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Bought a new rifle and wanting to try a set, but sure been happy with the steel leupolds, redfields and burris tactical.

I like the modular design, but seem cheap.

Any thoughts here?

Mounting a Nikon MonarchGold 2.5-10x50 on a a-bolt Ti 300wsm.
Why do they "seem cheap"?

Have you looked at them in person or in a photo?

They are high quality mounts...
I've seen a few of those mounts around the range, and they looked to be quite solid.

Dare I ask why put such a tank of a scope on a titanium action rifle?
Like them a lot, would never consider them cheap or cheap looking. I find them to do as advertised, excellent rig and my current first choice on everything I can use them on.
I have about 6 rifles wearing DNZ mounts. Pretty good.
I bought one and sent it back. It was solid, but looked bulky and actually was pretty heavy for an aluminum mount.
Definately not "cheap" as far as quality.

I do think they are a pretty good value price wise though. I like them.

Originally Posted by mathman


Dare I ask why put such a tank of a scope on a titanium action rifle?


He might be from Alabama. I had never seen so many 50 and 56mm scopes on model sevens and Marlins until I moved up here. crazy

Check out the hubble on the model 7

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I put some DNZ mounts on Tikka I used to have. They are tough. I honestly think the DNZ or Talley lightweights are stronger than the conventional steel rings since they do not have a separate base.

But I prefer the Talleys. While I'm sure the DNZ are tough as nails, the Talleys are much stronger than needed, look nicer in my opinion, and are much lighter.
They are very strong and reilable mounts, have used them on mny rifles, they are the only mounts my local gunsmith uses for the long range rifles he builds.
Originally Posted by JMR40
I put some DNZ mounts on Tikka I used to have. They are tough. I honestly think the DNZ or Talley lightweights are stronger than the conventional steel rings since they do not have a separate base.

But I prefer the Talleys. While I'm sure the DNZ are tough as nails, the Talleys are much stronger than needed, look nicer in my opinion, and are much lighter.



Not true on the talleys! I had a pair of them on a Tikka 25/06 and they BROKE after 2 weeks. Talley did replace them and also sent me a pre paid box to ship the broken ones back to them. They wanted to inspect them.

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I have a couple sets of DNZ's and no problems!
Nice.. Farmer tight?
Calvin:
Don't knock the farmers, they handle more mechanics than most here ever will.
I like the Dednutz, simple full rigid mount, well made, and they
will never break like that last photo.
Torgue is 25inlbs. I'm a aviation mechanic, I have a few torque wrenches in my tool box.
Good to hear from a wrench turner, you are well qualifed to reply.
I have the Dednutz, and have moved the mount to my new 700, these
are well made, no ring marks on the scope, well recommended here.
Originally Posted by JMR40
I put some DNZ mounts on Tikka I used to have. They are tough. I honestly think the DNZ or Talley lightweights are stronger than the conventional steel rings since they do not have a separate base.

But I prefer the Talleys. While I'm sure the DNZ are tough as nails, the Talleys are much stronger than needed, look nicer in my opinion, and are much lighter.


They(Talleys) look a little nicer but the weight diff is a non factor. The DNZ's are 2x as strong, better alloy that is properly treated and straighter. I stopped using Talleys a few years back and have never looked back.
Originally Posted by lovesomeshootin
Originally Posted by JMR40
I put some DNZ mounts on Tikka I used to have. They are tough. I honestly think the DNZ or Talley lightweights are stronger than the conventional steel rings since they do not have a separate base.

But I prefer the Talleys. While I'm sure the DNZ are tough as nails, the Talleys are much stronger than needed, look nicer in my opinion, and are much lighter.





Not true on the talleys! I had a pair of them on a Tikka 25/06 and they BROKE after 2 weeks. Talley did replace them and also sent me a pre paid box to ship the broken ones back to them. They wanted to inspect them.

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I have a couple sets of DNZ's and no problems!


I have seen a lot of photos of cracked Talley bases here on the fire. I wonder if the material they are buying is properly treated prior to machining or they are getting bad batches of material from suppliers. Aluminum should not fatigue like it did in that photo in such a short time period. my biggest beef with Talleys is they pretty much all have to be lapped not so with the DNZ's
In reference to the Hubble on the Model 7....:)

Big Objectives+High Magnification+Very Little use of Binos=Hunting in the Southeast.

99% of Hunting here is from elevated stands or pop up ground blinds in very heavy cover. I see photos on here where members out West reference cover and it's not even close to what we hunt and this includes the NW.

Deer hunting is a last and first light proposition. I prefer the FXIII 6x42 HD but on my lease I see lots of 50's and some 56's and yes they will plop them down onto Ti's,MR's,Montanas etc...figuring that if they can save some weight in the rifle....why not?

Binos are NOT a standard hunting accessory here...most game is checked on the ground or through a scope....one reason most won't hunt public land here. Another is the 2-5 second time you have to decide aim and shoot......not saying I agree with how it is but that is fact.

Robert
56mm scopes are a common occurance around here at hunting camps, my own main deer rifle wears a 2.5x10x56 swarovski. For all those that snicker at the "hubble", I'm a cheapskate and trust me, I would not have spent the money for it unless it gave a legitimate advantage. Given the time that the truly big ones come out you aren't going to kill many big deer around here prancing around the woods with a 2.5x8x36 leupold. I know, I have a couple of them also. You'll kill deer, but the truly trophy class animals that I want typically only show themselves at last light. I'll disagree with the previous poster on the binocular statement though, everyone I hunt with uses high quality binos. Mine are swarovski slc's and several other guys in my camp use the same ones, a couple use high end Nikons, and there are a couple of pairs of Kahles.

Everything we use is geared towards what'll work during the few minutes of last light, that's when the big ones move around here. It's very, very different hunting than what the western guys are used to when they're hiking the canyons and mountains, therefore the optics needs are vastly different. There's a reason for the "Hubbles", the same reason the germans invented them.
I hunt a timber lease in NW Louisiana, and I know all about first and last light. Under those conditions I've found a quality 6x42 works quite well.

My bino is a Meostar 8x42, and I'm very happy with it.
Originally Posted by Crow hunter
56mm scopes are a common occurance around here at hunting camps, my own main deer rifle wears a 2.5x10x56 swarovski. For all those that snicker at the "hubble", I'm a cheapskate and trust me, I would not have spent the money for it unless it gave a legitimate advantage. Given the time that the truly big ones come out you aren't going to kill many big deer around here prancing around the woods with a 2.5x8x36 leupold. I know, I have a couple of them also. You'll kill deer, but the truly trophy class animals that I want typically only show themselves at last light. I'll disagree with the previous poster on the binocular statement though, everyone I hunt with uses high quality binos. Mine are swarovski slc's and several other guys in my camp use the same ones, a couple use high end Nikons, and there are a couple of pairs of Kahles.

Everything we use is geared towards what'll work during the few minutes of last light, that's when the big ones move around here. It's very, very different hunting than what the western guys are used to when they're hiking the canyons and mountains, therefore the optics needs are vastly different. There's a reason for the "Hubbles", the same reason the germans invented them.


I use 7x42SLCs myself but most of the folks I've hunted around do not use a bino.....we've talked about it around the campfires and most say the same thing "once I know it's a deer I will check it with my scope".....guess it works for them.

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Robert
That is the first I've heard of Talley's breaking. I may have to re-think my position.
Originally Posted by JMR40
That is the first I've heard of Talley's breaking. I may have to re-think my position.


I've quite a few sets of Talley LW's and they are a good strong system. Still, I've seen quite a few pics of them with a broken top strap corner and now the above.
I haven't lost faith in the ones I have but have to think they aren't in the top tier strength wise.
great mounts!
I actually bought both for my A-Bolt Ti in 308. I had to mail order them because neither was in stock locally. Anyway, after comparing both I used the Talley's because they looked a little better and are lighter. I went out of my way to save as much weight as possible on this rifle. That being said, I had to lap the crap out of the Talley's while I don't believe this would have been necessary with the Dednutz mount. Doing it all over again if I wasn't as concerned about saving every bit of weight I would go with the Dednutz mount.
Originally Posted by JMR40
I put some DNZ mounts on Tikka I used to have. They are tough. I honestly think the DNZ or Talley lightweights are stronger than the conventional steel rings since they do not have a separate base.

But I prefer the Talleys. While I'm sure the DNZ are tough as nails, the Talleys are much stronger than needed, look nicer in my opinion, and are much lighter.


I guess this is where looks is truly in the eye of the beholder. To me the DNZ mounts look like they are machined much better and make the Talley ringmounts look cheap.

I have the DNZ's on a Browning X-Bolt and a T/C Omega and have been very pleased with them.
Originally Posted by VAhuntr
Originally Posted by JMR40
I put some DNZ mounts on Tikka I used to have. They are tough. I honestly think the DNZ or Talley lightweights are stronger than the conventional steel rings since they do not have a separate base.

But I prefer the Talleys. While I'm sure the DNZ are tough as nails, the Talleys are much stronger than needed, look nicer in my opinion, and are much lighter.


I guess this is where looks is truly in the eye of the beholder. To me the DNZ mounts look like they are machined much better and make the Talley ringmounts look cheap.

I have the DNZ's on a Browning X-Bolt and a T/C Omega and have been very pleased with them.


I have them on similiar rifles x-bolt, tc endeavor cva apex and they are extremely well made..sighting a rifle in is easy with these mounts
Dead Nutz Mounts=Excellent design, and manufacture.
Aesthetics may not meet some people's approval, BUT, they are VERY well made.
I have one set now, and there will be more.
Originally Posted by JKB
Bought a new rifle and wanting to try a set, but sure been happy with the steel leupolds, redfields and burris tactical.

I like the modular design, but seem cheap.

Any thoughts here?

Mounting a Nikon MonarchGold 2.5-10x50 on a a-bolt Ti 300wsm.


JKB,

See that this is your first posting.
Welcome aboard, visit often, and join in on the banter.
Just put DNZ on a savage 220F. Piece of cake, look and feel solid and well built. Site in was a breeze. Pricey, but imo for my situation worth it.

I wrote this up a while back about the DNZ mounts.....

I ordered the Dednutz mounts directly from the manufacturer. The woman on the phone was easy to talk to, and she knew what she was doing. I placed the order on Thursday, and they were waiting in the mailbox for me this afternoon. Three business days is pretty quick service to Alaska, by any standards. They shipped via Priority Mail, and the grand total after shipping was $62.90.

I ordered a set of Dednutz mounts for a Model 7, and since I don't have a set of Talley's for a Model 7, I used a set of LW lows for a Model 700 to get my numbers. I'm thinking they'll be close enough for a decent comparison.


The numbers:
--The Talley's 2-pc rings weigh 2.2 oz, total; the Dednutz 1-pc unit weighs 2.8 oz.
--The 'low" Talley's measure .400" high on the front mount; the Dednutz "extra low" unit is .050" shorter.

As for the rings themselves, the Tally's are .640" wide, versus the Dednutz at .625". The Tally rings are .100" thick at the thinnest portion (at the top), and the Dn's are .240" thick - they're stout!



The Photos:

Side-by-side top view:
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Side-by-side angle view:
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On the rifle, with the top rings off to show the length of the screws:
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On the rifle w/ 2.5-8x, right side:
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On the rifle, left side:
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Clearance to the action:
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Just a question on dnz how many mount screws are there?
Dan,
Do you have any idea of how the DNZ extra-lows compare to a Leupy set of low rings as far as height? I sure would like to give these a go but not sure if the extra-low would be too low to mount a variable and have room for the power-ring. I tried this with the Talley extra-lows and it didn't work but like the weight savings of the DNZ.
Thanks
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