Does anyone have this reticle in their Leupold scope? If so I'd like to know how you like it versus the regular Duplex. Specifically, are the posts heavier and easier to see in low light? I'm thinking about ordering a VX-3 from the custom shop with this reticle. Thanks.

I ordered a VX2 3x9 with the P&D reticle last year. The thin (center) section is almost as thick as a heavy duplex and the thick part (posts) are between the standard and heavy duplex in thickness. The center area between the posts is closer than a heavy duplex. I really like the reticle. It works well on a dim day. I would not recommend one for night hunting but for that you would be better off with an illuminated reticle.

sounds interesting...

can you post a pic through your scope?

Thanks Dave. I think I'll opt for this reticle when I order the VX-3.

Leupold reticle options:
http://www2.leupold.com/products/reticles.htm

Post & duplex reticle. VX-2 3x9x40mm. Magnification set at 3x. Trees are about 20 yards from window. Picture isn't the best. Dave

I always like a tapered post and crosshair. Nothing beats it for a quick shot. For a longer distange I like a post and duplex but the tapered post is my favorite

Picture through scope looks like a Realtree camo pattern. I do like the post and duplex.

Almost as heavy as the Heavy Duplex, but not as cluttered feeling as the HD. Shows up in any light. Actially better than my Premier Reticles 4a at night. E

how does it work for shooting groups? crosshairs too thick or just right?

Earl,

That link wouldn't work for me.

Don

DH,

I have that reticle in a Leupy 3x, and love it. It's best in lo light, and shooting groups with it is no problem.

I have one in a Leupy 3x that is mounted on a Marlin 45-70.

It is a good choice for shooting game and works fine on paper.

It is less visible and less distracting than the heavy duplex.

A pretty good compromise for most hunting situations at reasonable ranges.

leupold told me that the post and duplex mirros the subtensions of the duplex minus the 12 o'clock post. The measurement they gave me were exactly the same as the standard duplex which isnt coinciding with what was said here????

my favorite reticle currently is:
zeiss 3-9x40 z-plex

3x-9x @ 100 yards in inch
opening.... posts ... x-hairs
24- 8 .... 4-1,3 ... 0,7-0,2


the leup 3.5-10x P&D (same as duplex minus top post according to leup)

16.1-5.4 .... 2.1-0.7 .... 0.7-0.2


i like the smaller opening but the posts are half the size??

E,
You ever decide to sell that scope with the Premier 4a in it, shoot me a PM. I've got that reticle in a VXII 2-7x33 residing on top of my Omega muzzleloader and absolutely love it...

I called leupold today and while the xt duplex may be the answer for lots of us it is only available on the xl7 or x7 scopes what ever they are

the guy I talked to also confirmed that the post and duplex is basically the std duplex less the 12oclock post

I am really torn I have a mark 4 to send in it currently has a fine duplex. I have two vari x 3 3.5-10 with std duplex and they are OK but not great.

In a perfect world I would get the heavy duplex without the 12 o clock post and the german 4 is heavy yet very fine in the middle

Right now I am trying to decide between the heavy duplex and the post and duplex I feel my only 2 options

P&D is the way to go for hunting. Though the HD isn't a problem either, but it is more cluttered feeling.

I felt the clutter feeling and I like heavier than normal reticles

As I said before I felt cluttered when I looked through the HD not heavy enough with the std duplex and the #4 was just ok

I think I will roll the dice and try the post and duplex it will be better than the fine that I have now!

When I called Leupold's customer service and talked to a rep. I asked what is the subtention of the post & duplex compared to the heavy duplex. I was told the center is almost as thick as a heavy duplex and the posts between the heavy duplex and a standard duplex in thickness. The post spacing is closer with the post & duplex. Maybe they have been changed but my post & duplex reticle in my VX II 3x9 is thicker than a standard duplex. My son has a post & duplex in his vari X III 2.5x8 and it's thicker than a standard duplex. The heavy duplex is not too thick in reality. You can hit fifty cent piece (or a bit smaller) size targets at 211 yards with a 6x42 with a heavy duplex reticle. My son and I have done it and I'm not a great shot. Dogzapper has a heavy duplex in his 3.5x10x40 on his pet .280AI.

SORRY,Don! Try this one:
http://www2.leupold.com/resources/downloads/BAS_Recticle_chart_07.pdf

Earl,

Thanks!

Don

I always figured it was upside down, I would want the smaller hair on the bottom so it would assit me in holdover, but I actually see no advantage over the standard duplex with any of the other reticles..the std. duplex has served me to perfection for over 50 years, I see no reason to change although I did try them all, the exhuberence of youth I guess!

you never lose the thin duplex in low light?

Reticle choice is subjective, as shooting light dictated by vegetation, etc. that can obscure light early and late, as well as make reticles harder/easier to contrast can vary considerably in different areas.

There is a place for heavier reticles IMHO, as I have made shots with some Heavy Duplex, #4s, and even Mil Dots that have heavy outer post i.e. 6-24 4200, that allowed shots a regular plex, and certainly the 'fine duplex' reticles would not have made.

Glass has much improved and a thin reticle WILL get lost in certain conditions.

Perhaps a day will come when in lieu of variable 'magnification' we can have a variable 'reticle' for various shooting conditions.

Im pondering the same thing. Does anyone have the post and duplex in a 4.5-14? If so can a pic thru that particular scope be provided? I have been told that the p&d in the 4.5-14 is basicallt like the std dplx. And thats still to thin for my liking. The hvy dplx is just too "cluttered". There has to be a happy medium somewhere.

280Ack, I think the "wide duplex" is the best for lowlight.. it seems to be a great compromise between the standard and heavy.. Try it out..

Does anyone even use the "wide duplex"?? I never hear anyone talk about it.. Mine is fantastic..

I can't stand the wide duplex. If the thick part of the bars stop that far out from the center then what's the point of having them?

hmmmm, I never noticed it being that far out... Not saying you are wrong, at all.. will check this eve and see if I notice it..

Maybe I was mislead when I bought the scope.. might be a different reticle!

Sometimes folks have mistakenly said wide duplex when it was really heavy duplex.

Also there's more than one weight of heavy duplex. The one that goes in the 1.75-6x32 is very heavy. The posts come in close to the middle, and the center crosswire is 1" thick at 100 yards on 6x.

Some felt it covered too much target or the view was cluttered, but it isn't for picking the heads off chipmunks at 400 yards. It is for laying a big, bold, hard to miss "bullet goes here" sign on a beast's shoulder as the light goes down.

Yessir, I have a Heavy but it lookd about in between that and a Standard.. I will check it ou.. U have my dander up...

Well said!

Ok so I just got my scope back from leupold after having them install the post and duplex reticle in my mk4 4.5-14

First off let me say I got the scope back to my doorstep 2 hrs shy of week from being shipped un real service

I am very happy with my choice in reticle and will be sending my others off soon to get the same.

Definately a little heavier than the std duplex in my 4.5-14 varix 3 and the 2 3.5-10 vari x 3s I have but not too heavy and cluttered like the heavy duplex a very nice compromise

I have the P&D in a FXII 6x and for general hunting I think it is a VERY good choice. There are better ones for specific duties such as long range, or close 'brush' hunting but for a do it all scope I think its a great way to go.

I had the custom shop put the P&D in VX-3 2.5-8x.

I really like it.

Yes, that looks just about right to me also. Im curious if they could put in a standard plex with the Post and duplex dimensions? Im also curious how much it is for the 2.5x8x36 ordered with the post and duplex straight from the custom shop.

That's what I did, ordered it straight from the custom shop with the P&D installed. If you go to the Leupold site, you can order it and get the price on the Custom Shop page:

https://customshop.leupold.com/custom_shop.php