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Posted By: ndtinker Swarovski Habicht Porros - 08/12/10
Just wondered if anyone had any experience with the older Swaro Habichts that are single, not multi, coated. How do they stack up against today's glass? Thanks.

Joe
Posted By: HunterJim Re: Swarovski Habicht Porros - 08/12/10
I have a Swaro 7X42 porro prism Habicht that I have used for years as my woods bino. I am going to send it back this year for a check-up, meanwhile I am using my new to me Nikon Superior E 8X32 porro for the woods.

I don't have a current model Habicht to compare.

jim
Posted By: Farmboy1 Re: Swarovski Habicht Porros - 08/13/10
Jim:
How are you liking the Nikon SE? I know when I take mine out
they are just the best view.

Jerry
Posted By: HunterJim Re: Swarovski Habicht Porros - 08/13/10
Jerry,

The 8X32 SEs are phenomenal! I use them birding in the backyard and I like them a lot. As I said they will be my hunting glass this fall, and I am already thinking about getting a pair of the SE 12X50s.

jim
Posted By: Farmboy1 Re: Swarovski Habicht Porros - 08/13/10
Originally Posted by HunterJim
Jerry,

The 8X32 SEs are phenomenal! I use them birding in the backyard and I like them a lot. As I said they will be my hunting glass this fall, and I am already thinking about getting a pair of the SE 12X50s.

jim


Jim:

Good to here it. For some here the Nikon porros, offer a view that is not available at any price in even the latest
top roof binoculars. Good to hear from you.

Oops, sorry to hijack the Swaro. thread, but the Nikon porro has any of the old Swaros. beat.

Jerry
Posted By: ndtinker Re: Swarovski Habicht Porros - 08/13/10
How much are the 8x32 SEs going for these days?
Hello ndtinker,

I have had various and still have one, one of the newest Porro 10x40 W GA, green rubber covered and with the last multicoating lens treatement. The first one was my first really good binocular. A Habicht 10x40 W I bought, used, in 1981. Was as I said my first good binocular and my only binocular for 20 years. And it would be still with me if it wasn�t stollen from my truck in 2001. From then I had 4 10x40, two of them rubber armored and another 8x30 not armored. One of these five was as old as my first one but the other four including the 8x30 were nitrogen filled and weather proof. All this Habicht porro were and are truly FIRST CLASS binoculars. In spite of the rather yellow view of the older ones single coated (made on porpouse to increase the contrast at down and dusk)all are EXELENT glass with optics on par with the newest top roof with optimal resolution and optical corrections. And built like a tank, indeed! And the last ones have the best multicoating with neutral and totally natural colours. Mine was bought also used but mint last year. Perfect! And practically equal to my Zeiss Victory FL 10x42 in optics and I think better mechanically...For me, one of the most underated binoculars and, new, costing at least 50% of the top of the lines Porro or Roof L, N, S or Z.

Regards

PH
And, a few days ago I tested my 10x40 Habicht Porro along a Nikon SE 10x40. To the three of us the Swarovski Habicht win in all respects although not by much....

PH
Posted By: ndtinker Re: Swarovski Habicht Porros - 08/14/10
Thanks Patagonia Hunter. Appreciate your info.
Posted By: Farmboy1 Re: Swarovski Habicht Porros - 08/14/10
Originally Posted by ndtinker
How much are the 8x32 SEs going for these days?


There are few sources here in the US for the Nikon SE porros. Adorama, does sell them, and you can check.

The current Swaro. porros may be very good but are not sold in the US.

The Nikon SE is well regarded as one of the finest values of any binocular, even comparing to the latest and best roofs.
Posted By: BobinNH Re: Swarovski Habicht Porros - 08/14/10
Originally Posted by PatagoniaHunter
Hello ndtinker,

I have had various and still have one, one of the newest Porro 10x40 W GA, green rubber covered and with the last multicoating lens treatement. The first one was my first really good binocular. A Habicht 10x40 W I bought, used, in 1981. Was as I said my first good binocular and my only binocular for 20 years. And it would be still with me if it wasn�t stollen from my truck in 2001. From then I had 4 10x40, two of them rubber armored and another 8x30 not armored. One of these five was as old as my first one but the other four including the 8x30 were nitrogen filled and weather proof. All this Habicht porro were and are truly FIRST CLASS binoculars. In spite of the rather yellow view of the older ones single coated (made on porpouse to increase the contrast at down and dusk)all are EXELENT glass with optics on par with the newest top roof with optimal resolution and optical corrections. And built like a tank, indeed! And the last ones have the best multicoating with neutral and totally natural colours. Mine was bought also used but mint last year. Perfect! And practically equal to my Zeiss Victory FL 10x42 in optics and I think better mechanically...For me, one of the most underated binoculars and, new, costing at least 50% of the top of the lines Porro or Roof L, N, S or Z.

Regards

PH


I agree with all of this;the Swaro porro's are a fabulous binocular. I've hunted with a 10x40 back in the 80's,and used a guide's 7x42 a bit in Alaska.The 10x40 beat the pants off a 10x40 Zeiss Classic I owned at the same time. I have no idea why I don't own a pair now...... frown
Posted By: GF1 Re: Swarovski Habicht Porros - 08/14/10
I've had and used a pair of Swarovski Habicht 10x40 porros that I bought at an optical shop in Salzburg, Austria, in 1982. While worn on the outside and a veteran of more hunts than I can recall, they are still superbly sharp and I wouldn't trade them for any of the new models.

Another sleeper on the used market are the older Nikon porros, Nippon Kogaku marked. I have several pairs, and they are sharp, light, beautifully made. Almost as good as my old Swarovskis...
Posted By: Ward Re: Swarovski Habicht Porros - 08/14/10
My 7x42 Swarovski Habicht were my first good binos. They've been claimed by my wife who thinks they're the only bino 'you can just pick up and see stuff.' I've spent a lot trying to match the Habicht. The field of view is narrow but I never notice that when in use. They've been wet, bounced around a lot and hold up just fine. I've found glass as good but not better.
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