax,etched reticle,(2) Mil's of erector travel per ounce of mass and robust guts? Erectors matching reticles,a given. Hint.
Do tell. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!..............."
LIL Fish,
Just trying to help you out.
Let's start at the start.
Explain why you want 40 mils of travel when you have never shot any game beyond 500yds?
I agree. You didn't hit the antler. Play it at 25% speed. You can clearly see you bullets path. You may have grazed its neck but you definitely hit a branch on its antler. You can see if fall off after getting hit.
Your second shot hit high, ahead of the shoulder, and hit the neck, probably breaking the spine.
I never had an issue with you. I don't know anything about you. But if your intent is to somehow suggest you are shooting accurately, or hunting ethically, this probably isn't the video to use to suggest it. Frankly, it looks like you're just lobbing shots and hoping for the best.
All three shots were solid hits in the vitals and 2 were on a moving bull. Any of the three would have been enough but I tend to keep shooting when the bull is still standing.
The bull was dead on the ground in less than 25 seconds from the first shot.
Pretty well done.
Solid hits “in the vitals”. That video’s a great marketing tool to sell $4,500 rifles. No wonder you’re operating out of the back of your buddies warehouse, on his capital. LMAO…
Solid hit? That isn't a branch that the dust is coming from. That bull's head is turned to his right at the impact and that is a solid hit alright, solid horn...
Originally Posted by Shrappy Baldwin Alec's older broghter and firearm trainer :D
Solid hit? That isn't a branch that the dust is coming from. That bull's head is turned to his right at the impact and that is a solid hit alright, solid horn...
LOL.
It's no suprise you can't read trace even from a frame by frame of HD video.
If only we had pictures of the bull head and skull.
Originally Posted by Shrappy Baldwin Alec's older broghter and firearm trainer :D
Solid hit? That isn't a branch that the dust is coming from. That bull's head is turned to his right at the impact and that is a solid hit alright, solid horn...
LOL.
It's no suprise you can't read trace even from a frame by frame of HD video.
If only we had pictures of the bull head and skull.
Baby Seals getting WHOMPED.
So your spotter couldn’t tell the difference between a shoulder shot and a head/antler shot? He’s spots like you spell?
Play the video slowly and really check it out at 1:24. The 2nd bullet impact is solidly and clearly NOT in the antler. That must have been water or dust or whatever else was on the brush that was tangled in the antlers being shaken off with the sunlight hitting it just right. It may have been bullet trace too I guess but that shot wasn't in the antler.
I'd agree that isn't a great video for marketing but only because folks jump to their own conclusions, just like this thread is proving. I'd also have explained and cleared that misconception up at the end of the video before posting it on YouTube, but that is just me, I guess. It may not have mattered though as people here likely wouldn't bother finish watching it before responding just like they don't read follow up responses on threads.
I am outie, got a moose tag and know where a spike fork yearling bull has been hanging out. Hopefully he has crossed onto public. Flame away, I guess.
Play the video slowly and really check it out at 1:24. The 2nd bullet impact is solidly and clearly NOT in the antler. That must have been water or dust or whatever else was on the brush that was tangled in the antlers being shaken off with the sunlight hitting it just right.
I'd agree that isn't a great video for marketing but only because folks jump to their own conclusions, just like this thread is proving. I'd also have explained and cleared that misconception up at the end of the video before posting it on YouTube, but that is just me, I guess. It may not have mattered though as people here likely wouldn't bother finish watching it before responding just like they don't read follow up responses on threads.
I am outie, got a moose tag and know where a spike fork yearling bull has been hanging out. Hopefully he has crossed onto public. Flame away, I guess.
Play the video slowly and really check it out at 1:24. The 2nd bullet impact is solidly and clearly NOT in the antler. That must have been water or dust or whatever else was on the brush that was tangled in the antlers being shaken off with the sunlight hitting it just right.
I'd agree that isn't a great video for marketing but only because folks jump to their own conclusions, just like this thread is proving. I'd also have explained and cleared that misconception up at the end of the video before posting it on YouTube, but that is just me, I guess. It may not have mattered though as people here likely wouldn't bother finish watching it before responding just like they don't read follow up responses on threads.
I am outie, got a moose tag and know where a spike fork yearling bull has been hanging out. Hopefully he has crossed onto public. Flame away, I guess.
I have shot exactly 1 big bull at long range.... with a 338 and a Reupold 4X... state of the art stuff back in the day.... I guess he was about as far as Johns bull. My first shot blew a tine clear off! stunned him so bad he stood there confused, got closer and finished him off... sure glad we didn't have video back then....
Gee, I wonder why the only pics Johnny posts are the head and skull. Could it be that the poor bull had more holes than a block of Swiss cheese by the time he was dead?
Johnny likely had to reload after the barrage and figured it would be a good time to stop the camera.
Gee, I wonder why the only pics Johnny posts are the head and skull. Could it be that the poor bull had more holes than a block of Swiss cheese by the time he was dead?
Johnny likely had to reload after the barrage and figured it would be a good time to stop the camera.
Gee, I wonder why the only pics Johnny posts are the head and skull. Could it be that the poor bull had more holes than a block of Swiss cheese by the time he was dead?
Johnny likely had to reload after the barrage and figured it would be a good time to stop the camera.
Gee, I wonder why the only pics Johnny posts are the head and skull. Could it be that the poor bull had more holes than a block of Swiss cheese by the time he was dead?
Johnny likely had to reload after the barrage and figured it would be a good time to stop the camera.
Not sure what you were watching and I'm by no means mathematics astute, but I can count! Three rounds downrange for a bull on the ground is what I observed.
Play the video slowly and really check it out at 1:24. The 2nd bullet impact is solidly and clearly NOT in the antler. That must have been water or dust or whatever else was on the brush that was tangled in the antlers being shaken off with the sunlight hitting it just right.
I'd agree that isn't a great video for marketing but only because folks jump to their own conclusions, just like this thread is proving. I'd also have explained and cleared that misconception up at the end of the video before posting it on YouTube, but that is just me, I guess. It may not have mattered though as people here likely wouldn't bother finish watching it before responding just like they don't read follow up responses on threads.
I am outie, got a moose tag and know where a spike fork yearling bull has been hanging out. Hopefully he has crossed onto public. Flame away, I guess.
Shoot him through the horn for braggin rights....
Exactly, then call it vital. That still picture is at 1:24 and there isn’t enough water in a branch to make a vapor cloud like that. That is horn and nothing else, but I did learn that a horn is now vital…
And since you mentioned the Mark 5, here’s how the one my buddy has did on evaluation.
Gunsmith says it’s the most perfect scope he’s seen since my Mark 4 M5A2
In fairness, that report simply shows that the turret adjustment increments are as advertised and that the PA and magnification don't alter POI, but says nothing about the zero retention or repeatability of the scope.
If I'm interpreting it correctly, the last line seems to say that the scope tracks straight and that the reticle isn't canted, though I could be wrong about that. If I'm correct, that's a good start. It is nice to see that reported properties are as hoped for when a guy buys a scope.
Play the video slowly and really check it out at 1:24. The 2nd bullet impact is solidly and clearly NOT in the antler. That must have been water or dust or whatever else was on the brush that was tangled in the antlers being shaken off with the sunlight hitting it just right.
I'd agree that isn't a great video for marketing but only because folks jump to their own conclusions, just like this thread is proving. I'd also have explained and cleared that misconception up at the end of the video before posting it on YouTube, but that is just me, I guess. It may not have mattered though as people here likely wouldn't bother finish watching it before responding just like they don't read follow up responses on threads.
I am outie, got a moose tag and know where a spike fork yearling bull has been hanging out. Hopefully he has crossed onto public. Flame away, I guess.
Shoot him through the horn for braggin rights....
Exactly, then call it vital. That still picture is at 1:24 and there isn’t enough water in a branch to make a vapor cloud like that. That is horn and nothing else, but I did learn that a horn is now vital…
Damn but you are stupid.
HD video frame by frame shows the impact in the chest that shakes the whole bull.
Not taking sides here, but it looks to me that the bullet struck the onside base of the neck, shaking dust from the off side of the mane and dropping debris from the antlers.
I've not mounted a NIB scope on a rifle,since nearly 48hrs ago. That mainly due to the fact that it blew 80 yesterday and rained 3"+. Though I actually fhuqking SHOT the rifle,wearing said glass and then hammered come-ups at 1K+. Hint.
It likely weren't an in "spec" 6 MOA Reupold Wandering Piece Of Schit. Hint.
Not taking sides here, but it looks to me that the bullet struck the onside base of the neck, shaking dust from the off side of the mane and dropping debris from the antlers.
Well we know you're consistent and can read trace.
From a few years back when the tards got riled up cause they can't read trace in that video.
Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
John,
Beauty bull!
Just watched the video, scrubbing back and forth over the shots a few times. From the looks of things, it's really difficult to see the trace or impact on the first shot, due to the bull making it to the edge of the camera's FOV when the shot was released (pard took hands off the camera for a minute to work the cow call, I assume). In your photo, however, you can see what must be the first shot, and based on the angle of the photo it looks to be a high, slightly rear lung shot, just under the spine. As you say, a bit more lead wouldn't have hurt, but not a terrible shot. In the vid, the second shot was at a quartering toward and left presentation, and the trace showed the bullet hitting somewhere on the outside left of the neck area, which appears to be a flesh wound in the neck muscle. The third shot showed an impact that I assume was a bit further forward than intended, perhaps a bit too much lead on the walking bull in compensation for the first shot which hit a little further back than you wanted, and hit the front edge of the shoulder, a bit above the center line of the body. The shot must have come very close to the spine or hit it, since the bull's legs folded up immediately as it went down.
Sound about right? Any pics of the 2nd or 3rd shots on the bull?
Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
Okay, loaded the vid on Youtube, turned the vid up to maximum 720p resolution on my 24" Samsung monitor, and slowed playback speed to 0.25x. The trace and impact on that second shot is still a left side of neck shot to me.
Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
Thanks. That's about what I thought I saw- the trace led straight into the mane, but I suppose the quartering angle was a bit more than it appeared, and even the mane shot angled into the chest.
Play the video slowly and really check it out at 1:24. The 2nd bullet impact is solidly and clearly NOT in the antler. That must have been water or dust or whatever else was on the brush that was tangled in the antlers being shaken off with the sunlight hitting it just right.
I'd agree that isn't a great video for marketing but only because folks jump to their own conclusions, just like this thread is proving. I'd also have explained and cleared that misconception up at the end of the video before posting it on YouTube, but that is just me, I guess. It may not have mattered though as people here likely wouldn't bother finish watching it before responding just like they don't read follow up responses on threads.
I am outie, got a moose tag and know where a spike fork yearling bull has been hanging out. Hopefully he has crossed onto public. Flame away, I guess.
Shoot him through the horn for braggin rights....
Exactly, then call it vital. That still picture is at 1:24 and there isn’t enough water in a branch to make a vapor cloud like that. That is horn and nothing else, but I did learn that a horn is now vital…
Damn but you are stupid.
HD video frame by frame shows the impact in the chest that shakes the whole bull.
Photos of the horn clearly show no impact.
Clearly! What a piece of lying $hit you are. Dust always flies off of the horns when your shoot him in the neck.
If you use the the same eyes to make your rifles that you use to see impact, there is nothing safe coming out of your garage where you put together those great rifles.
You never disappoint;
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
If only we had pictures of the bull head and skull.
You and Hilary seem to NOT keep all the good evidence, ie Rose Law Firm papers
Originally Posted by Shrappy Baldwin unsafe gun handler
Solid hit? That isn't a branch that the dust is coming from. That bull's head is turned to his right at the impact and that is a solid hit alright, solid horn...
Originally Posted by Shrappy Baldwin unsafe gun handler
Exactly, then call it vital. That still picture is at 1:24 and there isn’t enough water in a branch to make a vapor cloud like that. That is horn and nothing else, but I did learn that a horn is now vital…
Originally Posted by Shrappy Baldwin unsafe gun handler
Clearly! What a piece of lying $hit you are. Dust always flies off of the horns when your shoot him in the neck.
If you use the the same eyes to make your rifles that you use to see impact, there is nothing safe coming out of your garage where you put together those great rifles.
You never disappoint;
You and Hilary seem to NOT keep all the good evidence, ie Rose Law Firm papers
When you sober up ask Barsness to explain the video to you and how to read trace.
Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Jordan,
I did the same thing, running the video several times, and it looked to me like the second hit, when the bull was more-or-less facing, was just inside the elk's left shoulder. Will also be interested to hear.
Originally Posted by Mule Deer
John,
Thanks for the additional info. That's where it looked like the second shot hit to me.
Also thanks for the info on the meat. What was the date?
I’m going to have to go with Burns on this one. It sure looks to me that the shot in question hits very near the line where the light and dark hair come together in the neck/shoulder. I have no guesses on what caused the cloud/spray but I think it’s the vegetation in his antlers that falls of when he hits the ground.
I’m going to have to go with Burns on this one. It sure looks to me that the shot in question hits very near the line where the light and dark hair come together in the neck/shoulder. I have no guesses on what caused the cloud/spray but I think it’s the vegetation in his antlers that falls of when he hits the ground.
Exactly, then call it vital. That still picture is at 1:24 and there isn’t enough water in a branch to make a vapor cloud like that. That is horn and nothing else, but I did learn that a horn is now vital…
Dude…just stop. This is embarrassing, even for your standards.
Have you ever actually seen an antler that has been rifle shot? It splinters and blows chunks out, not dust sized particles. Nothing like what that video shows.
Exactly, then call it vital. That still picture is at 1:24 and there isn’t enough water in a branch to make a vapor cloud like that. That is horn and nothing else, but I did learn that a horn is now vital…
Dude…just stop. This is embarrassing, even for your standards.
Have you ever actually seen an antler that has been rifle shot? It splinters and blows chunks out, not dust sized particles. Nothing like what that video shows.
Exactly, then call it vital. That still picture is at 1:24 and there isn’t enough water in a branch to make a vapor cloud like that. That is horn and nothing else, but I did learn that a horn is now vital…
Dude…just stop. This is embarrassing, even for your standards.
Have you ever actually seen an antler that has been rifle shot? It splinters and blows chunks out, not dust sized particles. Nothing like what that video shows.
And the bottom line is who gives a fuqk?
I see a pic of JB with an AWESOME bull that anyone here would give their left nut to put on the ground.
Oh, I know. The yipping pack of schitzu’s just frothing at the mouth to nitpick and to find anything less than perfect, which is typical for a bunch of gaslighting losers that have to criticize to make their pathetic selves feel better.
If anyone is claiming nothing but one-shot kills all of their lives, they’re a lying sack of chit.
Exactly, then call it vital. That still picture is at 1:24 and there isn’t enough water in a branch to make a vapor cloud like that. That is horn and nothing else, but I did learn that a horn is now vital…
Dude…just stop. This is embarrassing, even for your standards.
Have you ever actually seen an antler that has been rifle shot? It splinters and blows chunks out, not dust sized particles. Nothing like what that video shows.
Exactly, then call it vital. That still picture is at 1:24 and there isn’t enough water in a branch to make a vapor cloud like that. That is horn and nothing else, but I did learn that a horn is now vital…
Dude…just stop. This is embarrassing, even for your standards.
Have you ever actually seen an antler that has been rifle shot? It splinters and blows chunks out, not dust sized particles. Nothing like what that video shows.
How did the moose hunting go Daniel Boone?
Typical Campfire response, though one I have come to expect. Deflect from a question with an unrelated comment or another question.
I never saw the little guy I was after, but tomorrow is another day. I had two cows at less than 30 yards but this is a spike-fork or greater hunt, and they were on the wrong side of the property line anyhow. No biggie.
Some of it unwarranted, but a lot is self inflicted.
Originally Posted by rickt300
Burns seems to draw fire no matter what.
Those are pretty much my thoughts on the matter. He doesn't do his business any favors on here, but he is totally aware of that when he posts, and that is just fine. Like Big Stick, he gets a kick out of getting people worked up. I find it entertaining.
The freedom to generally post what you want is the main reason I am at the 'fire, and no other hunting site on the WWW, at least not regularly.
He doesn't do his business any favors on here, but he is totally aware of that when he posts…
I don’t see how you can say that unless you’ve been effected by the continual, unfounded slander from the few goobers who just need to get a life.
Fair enough.
Giving simple explanations (which he has done, sometimes) and not egging them on would be a start, but like I said...I like the banter so I am all about keeping things as is.
Some of it unwarranted, but a lot is self inflicted.
Originally Posted by rickt300
Burns seems to draw fire no matter what.
Those are pretty much my thoughts on the matter. He doesn't do his business any favors on here, but he is totally aware of that when he posts, and that is just fine. Like Big Stick, he gets a kick out of getting people worked up. I find it entertaining.
The freedom to generally post what you want is the main reason I am at the 'fire, and no other hunting site on the WWW.
Burns schtick has always been shameless self promotion, ie, name dropping, embellishing his stories, pretending to be an industry player… If you’re trying to make your living by doing what you love (hunting) it’s one of the easier choices. He came on here and thought that as a site sponsor he had license to talk scheit unchecked. When he found out he didn’t he acted like a little bitch. Honestly, his persona on here probably isn’t alienating too large of a portion of his customer base, since his customer base is relatively small anyway. I would’ve never heard of him or his business if it wouldn’t have been for his “hey look at me!” Style, so I guess to some degree it works. Negative attention is still attention.
IMHO, there are a lot better paths to garner the attention/success he do desperately wants. Lots of examples right here on this board.
IMHO, there are a lot better paths to garner the attention/success he do desperately wants. Lots of examples right here on this board.
Well making you start 10 threads about me also works pretty well.
Thanks for the bump.
Did you find a man to mansplain shooting bulls in the chest, Blondie?
You just proved my point. LOL
You shot 1.5-2 MOA if I’m guessing correctly. If you think anyone believes you were trying to hit that bull off to the left, high shoulder/base of the neck you’re delusional. Your point of impact was in a 7 1/2” - 10” Variance of your POA.
IMHO, there are a lot better paths to garner the attention/success he do desperately wants. Lots of examples right here on this board.
Well making you start 10 threads about me also works pretty well.
Thanks for the bump.
Did you find a man to mansplain shooting bulls in the chest, Blondie?
Originally Posted by jackmountain
Originally Posted by rcamuglia
Originally Posted by T_Inman
He doesn't do his business any favors on here, but he is totally aware of that when he posts…
I don’t see how you can say that unless you’ve been effected by the continual, unfounded slander from the few goobers who just need to get a life.
If you continually get negative reactions you need to rethink your actions. Sometimes a little humility goes a long way.
A WIZARD ain't got time for your female sensitivities.
Suck it up, Blondie, and wash the sand out of your coochie.
You’re the only one reacting on an emotional level, except for Rick of course. LOL. 4 more days til you can give Kyle a free hunt with a free gun and free ammo and get some new pics to hang finally. Photoshop the 2005 you into the pic for bonus points rock star.
I proved you don't know anything about shooting elk and are incapable of learning.
For a doushe whimpering about humility it's dully noted you have yet to admit your stupidity and inability to simply watch a video.
I’m glad you said “shooting” elk and not “hunting” elk and if “learning” means how to maim a game animal with three extremely marginal shots, then yeah, I ain’t learning real well.
IMHO, there are a lot better paths to garner the attention/success he do desperately wants. Lots of examples right here on this board.
Well making you start 10 threads about me also works pretty well.
Thanks for the bump.
Did you find a man to mansplain shooting bulls in the chest, Blondie?
Originally Posted by jackmountain
Originally Posted by rcamuglia
Originally Posted by T_Inman
He doesn't do his business any favors on here, but he is totally aware of that when he posts…
I don’t see how you can say that unless you’ve been effected by the continual, unfounded slander from the few goobers who just need to get a life.
If you continually get negative reactions you need to rethink your actions. Sometimes a little humility goes a long way.
A WIZARD ain't got time for your female sensitivities.
Suck it up, Blondie, and wash the sand out of your coochie.
You’re the only one reacting on an emotional level, except for Rick of course. LOL. 4 more days til you can give Kyle a free hunt with a free gun and free ammo and get some new pics to hang finally. Photoshop the 2005 you into the pic for bonus points rock star.
IMHO, there are a lot better paths to garner the attention/success he do desperately wants. Lots of examples right here on this board.
Well making you start 10 threads about me also works pretty well.
Thanks for the bump.
Did you find a man to mansplain shooting bulls in the chest, Blondie?
Originally Posted by jackmountain
Originally Posted by rcamuglia
Originally Posted by T_Inman
He doesn't do his business any favors on here, but he is totally aware of that when he posts…
I don’t see how you can say that unless you’ve been effected by the continual, unfounded slander from the few goobers who just need to get a life.
If you continually get negative reactions you need to rethink your actions. Sometimes a little humility goes a long way.
A WIZARD ain't got time for your female sensitivities.
Suck it up, Blondie, and wash the sand out of your coochie.
You’re the only one reacting on an emotional level, except for Rick of course. LOL. 4 more days til you can give Kyle a free hunt with a free gun and free ammo and get some new pics to hang finally. Photoshop the 2005 you into the pic for bonus points rock star.
How many shots did it take for that one? Did your spotter have a Fugkin clue that day? “In the head….right in the antler, right in the head”
Exactly, then call it vital. That still picture is at 1:24 and there isn’t enough water in a branch to make a vapor cloud like that. That is horn and nothing else, but I did learn that a horn is now vital…
Dude…just stop. This is embarrassing, even for your standards.
Have you ever actually seen an antler that has been rifle shot? It splinters and blows chunks out, not dust sized particles. Nothing like what that video shows.
And the bottom line is who gives a fuqk?
I see a pic of JB with an AWESOME bull that anyone here would give their left nut to put on the ground.
Oh, I know. The yipping pack of schitzu’s just frothing at the mouth to nitpick and to find anything less than perfect, which is typical for a bunch of gaslighting losers that have to criticize to make their pathetic selves feel better.
If anyone is claiming nothing but one-shot kills all of their lives, they’re a lying sack of chit.
IMHO, there are a lot better paths to garner the attention/success he do desperately wants. Lots of examples right here on this board.
Well making you start 10 threads about me also works pretty well.
Thanks for the bump.
Did you find a man to mansplain shooting bulls in the chest, Blondie?
Originally Posted by jackmountain
Originally Posted by rcamuglia
Originally Posted by T_Inman
He doesn't do his business any favors on here, but he is totally aware of that when he posts…
I don’t see how you can say that unless you’ve been effected by the continual, unfounded slander from the few goobers who just need to get a life.
If you continually get negative reactions you need to rethink your actions. Sometimes a little humility goes a long way.
A WIZARD ain't got time for your female sensitivities.
Suck it up, Blondie, and wash the sand out of your coochie.
You’re the only one reacting on an emotional level, except for Rick of course. LOL. 4 more days til you can give Kyle a free hunt with a free gun and free ammo and get some new pics to hang finally. Photoshop the 2005 you into the pic for bonus points rock star.
Could be Rick is boot licking to get a free hunt from Burns?
IMHO, there are a lot better paths to garner the attention/success he do desperately wants. Lots of examples right here on this board.
Well making you start 10 threads about me also works pretty well.
Thanks for the bump.
Did you find a man to mansplain shooting bulls in the chest, Blondie?
Originally Posted by jackmountain
Originally Posted by rcamuglia
Originally Posted by T_Inman
He doesn't do his business any favors on here, but he is totally aware of that when he posts…
I don’t see how you can say that unless you’ve been effected by the continual, unfounded slander from the few goobers who just need to get a life.
If you continually get negative reactions you need to rethink your actions. Sometimes a little humility goes a long way.
A WIZARD ain't got time for your female sensitivities.
Suck it up, Blondie, and wash the sand out of your coochie.
You’re the only one reacting on an emotional level, except for Rick of course. LOL. 4 more days til you can give Kyle a free hunt with a free gun and free ammo and get some new pics to hang finally. Photoshop the 2005 you into the pic for bonus points rock star.
Could be Rick is boot licking to get a free hunt from Burns?
Lol. Shoot a pole full of does out of alfalfa fields?
That sounds great to me.
It’s the part where you have to climb up on some boulders and take a posed photo that would make a group of fat chicks at a bachelorette party jealous that gets me.
Lol. Shoot a pole full of does out of alfalfa fields?
That sounds great to me.
It’s the part where you have to climb up on some boulders and take a posed photo that would make a group of fat chicks at a bachelorette party jealous that gets me.
Don't fret it.
The Kewl guys had no intention of inviting you.
Lets call that a win win.
Lots of Leupold and lots of fun. But some Vortex sneaked in.
many years ago, Stick was fan of the 6x42 leupold, IIRC, mounted on a slicked-up remington 700 in 280 AI, macmillan stock. kind of a recipe for an all-weather medium/big game hunting rifle; as i was on a tight budget,i cobbled a semi copy with a bedded ADL in .270 winchester and a nikon 6x42 and worked trigger; perfect for mid-long alabama deer hunting; a fine recipe indeed. but things change: some optics companies improve, some go downhill; some firearms companies go downhill, better ones appear; bullets improve. so here we are, and Stick has different opinions ...
many years ago, Stick was fan of the 6x42 leupold, IIRC, mounted on a slicked-up remington 700 in 280 AI, macmillan stock. kind of a recipe for an all-weather medium/big game hunting rifle; as i was on a tight budget,i cobbled a semi copy with a bedded ADL in .270 winchester and a nikon 6x42 and worked trigger; perfect for mid-long alabama deer hunting; a fine recipe indeed. but things change: some optics companies improve, some go downhill; some firearms companies go downhill, better ones appear; bullets improve. so here we are, and Stick has different opinions ...
Only an idiot never changes his opinions if the facts point to a different conclusion.
Yeah, but the gunsmith tested it and said it was perfect. All I need to know.
To me, static testing is of dubious value. It's useful to potentially save some ammo and heart ache by seeing if a scope is worth mounting to your rig in the first place, but beyond that, what does it prove?
IME, twisting the dials while the scope is clamped to a static mount isn't what causes scopes to go wonky. How a scope handles recoil, bouncing around on rough roads, accidental falls and/or drops while carrying, etc, are what concerns me.
I liked bringing up the old videos. Had to work yesterday, and this thread was good for some hearty laughs.
JB:
Nice shooting on "the elk" in reference. Seemed clear enough at full speed that the bullets were landing solid. As was pointed out, not a lot of people have a camera following them around to record the good and the bad, and I'd bet that footage of many in action wouldn't hold up too well to thier own scrutiny.
BS:
I greatly appreciate your brand of humor and, more importantly, your approach to testing gear. Who gives a chit if a piece of gear can handle being treated with kid gloves? I get a kick out of the dudes who are quick to point out all of the functionality that they don't expect from their equipment, as if it's some kind of virtue. Thanks for recording some of it for all posterity.
Yeah, but the gunsmith tested it and said it was perfect. All I need to know.
To me, static testing is of dubious value. It's useful to potentially save some ammo and heart ache by seeing if a scope is worth mounting to your rig in the first place, but beyond that, what does it prove?
IME, twisting the dials while the scope is clamped to a static mount isn't what causes scopes to go wonky. How a scope handles recoil, bouncing around on rough roads, accidental falls and/or drops while carrying, etc, are what concerns me.
What it does is show you if the optic works in the first place before you mount it, saving you a lot of BS
Do you think that mounting a scope on your rifle, then going out and shooting it at various ranges tells you anything? How do you know when you dial 3.2 mils, that the scope actually moves the reticle 3.2 mils? How do you tell if your reticle subtentions are accurate?
I guess you just take the manufacturer’s word for it
Yeah, but the gunsmith tested it and said it was perfect. All I need to know.
To me, static testing is of dubious value. It's useful to potentially save some ammo and heart ache by seeing if a scope is worth mounting to your rig in the first place, but beyond that, what does it prove?
IME, twisting the dials while the scope is clamped to a static mount isn't what causes scopes to go wonky. How a scope handles recoil, bouncing around on rough roads, accidental falls and/or drops while carrying, etc, are what concerns me.
What it does is show you if the optic works in the first place before you mount it, saving you a lot of BS
Do you think that mounting a scope on your rifle, then going out and shooting it at various ranges tells you anything? How do you know when you dial 3.2 mils, that the scope actually moves the reticle 3.2 mils? How do you tell if your reticle subtentions are accurate?
I guess you just take the manufacturer’s word for it
🤡
RC:
I see the value of testing before mounting; I stated exactly that in the second sentence of my post.
And, yes, I do think that measuring poi vis a vis poa at various yardages and after dialing a bunch to and fro tells me what I need to know about how well my scope is built and how well it is doing it's job. Actually shooting also introduces recoil, drops, and rough rides on back roads into the testing process.
Do you trust that static testing tells you all you need to know about how well your scope is going to perform with other variables, or do you take it out to confirm by shooting?
It is VERY easy,to simply mount glass,padding inclination as required and secure the system. Hint.
From there,I've seen REAL bullets,from REAL barrels,exhibit REAL results. After zero,I've found it prudent to quantify come-ups,flog on erectors,whirl zoom,actuate parallax control,then rinse and repeat to denote REAL results. Which sadly,is none of the things Reupold will do with sanctity. Hint.
Shiny duds,shiny wares and Pancho Villa bandoleers...ain't the makings of reliable glass,if only obviously. Nor is a 3rd hand "Report",with nary a round fired,or close. Hint.
Yeah, but the gunsmith tested it and said it was perfect. All I need to know.
To me, static testing is of dubious value. It's useful to potentially save some ammo and heart ache by seeing if a scope is worth mounting to your rig in the first place, but beyond that, what does it prove?
IME, twisting the dials while the scope is clamped to a static mount isn't what causes scopes to go wonky. How a scope handles recoil, bouncing around on rough roads, accidental falls and/or drops while carrying, etc, are what concerns me.
What it does is show you if the optic works in the first place before you mount it, saving you a lot of BS
Do you think that mounting a scope on your rifle, then going out and shooting it at various ranges tells you anything? How do you know when you dial 3.2 mils, that the scope actually moves the reticle 3.2 mils? How do you tell if your reticle subtentions are accurate?
I guess you just take the manufacturer’s word for it
🤡
RC:
I see the value of testing before mounting; I stated exactly that in the second sentence of my post.
And, yes, I do think that measuring poi vis a vis poa at various yardages and after dialing a bunch to and fro tells me what I need to know about how well my scope is built and how well it is doing it's job. Actually shooting also introduces recoil, drops, and rough rides on back roads into the testing process.
Do you trust that static testing tells you all you need to know about how well your scope is going to perform with other variables, or do you take it out to confirm by shooting?
Of course you shoot, but it’s nice to know any POA/POI problems you may encounter aren’t due to the scope.
Do you trust that static testing tells you all you need to know about how well your scope is going to perform with other variables, or do you take it out to confirm by shooting?
That was never typed by Rick and you seem to understand that testing the optic is the first step with shooting/field use being the second.
Much of this thread is a result of the OPs and others lack of experience reading trace and spotting impacts.
The Elk video is a great test if someone has the basics of LR shooting. A few very vocal fail Bots and lots pass in the thread.
If a LiL Fish or a Shrappy Baldwin or a Jackoffmt can't read trace and spot impacts watching HD video frame by frame why would anyone listen to their advice on optics.
Always wrong but never in doubt posters is part of the 24HR CF.
A static scope,mounted in a static fixture,is not going to "reveal" anything. Though in fairness,I've only seen (3) NIB Reupolds puke in a single day,on their Maiden Voyage. I've more faith in what projectiles reveal in Real World POA/POI,rather than some warm/fuzzy platform,that is not the rifle affixed to it. Hint.
I reckon if FORCED to suffer Reupold,the approach may be of merit,in the hopes of finding a "winner". Hint................
A static scope,mounted in a static fixture,is not going to "reveal" anything. Though in fairness,I've only seen (3) NIB Reupolds puke in a single day,on their Maiden Voyage. I've more faith in what projectiles reveal in Real World POA/POI,rather than some warm/fuzzy platform,that is not the rifle affixed to it. Hint.
I reckon if FORCED to suffer Reupold,the approach may be of merit,in the hopes of finding a "winner". Hint................
You would well served by starting at the start to build a skill set that allows one to evaluate hunting optic.
I suggest you read a "Reading Trace and Spotting Impacts" book.
Maybe attend "Reading Trace and Spotting Impacts" summer camp and take lots of notes.
Here is a great example for you to study. Shrappy Baldwin and Jackoffmt, same applies to you both.
Do you trust that static testing tells you all you need to know about how well your scope is going to perform with other variables, or do you take it out to confirm by shooting?
That was never typed by Rick and you seem to understand that testing the optic is the first step with shooting/field use being the second.
Much of this thread is a result of the OPs and others lack of experience reading trace and spotting impacts.
The Elk video is a great test if someone has the basics of LR shooting. A few very vocal fail Bots and lots pass in the thread.
If a LiL Fish or a Shrappy Baldwin or a Jackoffmt can't read trace and spot impacts watching HD video frame by frame why would anyone listen to their advice on optics.
Always wrong but never in doubt posters is part of the 24HR CF.
JB:
To clear up confusion, RC did ask if I thought mounting a scope and then going out and shooting actually proved anything. This was followed by a question from RC of if I just trusted the manufacturer. Based on these statements, as a logical retort in the line of questioning, I asked the question you quoted.
Do you trust that static testing tells you all you need to know about how well your scope is going to perform with other variables, or do you take it out to confirm by shooting?
That was never typed by Rick and you seem to understand that testing the optic is the first step with shooting/field use being the second. Much of this thread is a result of the OPs and others lack of experience reading trace and spotting impacts. The Elk video is a great test if someone has the basics of LR shooting. A few very vocal fail Bots and lots pass in the thread. If a LiL Fish or a Shrappy Baldwin or a Jackoffmt can't read trace and spot impacts watching HD video frame by frame why would anyone listen to their advice on optics. Always wrong but never in doubt posters is part of the 24HR CF.
JB:
To clear up confusion, RC did ask if I thought mounting a scope and then going out and shooting actually proved anything. This was followed by a question from RC of if I just trusted the manufacturer. Based on these statements, as a logical retort in the line of questioning, I asked the question you quoted.
Rick was already on record about that but maybe you missed his posts.
Point is that if a shooter has access to a static test setup it's smart to test the optic before spending rounds.
We test everything on a collimator for reticle level, adjustments in both increment and range, zoom and focus run out, and reticle substension before shooting.
Your post was perfectly clear. A couple would argue with a picket fence.
Originally Posted by Starbuck
Originally Posted by jackmountain
Yeah, but the gunsmith tested it and said it was perfect. All I need to know.
To me, static testing is of dubious value. It's useful to potentially save some ammo and heart ache by seeing if a scope is worth mounting to your rig in the first place, but beyond that, what does it prove?
IME, twisting the dials while the scope is clamped to a static mount isn't what causes scopes to go wonky. How a scope handles recoil, bouncing around on rough roads, accidental falls and/or drops while carrying, etc, are what concerns me.
Yeah, but the gunsmith tested it and said it was perfect. All I need to know.
To me, static testing is of dubious value. It's useful to potentially save some ammo and heart ache by seeing if a scope is worth mounting to your rig in the first place, but beyond that, what does it prove?
IME, twisting the dials while the scope is clamped to a static mount isn't what causes scopes to go wonky. How a scope handles recoil, bouncing around on rough roads, accidental falls and/or drops while carrying, etc, are what concerns me.
What it does is show you if the optic works in the first place before you mount it, saving you a lot of BS
Do you think that mounting a scope on your rifle, then going out and shooting it at various ranges tells you anything? How do you know when you dial 3.2 mils, that the scope actually moves the reticle 3.2 mils? How do you tell if your reticle subtentions are accurate?
I guess you just take the manufacturer’s word for it
🤡
RC:
I see the value of testing before mounting; I stated exactly that in the second sentence of my post.
And, yes, I do think that measuring poi vis a vis poa at various yardages and after dialing a bunch to and fro tells me what I need to know about how well my scope is built and how well it is doing it's job. Actually shooting also introduces recoil, drops, and rough rides on back roads into the testing process.
Do you trust that static testing tells you all you need to know about how well your scope is going to perform with other variables, or do you take it out to confirm by shooting?
Of course you shoot, but it’s nice to know any POA/POI problems you may encounter aren’t due to the scope.
I wouldn't go that far, as recoil and environmental factors can cause scopes to misbehave that seemed fine in a static fixture in a controlled climate. But static testing can be considered a first step in proving a scope's mechanical function and integrity, revealing any glaring issues before the shooting in real environments begins.
Your post was perfectly clear. A couple would argue with a picket fence.
Originally Posted by Starbuck
Originally Posted by jackmountain
Yeah, but the gunsmith tested it and said it was perfect. All I need to know.
To me, static testing is of dubious value. It's useful to potentially save some ammo and heart ache by seeing if a scope is worth mounting to your rig in the first place, but beyond that, what does it prove?
IME, twisting the dials while the scope is clamped to a static mount isn't what causes scopes to go wonky. How a scope handles recoil, bouncing around on rough roads, accidental falls and/or drops while carrying, etc, are what concerns me.
You should quote some one arguing with that post.
Although a scope that has issues in static testing most likely won't get better in the field.
Your post was perfectly clear. A couple would argue with a picket fence.
Originally Posted by Starbuck
Originally Posted by jackmountain
Yeah, but the gunsmith tested it and said it was perfect. All I need to know.
To me, static testing is of dubious value. It's useful to potentially save some ammo and heart ache by seeing if a scope is worth mounting to your rig in the first place, but beyond that, what does it prove?
IME, twisting the dials while the scope is clamped to a static mount isn't what causes scopes to go wonky. How a scope handles recoil, bouncing around on rough roads, accidental falls and/or drops while carrying, etc, are what concerns me.
A lot of exchanges here on the Campfire, especially in the Optics Section remind me of a hockey game some friends and I attended back in the day in Fairbanks. To set the stage, there is a drinking side, and a non-drinking side of the rink. Let’s call the drinking side the Optics Forum, and yes, this is where we always sat.
There had been many beers consumed (similar to many exchanged conversations on the forum). Our row of people was having a continued beef going on with the row of jaggoffs directly below us (Just for JB, they were some Army folks with the ringleader being a SF instructor). They would continually keep standing up so we couldn’t see the game - kind of like some people singing the same old story line in the Optics Forum.
This led to a continued heated exchange of “Sit the F down” with responses of “shut the F up and mind your own business” with neither side really hearing the other. No addresses, no lunch invitations were needed if we were going to mix it up. All were in the zip code at the moment. Only the women in both rows were trying to be sensible and calm things down. I wasn’t wild about mixing it up with Mr. Badazz, but I wasn’t taking any schitt either or backing down and I knew I’d be carrying most of the water, drunk or sober.
Towards the end of the game, my friend Dave was just screaming at the people below us to SIT DOWN!!! Well, turns out they had finally sat down, but ol’ Dave was too drunk for that fact to register. Read that again, then again, and let it sink in. <grin>
PUNCHLINE: Always helps to listen (or read thoroughly) before responding regardless of how big of an azzhole you are dealing with.
Your post was perfectly clear. A couple would argue with a picket fence.
Originally Posted by Starbuck
Originally Posted by jackmountain
Yeah, but the gunsmith tested it and said it was perfect. All I need to know.
To me, static testing is of dubious value. It's useful to potentially save some ammo and heart ache by seeing if a scope is worth mounting to your rig in the first place, but beyond that, what does it prove?
IME, twisting the dials while the scope is clamped to a static mount isn't what causes scopes to go wonky. How a scope handles recoil, bouncing around on rough roads, accidental falls and/or drops while carrying, etc, are what concerns me.
You should quote some one arguing with that post.
Although a scope that has issues in static testing most likely won't get better in the field.
Leupold Virtues.
couple things John
1st: what is the field rest you use, that looks pretty handy
2nd: that second shot on the bull hit the neck, no question about it.
many years ago, Stick was fan of the 6x42 leupold, IIRC, mounted on a slicked-up remington 700 in 280 AI, macmillan stock. kind of a recipe for an all-weather medium/big game hunting rifle; as i was on a tight budget,i cobbled a semi copy with a bedded ADL in .270 winchester and a nikon 6x42 and worked trigger; perfect for mid-long alabama deer hunting; a fine recipe indeed. but things change: some optics companies improve, some go downhill; some firearms companies go downhill, better ones appear; bullets improve. so here we are, and Stick has different opinions ...
I remember decades ago , all gold rings at my gun club. It was standard operating procedure to make an adjustment, then tap the erector. Then hope it tracked.
Troll is still working on his scrub buck total to get halfway to the number of points you have in that picture. Damn nice bucks
Your right you know. You really can see they guys who do in this thread verses the guys that can’t. It’s hard to argue with the point count! You have to hand it to Tasco though, they’ve run a hell of a gorilla marketing campaign until people started to catch on!
Troll is still working on his scrub buck total to get halfway to the number of points you have in that picture. Damn nice bucks
Your right you know. You really can see they guys who do in this thread verses the guys that can’t. It’s hard to argue with the point count! You have to hand it to Tasco though, they’ve run a hell of a gorilla marketing campaign until people started to catch on!
Sorry to bust your bubble friend, I’ve been reading these forums since before it ever migrated to 24hr campfire, back when Sonny and BCR where staples, and BS was very helpful. I don’t mind saying he even started me on the blue bullets way back when. It sad to see how far it’s fallen.
Do you trust that static testing tells you all you need to know about how well your scope is going to perform with other variables, or do you take it out to confirm by shooting?
That was never typed by Rick and you seem to understand that testing the optic is the first step with shooting/field use being the second.
Much of this thread is a result of the OPs and others lack of experience reading trace and spotting impacts. The Elk video is a great test if someone has the basics of LR shooting. A few very vocal fail Bots and lots pass in the thread.
If a LiL Fish or a Shrappy Baldwin or a Jackoffmt can't read trace and spot impacts watching HD video frame by frame why would anyone listen to their advice on optics.
Always wrong but never in doubt posters is part of the 24HR CF.
Do you trust that static testing tells you all you need to know about how well your scope is going to perform with other variables, or do you take it out to confirm by shooting?
That was never typed by Rick and you seem to understand that testing the optic is the first step with shooting/field use being the second. Much of this thread is a result of the OPs and others lack of experience reading trace and spotting impacts. The Elk video is a great test if someone has the basics of LR shooting. A few very vocal fail Bots and lots pass in the thread. If a LiL Fish or a Shrappy Baldwin or a Jackoffmt can't read trace and spot impacts watching HD video frame by frame why would anyone listen to their advice on optics. Always wrong but never in doubt posters is part of the 24HR CF.
JB:
To clear up confusion, RC did ask if I thought mounting a scope and then going out and shooting actually proved anything. This was followed by a question from RC of if I just trusted the manufacturer. Based on these statements, as a logical retort in the line of questioning, I asked the question you quoted.
Rick was already on record about that but maybe you missed his posts.
Point is that if a shooter has access to a static test setup it's smart to test the optic before spending rounds.
We test everything on a collimator for reticle level, adjustments in both increment and range, zoom and focus run out, and reticle substension before shooting.
Leupold Virtues.
When was the last time you saw a “straight” man with so many pics of other dudes on his phone?
I want to apologize to Mr Burns. I watched the video on my IPhone and going by what his spotter commented made a judgement.
I have not watched the video on a big screen in slow motion but several have and state that all 3 shots hit the animal.
Great Bull
All good.
The video is very useful for sifting wheat from chaff.
Self proclaimed LR shooters, like LiL Fish or Shrappy Baldin, who can't read trace or impact are not the best source for optic selection.
It always starts and end the same way when I post that video and helps newer guys to sort out talkers from those with real world experience.
Visual persuasion is the most lasting.
Leupold Virtues.
You couldn’t even separate the wheat from the chaff when choosing a spotter in that vid you posted which is what started the whole thing you idiot. “In the head…. In the antler, right in the head.”
I want to apologize to Mr Burns. I watched the video on my IPhone and going by what his spotter commented made a judgement.
I have not watched the video on a big screen in slow motion but several have and state that all 3 shots hit the animal.
Great Bull
1 down ^^^^^, how many to go?
LOL
I would think you have a lot more Important scheit to be concerned about than what’s going on in the optics forum with being about to be stripped of your rights to defend yourself. Big surprise, the state that doesn’t trust you to pump your own Fugkin gas doesn’t trust you with more than 10 rds at a time, and then, only in your own home.
The video is very useful for sifting wheat from chaff.
Self proclaimed LR shooters, like LiL Fish or Shrappy Baldin, who can't read trace or impact are not the best source for optic selection.
It always starts and end the same way when I post that video and helps newer guys to sort out talkers from those with real world experience.
Visual persuasion is the most lasting.
Leupold Virtues. You couldn’t even separate the wheat from the chaff when choosing a spotter in that vid you posted which is what started the whole thing you idiot. “In the head…. In the antler, right in the head.”
The intensity of you're whine leads one to believe your getting CHAFF blown in you're couchie and that must be worse than sand in you're coochie.
Originally Posted by Jackoffmt with CHAFF in her couchie
Originally Posted by Fireball2
Originally Posted by Crappie_Killer
I want to apologize to Mr Burns. I watched the video on my IPhone and going by what his spotter commented made a judgement. I have not watched the video on a big screen in slow motion but several have and state that all 3 shots hit the animal.
Great Bull
1 down ^^^^^, how many to go?
LOL
I would think you have a lot more Important scheit to be concerned about than what’s going on in the optics forum with being about to be stripped of your rights to defend yourself. Big surprise, the state that doesn’t trust you to pump your own Fugkin gas doesn’t trust you with more than 10 rds at a time, and then, only in your own home.
Originally Posted by bellydeep
When was the last time you saw a “straight” man with so many pics of other dudes on his phone?
And how many are <18????
How tell the class nobody wants to hunt with you and you don't have friends who hunt, but by using different words.
I've got a few Leupold Virtue shots but I'm not going down that rabbithole.
Did anyone notice how Jack switched up his schtick to attacking Oregon when he gets shut down? LOL
Same old same old with these campfire trolls, attack the messenger rather than admit you were wrong about your message. Does anyone else find it ironic that the dozen or so guys on the campfire that do nothing but attack other people can never admit they were wrong, and never contribute anything of substance besides drunken rants and slander?
Those people are the real problem, not some guy that kills schit dead at 1000 yards.
BTW, haven't said it yet but damn good shooting Burns. Shooting anything beyond 125 yards is foreign to most of these critics so just ignore the clowns.
I've got a few Leupold Virtue shots but I'm not going down that rabbithole.
Did anyone notice how Jack switched up his schtick to attacking Oregon when he gets shut down? LOL
Same old same old with these campfire trolls, attack the messenger rather than admit you were wrong about your message. Does anyone else find it ironic that the dozen or so guys on the campfire that do nothing but attack other people can never admit they were wrong, and never contribute anything of substance besides drunken rants and slander?
Those people are the real problem, not some guy that kills schit dead at 1000 yards.
BTW, haven't said it yet but damn good shooting Burns. Shooting anything beyond 125 yards is foreign to most of these critics so just ignore the clowns.
Burns seems to handle the baby seals (clowns) quite well.
I've got a few Leupold Virtue shots but I'm not going down that rabbithole.
Did anyone notice how Jack switched up his schtick to attacking Oregon when he gets shut down? LOL
Same old same old with these campfire trolls, attack the messenger rather than admit you were wrong about your message. Does anyone else find it ironic that the dozen or so guys on the campfire that do nothing but attack other people can never admit they were wrong, and never contribute anything of substance besides drunken rants and slander?
Those people are the real problem, not some guy that kills schit dead at 1000 yards.
BTW, haven't said it yet but damn good shooting Burns. Shooting anything beyond 125 yards is foreign to most of these critics so just ignore the clowns.
I didn't switch up Scheit, I can do two things at once. I bet I could even fight to protect my 2A rights AND install a wood stove at the same time. LMAO.
The lower rung Leupolds haven't impressed me, except the FX3/FXIII. Those have been awesome set and forget scopes in any weather or conditions. I have had several, several VXI, VXII and similar scopes shift POI on me, and none were dialers. They've caused me to gut shoot a doe antelope which could have caused a hell of a rodeo but luckily she ran 100 yards and bedded, allowing me to get in closer and finish the job. I also had it happen in New Zealand on a borrowed rifle with a (IIRC) Vari X IIc 3x-9x, causing me to hit a red stag in the spine and later miss a hell of a bull tahr. I figured the stag thing was just me being excited and I should have rechecked zero when I first got the suspicion. Stupid me, though I did end up with a good tahr in the end. I guess that can happen with about any manufacture and especially lower end models. I am not sure I'd point the finger at Leupold for those SNAFUs.
I've been too cheap to get a top end Leupold dialer when SWFA 6X and 10X are available for $300, but may have to give one a try.
I must admit though: my three proudest trophies were all taken via Leupolds of one sort of another, though this Vari XIIc 3x-9x went down the road after it wouldn't hold zero. Luckily it started doing that after this day:
I've got a few Leupold Virtue shots but I'm not going down that rabbithole.
Did anyone notice how Jack switched up his schtick to attacking Oregon when he gets shut down? LOL
Same old same old with these campfire trolls, attack the messenger rather than admit you were wrong about your message. Does anyone else find it ironic that the dozen or so guys on the campfire that do nothing but attack other people can never admit they were wrong, and never contribute anything of substance besides drunken rants and slander?
Those people are the real problem, not some guy that kills schit dead at 1000 yards.
BTW, haven't said it yet but damn good shooting Burns. Shooting anything beyond 125 yards is foreign to most of these critics so just ignore the clowns.
I didn't switch up Scheit, I can do two things at once. I bet I could even fight to protect my 2A rights AND install a wood stove at the same time. LMAO.
I've got a few Leupold Virtue shots but I'm not going down that rabbithole.
Did anyone notice how Jack switched up his schtick to attacking Oregon when he gets shut down? LOL
Same old same old with these campfire trolls, attack the messenger rather than admit you were wrong about your message. Does anyone else find it ironic that the dozen or so guys on the campfire that do nothing but attack other people can never admit they were wrong, and never contribute anything of substance besides drunken rants and slander?
Those people are the real problem, not some guy that kills schit dead at 1000 yards.
BTW, haven't said it yet but damn good shooting Burns. Shooting anything beyond 125 yards is foreign to most of these critics so just ignore the clowns.
I'm glad someone else feels this way too. I was beginning to feel outnumbered by jerks, but once I started ignoring the sheet-stirrers I figured out that it was only a small handful of know-it-all punks and not the majority membership.
You Melting Snowflakes and your VERY Tender Feelers,are a fhuqking HOOT...you "lucky" kchunts! Hint. Congratulations?!?
Perhaps Group Buy some Crying Karen Professional Victim T-shirts,to "vindicate" your"stance",that STUPIDY is a "virtue". Don't "forget" your Pussy Hats either. Hint.
My 338 moose killer has a leupy vx2 3-9, been on their for probably 15 yrs at least. Been beat up on the atv, killed a lot of moose, I can't remember the last time I adjusted it. Admittedly I dont shoot it much, but every year it puts a couple within an inch about 2.5" above the bullseye, then i go kill a moose at anywhere from 75- 426 yds. I've been thinking to switch it out for a 30mm dialer, but haven't brought myself to do it yet.
You Melting Snowflakes and your VERY Tender Feelers,are a fhuqking HOOT...you "lucky" kchunts! Hint. Congratulations?!?
Perhaps Group Buy some Crying Karen Professional Victim T-shirts,to "vindicate" your"stance",that STUPIDY is a "virtue". Don't "forget" your Pussy Hats either. Hint.
this thread has been quite entertaining. have used Leupold stuff for many years and never had any issues. yeah I've even dialed them more than a bit. I have the old vx-2s and very x3s and such Target scopes one of the ones I've used the most is actually a VX II with a Stony point Target knob installed for elevation. and I've shot many a hundreds to thousands of silhouettes that you're always dialing up and down have not been let down by Leopold yet but it could happen, wouldn't call it a precision type shooting because it's all off hand. have a spotter on the silhouette game you learn a lot about reading vapor trail . so I guess I'd have to give Leopold positive review as a whole. now Stick don't like them and I have no doubt that he's tore him any up I have no doubt he's tore up a crowbar and a sandbox. but he is knowledgeable. Burns is proven to be able to guide people to good animals but he's also proven to be a complete moron here on the 24 hour so just good entertainment carry on....
You Melting Snowflakes and your VERY Tender Feelers,are a fhuqking HOOT...you "lucky" kchunts! Hint. Congratulations?!?
Perhaps Group Buy some Crying Karen Professional Victim T-shirts,to "vindicate" your"stance",that STUPIDY is a "virtue". Don't "forget" your Pussy Hats either. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!..............
Show us on the doll where the Leupold touched you.
You Melting Snowflakes and your VERY Tender Feelers,are a fhuqking HOOT...you "lucky" kchunts! Hint. Congratulations?!?
Perhaps Group Buy some Crying Karen Professional Victim T-shirts,to "vindicate" your"stance",that STUPIDY is a "virtue". Don't "forget" your Pussy Hats either. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!..............
Show us on the doll where the Leupold touched you.
I do gotta laugh, the handful of “object haters” have become creepy fuuckers. The arguing with folks that are happy, and kill more than most of the crycuunts that respond is always the same. It’s obvious some need every fuucking advantage offered to them.😂
Where did the resident fktard go? lol Prolly takin more straight shots and beatin up a woman! A blind armless fly fisherman could limit out in those streams and take better drowned rifle pics... lol Be fkn funny as chit walking up and taping bacon throat on the opposite shoulder. Hahahahahahaha gargle gargle wheeze!!!! hahaha
Hey now!!! The folks from Boston, la, Tucson, Detroit are trying to learn!!! They might “hunt” one day, or go on a “guided” hunt with A3 one day when they draw their “big” tag!!! 😆
Hopefully they don't waste to much money paying attention to a vertically challenged drunk paper puncher. One gun in this house alone hammered out over 750" of bone in the last two seasons in one state. Leupold VX-2 3x9x40 cds shots 462, 408, 420. 373yds. haha with a .270win and a lowly 130gr Interlock. No reason to over think simple chit.
But…….. she’s nice on the phone, and she’s knowledgeable, ida a guy caint simply wipe his own ass!!! 😂😂
Originally Posted by Judman
Hey now!!! The folks from Boston, la, Tucson, Detroit are trying to learn!!! They might “hunt” one day, or go on a “guided” hunt with A3 one day when they draw their “big” tag!!! 😆
Regarding your numerous insinuations of guys from Tucson calling Larry for the low down, I've let this falsehood go on long enough. I thought you would eventually let it go but I recon not. Jud, you have it wrong. This was a conversation around a real campfire with me, you, and Greg. It was me who said I called Larry, not Greg. It was me who said he was pleasant to talk to. Not Greg. I remember specifically Greg's comment was "You mean you've actually talked to that guy". Greg has never talked to Larry, PM'd Larry, nor any other form of communication. And for the record, my conversation with Larry had nothing to do with hunting, rifles, scopes, or anything hunting and shooting related. It was about cameras and lens. And you yourself commented on the quality of my most recent pictures.
So keep trying to pick fights with Greg if you want. This is about the 10th attempt (which is a little weird), with no reaction. When referring to losers that call Larry to talk camera and lens, reference Lower Alabama, not Tucson.
And FWIW, I kill a bunch of critters, way more than most. That doesnt mean I'm a good hunter, nor do I claim to be, nor do I give a rat's ass what anyone at The Fire thinks of my hunting prowess.
'Squirms is POWERLESS in the refrain,for her High Voltage Male Teenage Prick Looking Porn...the NASTY girl! Hint.
More meat here at 17yrs old,for you to hang on your wall. Perhaps she'll quantify how many times a day she thinks about me,the duration(s) of same and what I'm wearing?!? Hint.
'Squirms is POWERLESS in the refrain,for her High Voltage Male Teenage Prick Looking Porn...the NASTY girl! Hint.
More meat here at 17yrs old,for you to hang on your wall. Perhaps she'll quantify how many times a day she thinks about me,the duration(s) of same and what I'm wearing?!? Hint.
If it adds a little something "SPECIAL" for you,I can provide Pre-teen pics too,to "compliment" your album and add some REAL "spice" for you. Hint.
'Squirms is POWERLESS in the refrain,for her High Voltage Male Teenage Prick Looking Porn...the NASTY girl! Hint.
More meat here at 17yrs old,for you to hang on your wall. Perhaps she'll quantify how many times a day she thinks about me,the duration(s) of same and what I'm wearing?!? Hint.
If it adds a little something "SPECIAL" for you,I can provide Pre-teen pics too,to "compliment" your album and add some REAL "spice" for you. Hint.
'Squirms is POWERLESS in the refrain,for her High Voltage Male Teenage Prick Looking Porn...the NASTY girl! Hint.
More meat here at 17yrs old,for you to hang on your wall. Perhaps she'll quantify how many times a day she thinks about me,the duration(s) of same and what I'm wearing?!? Hint.
If it adds a little something "SPECIAL" for you,I can provide Pre-teen pics too,to "compliment" your album and add some REAL "spice" for you. Hint.
'Squirms is POWERLESS in the refrain,for her High Voltage Male Teenage Prick Looking Porn...the NASTY girl! Hint.
More meat here at 17yrs old,for you to hang on your wall. Perhaps she'll quantify how many times a day she thinks about me,the duration(s) of same and what I'm wearing?!? Hint.
If it adds a little something "SPECIAL" for you,I can provide Pre-teen pics too,to "compliment" your album and add some REAL "spice" for you. Hint.
'Squirms is POWERLESS in the refrain,for her High Voltage Male Teenage Prick Looking Porn...the NASTY girl! Hint.
More meat here at 17yrs old,for you to hang on your wall. Perhaps she'll quantify how many times a day she thinks about me,the duration(s) of same and what I'm wearing?!? Hint.
If it adds a little something "SPECIAL" for you,I can provide Pre-teen pics too,to "compliment" your album and add some REAL "spice" for you. Hint.
'Squirms is POWERLESS in the refrain,for her High Voltage Male Teenage Prick Looking Porn...the NASTY girl! Hint.
More meat here at 17yrs old,for you to hang on your wall. Perhaps she'll quantify how many times a day she thinks about me,the duration(s) of same and what I'm wearing?!? Hint.
If it adds a little something "SPECIAL" for you,I can provide Pre-teen pics too,to "compliment" your album and add some REAL "spice" for you. Hint.
Reupold Virtues. When the only coyote you will touch was road kill because Shaggy was to stoned to miss it with the Scooby Van.
Leupold Virtures.
John, I am in the market for a new scope. Can you tell me what the differences are in the VX3 HD Firedots and the VX5 HD Firedots. Other than the obvious zoom range. Are the internals or glass different?
'Squirms is POWERLESS in the refrain,for her High Voltage Male Teenage Prick Looking Porn...the NASTY girl! Hint.
More meat here at 17yrs old,for you to hang on your wall. Perhaps she'll quantify how many times a day she thinks about me,the duration(s) of same and what I'm wearing?!? Hint.
If it adds a little something "SPECIAL" for you,I can provide Pre-teen pics too,to "compliment" your album and add some REAL "spice" for you. Hint.
'Squirms is POWERLESS in the refrain,for her High Voltage Male Teenage Prick Looking Porn...the NASTY girl! Hint.
More meat here at 17yrs old,for you to hang on your wall. Perhaps she'll quantify how many times a day she thinks about me,the duration(s) of same and what I'm wearing?!? Hint.
If it adds a little something "SPECIAL" for you,I can provide Pre-teen pics too,to "compliment" your album and add some REAL "spice" for you. Hint.
VX5 has larger internal lenses and the erector system is a newer design.
I think the VX5 has a better image and the eyebox is better so if the money does not matter it's a better scope.
The VX3 HD has a bit better image than the previous models and I don't have any problems with those tracking.
Plus the VX5 has 2 more VX's than the VX3. Or, it might be that the VX5 HD has 2 more HD's than the VX3 HD. VX's or HD's, the 3 and 5 both have less of both than the VX6 HD.
VX5 has larger internal lenses and the erector system is a newer design.
I think the VX5 has a better image and the eyebox is better so if the money does not matter it's a better scope.
The VX3 HD has a bit better image than the previous models and I don't have any problems with those tracking.
Plus the VX5 has 2 more VX's than the VX3. Or, it might be that the VX5 HD has 2 more HD's than the VX3 HD. VX's or HD's, the 3 and 5 both have less of both than the VX6 HD.
I think it's both VX's and HD's.
Want to see my circus monkey dance?
Reupold Virtues. When the only coyote you will touch was road kill because Shaggy was to stoned to miss it with the Scooby Van.
'Squirms is POWERLESS in the refrain,for her High Voltage Male Teenage Prick Looking Porn...the NASTY girl! Hint.
More meat here at 17yrs old,for you to hang on your wall. Perhaps she'll quantify how many times a day she thinks about me,the duration(s) of same and what I'm wearing?!? Hint.
If it adds a little something "SPECIAL" for you,I can provide Pre-teen pics too,to "compliment" your album and add some REAL "spice" for you. Hint.
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I find 'Squirms Wanton Man Crush Fetish(es) funnier than fhuqk and only second to her NEED to somehow connect with me,because being her ain't doing it. If only obviously. Hint.
Reupold Virtues. When the only coyote you will touch was road kill because Shaggy was to stoned to miss it with the Scooby Van.
Leupold Virtures.
Seriously, why do you post so many pictures of <18???
Stick thinks it's because he has a perverted homosexual fantasy..... I am sure Stick is objective with that assessment.... serious question, are you stupid?
Reupold Virtues. When the only coyote you will touch was road kill because Shaggy was to stoned to miss it with the Scooby Van.
Leupold Virtures.
Seriously, why do you post so many pictures of <18???
Stick thinks it's because he has a perverted homosexual fantasy..... I am sure Stick is objective with that assessment.... serious question, are you stupid?
Stupid me, I actually read thru this thread, thinking that there would be something of value. Absolute total waste of time.
Should have been quite obvious by the one who posted it. But he has the few deceived followers that actually think there is some credibility, and a few buttkissers. The rest ignore him for the troll he is.
It is funnier than fhuqk,that besides being a Crying CLUELESS Fhuqk,that you just also "happen" to be a Lying Piece Of Fhuqking Schit to boot...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Keep extolling them Hurt Feelers,filling out those Reports and pronouncing your Professional Victim status,as you read my EVERY word and gawk EVERY Splendid Pixel. Hint.
But…….. she’s nice on the phone, and she’s knowledgeable, ida a guy caint simply wipe his own ass!!! 😂😂
Originally Posted by Judman
Hey now!!! The folks from Boston, la, Tucson, Detroit are trying to learn!!! They might “hunt” one day, or go on a “guided” hunt with A3 one day when they draw their “big” tag!!! 😆
Regarding your numerous insinuations of guys from Tucson calling Larry for the low down, I've let this falsehood go on long enough. I thought you would eventually let it go but I recon not. Jud, you have it wrong. This was a conversation around a real campfire with me, you, and Greg. It was me who said I called Larry, not Greg. It was me who said he was pleasant to talk to. Not Greg. I remember specifically Greg's comment was "You mean you've actually talked to that guy". Greg has never talked to Larry, PM'd Larry, nor any other form of communication. And for the record, my conversation with Larry had nothing to do with hunting, rifles, scopes, or anything hunting and shooting related. It was about cameras and lens. And you yourself commented on the quality of my most recent pictures.
So keep trying to pick fights with Greg if you want. This is about the 10th attempt (which is a little weird), with no reaction. When referring to losers that call Larry to talk camera and lens, reference Lower Alabama, not Tucson.
And FWIW, I kill a bunch of critters, way more than most. That doesnt mean I'm a good hunter, nor do I claim to be, nor do I give a rat's ass what anyone at The Fire thinks of my hunting prowess.
Hey Clint. Sorry I don’t recall your “story”. I do however remember riding to the hunting grounds in a 1st gen tundra, Greg lookin at me at asking what my problem with Larry was, “I’ve talked to him about a 22-250 or 22-250ai, and he’s actually a nice guy on the phone”. Haha
You probably had your nose buried in your phone and didn’t pay attention, like around the campfire, at his house while he was throwing a fit like a biitch we were coming in eating. “You probably don’t remember that either”, like you probably ignore him talking shiit about Rick, Casey, Jason “his neighbor, wife, and kids, and Ali telling him at least 4-5 times to stop talking shiit about folks.
But you’ll talk about me “wounding” a buck I killed, invite me down the following year, the year after and up til a week after Rick hunted with him. Remember the text, “ I’d love to have Josh, you and Calvin and Clint come for a coues hunt, and I offered to drive down with my sxs?”
For such educated fuuckers you guys are stupid as fuuck! Remember your text, “ya you’re right Greg and I shouldn’t have said anything “??? You phony fuucks ain’t no different than the rest of the fake fuucks here.
Oh remember your free guide saying when he killed his auodad, “this is the closest I’ll ever get to a guided hunt”? Remember that? Fuuck you guys.
But…….. she’s nice on the phone, and she’s knowledgeable, ida a guy caint simply wipe his own ass!!! 😂😂
Originally Posted by Judman
Hey now!!! The folks from Boston, la, Tucson, Detroit are trying to learn!!! They might “hunt” one day, or go on a “guided” hunt with A3 one day when they draw their “big” tag!!! 😆
Regarding your numerous insinuations of guys from Tucson calling Larry for the low down, I've let this falsehood go on long enough. I thought you would eventually let it go but I recon not. Jud, you have it wrong. This was a conversation around a real campfire with me, you, and Greg. It was me who said I called Larry, not Greg. It was me who said he was pleasant to talk to. Not Greg. I remember specifically Greg's comment was "You mean you've actually talked to that guy". Greg has never talked to Larry, PM'd Larry, nor any other form of communication. And for the record, my conversation with Larry had nothing to do with hunting, rifles, scopes, or anything hunting and shooting related. It was about cameras and lens. And you yourself commented on the quality of my most recent pictures.
So keep trying to pick fights with Greg if you want. This is about the 10th attempt (which is a little weird), with no reaction. When referring to losers that call Larry to talk camera and lens, reference Lower Alabama, not Tucson.
And FWIW, I kill a bunch of critters, way more than most. That doesnt mean I'm a good hunter, nor do I claim to be, nor do I give a rat's ass what anyone at The Fire thinks of my hunting prowess.
Hey Clint. Sorry I don’t recall your “story”. I do however remember riding to the hunting grounds in a 1st gen tundra, Greg lookin at me at asking what my problem with Larry was, “I’ve talked to him about a 22-250 or 22-250ai, and he’s actually a nice guy on the phone”. Haha
You probably had your nose buried in your phone and didn’t pay attention, like around the campfire, at his house while he was throwing a fit like a biitch we were coming in eating. “You probably don’t remember that either”, like you probably ignore him talking shiit about Rick, Casey, Jason “his neighbor, wife, and kids, and Ali telling him at least 4-5 times to stop talking shiit about folks.
But you’ll talk about me “wounding” a buck I killed, invite me down the following year, the year after and up til a week after Rick hunted with him. Remember the text, “ I’d love to have Josh, you and Calvin and Clint come for a coues hunt, and I offered to drive down with my sxs?”
For such educated fuuckers you guys are stupid as fuuck! Remember your text, “ya you’re right Greg and I shouldn’t have said anything “??? You phony fuucks ain’t no different than the rest of the fake fuucks here.
Oh remember your free guide saying when he killed his auodad, “this is the closest I’ll ever get to a guided hunt”? Remember that? Fuuck you guys.
Do you have a lot of experience with the linked to model of scope?
I personally do not. But a lot of my fellow shooters use them and I haven't heard any complaints. White Oak sells one that I understand is very similar, but closer to Stick's budget. It is well respected too.
'Squirms is POWERLESS in the refrain,for her High Voltage Male Teenage Prick Looking Porn...the NASTY girl! Hint.
More meat here at 17yrs old,for you to hang on your wall. Perhaps she'll quantify how many times a day she thinks about me,the duration(s) of same and what I'm wearing?!? Hint.
If it adds a little something "SPECIAL" for you,I can provide Pre-teen pics too,to "compliment" your album and add some REAL "spice" for you. Hint.
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