I'm looking for some quality scope covers to use on my SWFA SS 3-9x42 that's on my hunting rig. I currently have Butler Creek flip up caps on it that just aren't working for me. I love the look, feel, and style of them. The problem is they don't last for me. I broke the eye piece one right before the season started and after much arguing with Bushnell, I got them to replace it. I didn't have the receipt so they didn't want to replace it.
Anyway, I've been hunting for about 2 weeks with them, and sure enough, the new eye piece one broke again. The hinge breaks apart from the cap part. Then last Saturday while climbing into a stand with the objective cover up, the cover bumped the rail on the stand, not hard I should mention, and sure enough it cracked too. I've got some older sets of these Butler Creek covers I love and they seem to hold up, but these recent ones are junk, and I don't want to replace them every 2 weeks.
Are there any better tougher options out there that will hold up? I hate to run it without scope covers. I've tried it, and I end up getting my lens super dirty and have even had branches and what not scratch them on other scopes in the past.
Bikinis are a close second, you just pop em off and they fly away. If you lose them, not a big deal or you can tie em' to the barrel with a piece of paracord.
I have been cut so many times by Butler's red button or had them break in cold weather, you couldn't give me a set.
If you must have that style, the Weavers are good as the body is rubber and there is no red knob to bite you.
Another option is the neoprene scope covers that now come with Leupolds and are made by Scopecote. Easy on and off.
I only use the BC objective cover, sit the rifle on its butt w/ black tape over the barrel, works perfectly for me.
Have also never had an animal spook at the sound of me opening the cap, they cant hear it for the rain, if its not raining, the cover is opened as soon as I enter the hunting area.
Bikinis were pretty good, except for the part where they do not keep the rest of the scope clean, and most did not attach to the rifle itself to keep them from flying off.
ScopeShield neoprenes solve it all, and are used by MuleDeer here and many other of the major contributors to the campfire.
Your SS 3-9X42 is a 13.1 inch scope which is fit by the ScopeShield SS12. (A 12 inch stretchable cover)
watching this one closely. I've come to the same conclusion this last season. The butler flip ups either open or break constantly. Total POS. I'm leaning towards a bikini with paracord tied to the rifle. But open to ideas.
watching this one closely. I've come to the same conclusion this last season. The butler flip ups either open or break constantly. Total POS. I'm leaning towards a bikini with paracord tied to the rifle. But open to ideas.
I'll do better than an idea. Email me your shipping address and scope make and model and I will send you a ScopeShield my complements. Just let your fellow campfire members know what you think of it.
watching this one closely. I've come to the same conclusion this last season. The butler flip ups either open or break constantly. Total POS. I'm leaning towards a bikini with paracord tied to the rifle. But open to ideas.
I'll do better than an idea. Email me your shipping address and scope make and model and I will send you a ScopeShield my complements. Just let your fellow campfire members know what you think of it.
Email sent. Thanks Terry. Will report back on what I think.
I suppose Scopeshield does it better and certainly easier but a bikini style home made from bicycle innertubes and replaced as needed works for me for practical hunting - maybe takes a real balloon tire bicycle tube to do for a moonscope.
Terry, how are the ScopeShields different from the neoprene cover that came with my Leupold? Do they just fall away when you take them off? Being able to move it from one scope to another depending on what I'm using would certainly be cheaper than a new set of Butler Creeks for each scope, as I do now.
Terry, how are the ScopeShields different from the neoprene cover that came with my Leupold? Do they just fall away when you take them off? Being able to move it from one scope to another depending on what I'm using would certainly be cheaper than a new set of Butler Creeks for each scope, as I do now.
Hi Condition Yellow! The Leupold Scopesmiths are beautifully made and fabulous for in-the-rack protection. They can be a little difficult to swiftly remove in the field however, but the big differences with ScopeShield involve the Patent Pending "keeper" loop on the ScopeShield, and its instant release feature. The pulltab on the rear means you just stretch 'er back, lift and let go. The ScopeShield slingshots off instantly, but the keeper loop retains it to the rifle forearm, completely out of line of sight. A Scopesmith of course must be stowed, pocketed or just thrown to the ground if in a hurry.
The first reaction of our customers is to slap their forheads when they see them and ask "dangit, why didn't I think of that?"
Cut a strip out of an inner tube. Ugly, but functional.
This of course is what the inventor, Jon Stram, Prince of Wales Island Alaska, as well as most Alaskan hunters and outfitters at the time, had been using. Recognizing the deficiencies of innertubes, Jon began cutting up old waders. He then realized that the keeper loop would then eliminate the throwaway function, and further added the gloves-on pulltab for instant release...and ScopeShields were born. It's just a matter of whether one wants to engage the process in its old beginnings, innertubes, or at its current culmination, ScopeShields.
IdahoElkHunter: I gave up on the Butler Creek scope covers for Big Game Hunting some years ago - they just do not remain closed when I need them closed - this is aggravating when Hunting in rain, snow, sleet, hail and in dust thrown up by ATV travel etc etc etc! I still use them for the less critical/demanding Colony Varmint Hunting situations and while travelling around in luxury vehicles for lens protection. I now use (went BACK to!) the old style Ka-Ramba scope lense covers with the elastic flip off/retaining system when bad weather and Big game are on the menu. I would be very interested in trying one of the "Scope Shield" type scope covers with elastic retainer - first test would be to see how long they stay affixed (in position to protect the scope lenses from rain, snow, sleet and dust) while Hunting with Rifle slung over the shoulder. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
I have also noticed Butler Creeks seem to have gotten a lot easier to break the last few years. Maybe I'm just getting more clumsy!
Also, quick focus and flip ups aren't a great combo, for lots of reasons.
I'm curious about the Scopeshields.
How thick are they?
Are they a snug fit that doesn't slip or hang going in and out of a scabbard or guncase? I've got an overhead gun rack in my pickup that is a tight fit for a scoped rifle, but begs for a scope cover that I can get off quick and not lose in the process.
Are they completely waterproof?
How about durability - are they pretty tough?
I've got some Kahles 3-9x40's and a stable of Leupold 3.5-10x40's and 3-9x40's. Would the same cover fit both scopes?
Will the retention band rub off paint/scuff wood?
Have to admit, it looks handy and simple - and I'm thinking the digital gray would look OK on a stainless/synthetic rifle - especially a Montana or two.
Thanks for taking time to answer some questions, if you are able!
Cut a strip out of an inner tube. Ugly, but functional.
This of course is what the inventor, Jon Stram, Prince of Wales Island Alaska, as well as most Alaskan hunters and outfitters at the time, had been using. Recognizing the deficiencies of innertubes, Jon began cutting up old waders. He then realized that the keeper loop would then eliminate the throwaway function, and further added the gloves-on pulltab for instant release...and ScopeShields were born. It's just a matter of whether one wants to engage the process in its old beginnings, innertubes, or at its current culmination, ScopeShields.
Please enlighten us on the deficiencies of innertubes. Also, I never realized that I had to throw the inner tube away every time I removed it. Pockets are a wonderful thing.
I have also noticed Butler Creeks seem to have gotten a lot easier to break the last few years. Maybe I'm just getting more clumsy!
Also, quick focus and flip ups aren't a great combo, for lots of reasons.
I'm curious about the Scopeshields.
How thick are they?
Are they a snug fit that doesn't slip or hang going in and out of a scabbard or guncase? I've got an overhead gun rack in my pickup that is a tight fit for a scoped rifle, but begs for a scope cover that I can get off quick and not lose in the process.
Are they completely waterproof?
How about durability - are they pretty tough?
I've got some Kahles 3-9x40's and a stable of Leupold 3.5-10x40's and 3-9x40's. Would the same cover fit both scopes?
Will the retention band rub off paint/scuff wood?
Have to admit, it looks handy and simple - and I'm thinking the digital gray would look OK on a stainless/synthetic rifle - especially a Montana or two.
Thanks for taking time to answer some questions, if you are able!
DJ
Hi DJTEX! Excellent questions all. The neoprene is 2 mm in thickness and very stretchy. The recommended fit is a cover about an inch shorter than your tube length. This is what produces the snug fit, and because they cover all turrets and the scope body, they facilitate entry and exit from the scabbard. There are simply no sharp edges or objects exposed on the scope to snag. Neoprene is not waterproof. It does wick water to its edges, and remarkably keeps the lenses, which are never in direct contact with the material, dry. More incredibly, neoprene is a bit of an insulator, warding off the tendency for scope bodies and lenses to cool to a temperature lower than that of the ambient air, which is what causes fogging. The keeper loop is soft fabric which does not mar the forearm.
As to tough, there is nothing you could do in normal usage which will destroy it. We did just replace one for a hunter in Quebec whose partner placed the loop around a thick tree staub and attempted to do a chin-up by pulling down on the ScopeShield. He ripped the loop out of the cover, to no one's surprise. So they, like me, are not invulnerable to exceptional abuse. They, being smooth, have no tendency to snag in brush, and I have crawled for years now with the same cover through the awful nasties. I also have one I demonstrate in shows for three years, with a guestimated 3-4 thousand realeases, and have finally had a couple threads beginning to dangle.
As to your size question, all of your 3x9s mentioned are fit by the SS11. Your 3.5-10s would be a snugger fit, doable, but preferably to the next size up, the SS12.
Hope I got to it all for you. Good Hunting from ScopeShield Alaska!
Cut a strip out of an inner tube. Ugly, but functional.
This of course is what the inventor, Jon Stram, Prince of Wales Island Alaska, as well as most Alaskan hunters and outfitters at the time, had been using. Recognizing the deficiencies of innertubes, Jon began cutting up old waders. He then realized that the keeper loop would then eliminate the throwaway function, and further added the gloves-on pulltab for instant release...and ScopeShields were born. It's just a matter of whether one wants to engage the process in its old beginnings, innertubes, or at its current culmination, ScopeShields.
Please enlighten us on the deficiencies of innertubes. Also, I never realized that I had to throw the inner tube away every time I removed it. Pockets are a wonderful thing.
Not to dwell on the obvious, but distractions, additional motions, and additional time spent may be detrimental to a fleeting shot opportunity.
These are the only type of scope covers that I feel are worth having:
These particular ones are swarovski but others have the same basic design. They've got clear plastic in each cover so you can shoot with them on, there's no hassling with flip up covers or trying to get them off if a quick shot opportunity occurs. When you get on stand just take them off and stow them.
I think I will have to try a Scope shield. I need covers for a Zeiss Conquest 3-9x40, a Leupold Vari-X ii, 3-9x40, and a Sightron S2 3-9x42. Will I be able to use the same cover with all 3 scopes?
I like that idahoelkhunter is sticking around to answer questions.. Most of the guys selling stuff here run away when the questions come flooding. The design looks good and effective. I think I'll be ordering one. Can't wait to see some of the reviews.
Edited to add: Maybe I won't be ordering. I see the are affiliated with Winterhawk Outfitters under the hot links tab. I won't have anything to do with them.
I think I will have to try a Scope shield. I need covers for a Zeiss Conquest 3-9x40, a Leupold Vari-X ii, 3-9x40, and a Sightron S2 3-9x42. Will I be able to use the same cover with all 3 scopes?
Hi VAhuntr, your scope lengths are as follows: Zeiss Conq 3-9x40 12.9" ScopeShield recommended cover size = SS12 Leupold VXII 3-9x40 12.3" ScopeShield recommended cover size = SS11 Sightron S2 3-9x42 12.6" ScopeShield recommended cover size = SS12
All could be covered by the SS12,though the fit will be more relaxed on your Leupy.
I have used Butler Creek flip ups for over 20 years and have only had one break. It was too small and was stretched to its limit. It should have broken much sooner than it did.
Scope Bandanas crack me up. BC's have no peer and I've many sets with 10,000+ round counts on them and untold miles they've been slogged through the worst schit that there is. With 150-180 inches of rain a year,I get to put a pretty good lick on goods,without even trying and I never was one to baby my riggin'.
Nothing is ever dry in these parts and this is just in the last month.
Currently blowing 50mph+ with Monsoon rains,to arrange a genuine Chinook,so I think I'll take some BC's streamside and beat on some Chrome,while hoping for an Otter or a Woof. You girls brag up Scope Bandanas and pretend you've a [bleep] clue.
I have used the Butler Creeks for years always been great until this month. I had 2 new ones snap off. I saw the one break I barely hit it from the side with my hand. The quality has fallen way off. Spence
I often use the scope body as a grab/carry handle. The LEU Scope Smith cover does not interfere with my ability to grasp the tube, but obviously, the Scopesmith is not one I'd use beyond storage in the safe. Is the material used on the Scope Shield such that I could grasp the scope like a handle? Or is it such that it would preclude using the scope as a handle??
The specific scope I have in mind is a S&B 1.1-4x24 Zenith. The factory S&B bikini cover with see through lenses is utter garbage. I do not like the fit of either the BC or Weaver covers on this particular scope, and thought the Scope Shield may be the ticket as long as I could grab the tube.
I often use the scope body as a grab/carry handle. The LEU Scope Smith cover does not interfere with my ability to grasp the tube, but obviously, the Scopesmith is not one I'd use beyond storage in the safe. Is the material used on the Scope Shield such that I could grasp the scope like a handle? Or is it such that it would preclude using the scope as a handle??
The specific scope I have in mind is a S&B 1.1-4x24 Zenith. The factory S&B bikini cover with see through lenses is utter garbage. I do not like the fit of either the BC or Weaver covers on this particular scope, and thought the Scope Shield may be the ticket as long as I could grab the tube.
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Hi Gary, I regularly grab my covered Leupy by the tube. The neoprene is soft and flexible, so my fingers actually nearly surround the tube making for a good grab, rifle and all. It is possible you might grab the tube, if you did so with very little grip, (not likely since you are going to pick up the rifle weight) and have the cover slip off, but a with a properly fitting ScopeShield it would be difficult to do. Additionally, we guarantee satisfaction so if it's function was not to your liking, we send a prepaid return envelope and either change size or refund completely, your choice.
Your Schmidt&Bender Zenith 1.1-4x24 is 11.2 inches in length and the recommended fit is our 10" cover, the SS10.
Another fine day to fill a ScopeShield full of [bleep] water,ice and snow. Sandbagged a bit,as winds were closer to 80,than 50...though they've waned a bit after dark.
Still only about a single degree above freezing on the salt.
Upstream,it's frozen.
Hunkered in the Old Growth for a reprieve,it ain't so bad.
Parting shot for the Purists.
Awaiting the ScopeShield Tactical Fastener system,so you boobs can velcro your cough Silencers to them.
The one IdahoElkHunter sent me to trial came super quick. Looks to be really well made. I won't have a chance to trial it later this winter but when I do I'll report back. I think I'm going to test it side by side of the bikini covers zip tied to the scope for compassion.
Uncle Mike's/Storm Queen scope covers--best dam scope covers ever made.
Alas, they don't have push buttons, batteries, or dials, so the yuppies wouldn't buy them, consequently, Uncle Mike's stopped making them, except for Burris.......
Is this where I get to joke, for a change, about how hard y'all seem to making something that is simple?
Butler Creeks aren't perfect, but they stay closed and generally don't break for me. I did break the red button on one. Once. I've had them leak in all-day rain exposure before (but mostly not leak).
Where I hunt deer the range is often very close. Even the little "fwoop" they make opening can be a problem. When I've messed with bikini covers (I own one) there's too much motion and noise to get them off.
Anyway I'm just surprised to see so many having trouble with the BC's.
My BC troubles were basically that on one rifle, the bolt/scope clearance is close enough that the cap interfered, and on the other rifle, BC did not make a cap in a size that fit correctly. Otherwise, I probably would have been plenty happy using them.
Too [bleep] funny! Scope Bandanas for those unable to operate BC's,a Storm Queen muse,reiteration on how boolit boxes are daunting to open and all frosted poignantly by someone with a schit scope.
Scope Shield should really give SERIOUS thought to neoprene head covers,as helmets for the addled. Chin straps wouldn't be a bad idea either,though assuredly,velcro will stump many of it's users.
Very nice product with outstanding service. The ripped loop was NOT a defect in the ScopeShield but my super sized poutine chomping brother-in-law hauling himself up to his feet by grabbing the nearest available thing. IdahoElkHunter knew it was user induced, and knew I was using the factory Zeiss bikini cover as an interim. Regardless, he wished me a good hunting season, insisted it was on the house, and shipped a new replacement out right quick. Pulling the release loop back just a tad shucks the cover off quietly without any fuss. Unlike the originals, the current BC caps are garbage; the ScopeShield works well for me, I like supporting a fellow hunter who's passionate about a good product, and backs it up.
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As to tough, there is nothing you could do in normal usage which will destroy it. We did just replace one for a hunter in Quebec whose partner placed the loop around a thick tree staub and attempted to do a chin-up by pulling down on the ScopeShield. He ripped the loop out of the cover, to no one's surprise. So they, like me, are not invulnerable to exceptional abuse.
This schit is cracking me up. You gals sure put alotta [bleep] miles on alotta couches and get to practice your Imaginations often.
Pardon this morning's rain,wind and snow...along with zero confirmations. Happily awaiting the next installment of the ScopeShield [bleep] Near Done Sumptin' Chronicles.
Hopefully the helmets will be one size fits all,so you gals don't botch that too!
Asked my Wingman if he wanted a ScopeShield for Xmas.
Is this where I get to joke, for a change, about how hard y'all seem to making something that is simple?
Butler Creeks aren't perfect, but they stay closed and generally don't break for me. I did break the red button on one. Once. I've had them leak in all-day rain exposure before (but mostly not leak).
Where I hunt deer the range is often very close. Even the little "fwoop" they make opening can be a problem. When I've messed with bikini covers (I own one) there's too much motion and noise to get them off.
Anyway I'm just surprised to see so many having trouble with the BC's.
I can recall several times over the last decade of guiding sitting in the lodge trying to get a client's push-button yuppie flippie uppie scope covers to come open when they're supposed to......recall one set that worked great next to the stove, but out in the cold........
If it don't have batteries, or buttons, or dials, the yuppies won't buy it these days.........
You wanna know one of the best ways I've found to knock a rifle out of line?
Carry it around by the scope.
Got to agree it isn't in the best practices manual, but often grab the danged thing that way anyway. Never carry, but often lift by the scope.
Kinda making a statement, so here you go:
Disagree, I find the scope to make an outstanding carry handle when you need a solid one-hand purchase on a rifle. Perfectly balanced, perfect control, easy transition. Never had a single scope issue in doing such, ever. But, none of these rifles were ever heavy and none of these scopes were ever big. I've done worse things to a scope than this, so I seriously doubt you could possibly tweak a fixed LEU any measurable degree by using it as a handle. I certainly hope this new S&B is not somehow a more fragile gun sight than a fixed LEU. If it is more fragile, I'll pull it off the rifle.
BTW, I'm going to order that scope shield to fit this S&B. Neither the Weaver nor either of the BCs fit this particular scope well at all, period. They make an ill fitting combination. I'd just as soon run the scope naked, but I'd like to have something to keep junk off the glass during the interim, which is also simple to go on and off. The plain jane inner tube is simple, the scope shield is clearly a better version of the simple tube. In my case, the BCs are undoable for this S&B. Result, I'll give JB's recommendation a try.
Who cares if the scope shield gets soaking wet. I used neoprene during my days of running kayaks and squirt boats in some of the most extreme big water this country has to offer, it works fine when wet. In addition, my scopes have always work well when wet and no BC cover can keep the glass dry in wet weather, unless they're kept shut and never opened.
+1 on the Uncle Mike's Quick detachable scope covers. The were an exact fit for each end of the scope lens. One thumb on the back cover removed both the front and back covers. They did not fly away as there was a a elastic line attached to the gun. But they are no longer available.
Is this where I get to joke, for a change, about how hard y'all seem to making something that is simple?
Butler Creeks aren't perfect, but they stay closed and generally don't break for me. I did break the red button on one. Once. I've had them leak in all-day rain exposure before (but mostly not leak).
Where I hunt deer the range is often very close. Even the little "fwoop" they make opening can be a problem. When I've messed with bikini covers (I own one) there's too much motion and noise to get them off.
Anyway I'm just surprised to see so many having trouble with the BC's.
I can recall several times over the last decade of guiding sitting in the lodge trying to get a client's push-button yuppie flippie uppie scope covers to come open when they're supposed to......recall one set that worked great next to the stove, but out in the cold........
If it don't have batteries, or buttons, or dials, the yuppies won't buy it these days.........
I'm actually liking the looks of the Scopeshield.
Casey
Butler Creeks are yuppie-duppie? I did not realize this.
I bought my first set because they were cheap, simple, and I didn't like the other stuff I'd tried.
Bought the subsequent 10-odd sets because the first set worked pretty well. Not to say they've been perfect.
The Leup Alumina's are nice, but the tabs are a little small. And then you're stuck with a Leupold scope.
You wanna know one of the best ways I've found to knock a rifle out of line?
Carry it around by the scope.
Got to agree it isn't in the best practices manual, but often grab the danged thing that way anyway. Never carry, but often lift by the scope.
Kinda making a statement, so here you go:
Disagree, I find the scope to make an outstanding carry handle when you need a solid one-hand purchase on a rifle. Perfectly balanced, perfect control, easy transition. Never had a single scope issue in doing such, ever. But, none of these rifles were ever heavy and none of these scopes were ever big. I've done worse things to a scope than this, so I seriously doubt you could possibly tweak a fixed LEU any measurable degree by using it as a handle. I certainly hope this new S&B is not somehow a more fragile gun sight than a fixed LEU. If it is more fragile, I'll pull it off the rifle.
BTW, I'm going to order that scope shield to fit this S&B. Neither the Weaver nor either of the BCs fit this particular scope well at all, period. They make an ill fitting combination. I'd just as soon run the scope naked, but I'd like to have something to keep junk off the glass during the interim, which is also simple to go on and off. The plain jane inner tube is simple, the scope shield is clearly a better version of the simple tube. In my case, the BCs are undoable for this S&B. Result, I'll give JB's recommendation a try.
Who cares if the scope shield gets soaking wet. I used neoprene during my days of running kayaks and squirt boats in some of the most extreme big water this country has to offer, it works fine when wet. In addition, my scopes have always work well when wet and no BC cover can keep the glass dry in wet weather, unless they're kept shut and never opened.
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If a scope is mounted high enough to facilitate use as a carry handle, why not simply use the receiver itself as a handle? That way there is no chance of torquing the scope tube into losing zero.
I've personally seen this with two rifles. One; a 77/22 with a 4x Leupold; I carried via the scope quite a bit at about age 10-12. It lost zero on many occasions.....until a sling arrived via Santa! A friend had a Rem 700 with some sort of cheap scope (tasco,bushnell,simmons,or some such junk) that he took to using as a handle, with the same results. I talked him out of the habit, and it held zero a bit better! Finally bought himself a Leupold 6x with Talleys - now it stays in line.
I was completely cured of this form of carry via several Army NCOs and thier love of smoking the schit out of any Private they saw carrying thier M16 around by the "Carrying Handle".
When did BC change the covers? I have some older ones with the red tabs that have been on the same guns in the field since at least 1995 without a problem. This year I popped two sets of new ones on the same hunt and it was nothing to demanding, rifle spent 90% of its time in a Kifaru gunslinger. I was told to avoid anything with the yellow button and that seems to be holding true.
You wanna know one of the best ways I've found to knock a rifle out of line?
Carry it around by the scope.
I have carried my rifles for years by the scope tube. Leupold and Swarovski suggested no problems by doing so. Has worked well for me as I do not use a sling.
I reveived mine in very quick order. It appears to be well made, and works as advertised. Quiet and quick to remove. I may have to get used to its looks, though. Function is as function does I guess.
Thank you to all the campfire members who have read up on and also ordered ScopeShield riflescope covers here on the campfire. This may be by far the best forum I have found for expertise in every realm of shooting and hunting.
ScopeShield Alaska is, and intends to remain, a sponsor of the 24hourcampfire.com.
I got a couple Alaska Scope Shields to try them out before converting all my rifles to them. Used them on a Kodiak and SE AK hunts this year. Gotta say though only 14 days in the field with them thus far, but in pretty cold/rain environments they beat the heck out of flip ups...but mostly everyone already knew that.
IdahoElkHunter: I have been using the ScopeShield scope covers you "fronted" me and they have worked just wonderfully for me these past coupl'a weeks! They stay on as I hike about with the Rifle slung over my shoulder and they provide complete protection from snow and the elements! And as one who takes pride in keeping my gear in working order and looking as best as can be these ScopeShield units will help me do that - I am sure. They are "quiet" and "quick" to employ and deploy. I am sending payment in full on January 3rd - once the Post Office re-opens here after the Holiday. You have a great product there. Thanks again for your generosity and thoughtfulness. Happy New Year to you and your'n! Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
I've also been using the Scope Shield Alaska cover and so far I really like it. I've only gotten to use it for 1 day of hunting so far though, so I hope to test it out extensively over the last week of hunting season and then write a review on it.
Jesus God,you do-nothing [bleep]'s are a bunch of sorry [bleep].
Was home 5 minutes to change duds,grab gear and roll. BC's still have no equal,taped muzzles are yet another key and lotsa good schit happens when you pry your pooty from the couch.
I'm on pins & needles awaiting your "critique" of a whole week of "Hunting".
Had a fair morning,considering the hurricane winds and the [bleep] monsoon. You do-nothin' poozies keep telling yourself that you's really putting the goods to the test.
All the pictures of [bleep] phish with the ghay colored stocks can't hide the phact that you're still a [bleep] phag.
Laffin'
Cream Puff,
You couldn't muster the savvy or the means,to Field Test a ziploc,though your "experience" undoubtedly makes you a big hit at parties...because you could quantify succinctly and in the firsthand,as to what a rubber tastes like. Undoubtedly them taste tests keeps you in free beer,though curiously enough you could fill a Medical Journal with your revelations that a pounding sensation in your azzhole was your first sign of AIDS.
Weren't my intention to horn you up,though in fairness,it'd be tough to fault your taste in men. The pun be intended and tis a shame that you are too stupid to cypher same,but it will grant you opportunity to practice more with your Imagination and hopefully obliviously flaunt more of the same.
Due my gracious nature,I gotta burst yet another of your bubbles and matter of factly cite that I married a whole bunch better than well. I is a Heartbreaker.
It's ok Stick, someday you'll catch a steelhead :p .Been hitting the inner-city (concrete forest) for Steel, gotta time it when the temperature is up in the positives which we're getting less and less time in. I did poorly (running a bouncer to death) while my partners fired hardware and buckled rods, I guess I came in handy for holding the camera . Here's a couple teasers, sorry the SAUM isnt in the pics, something tells me the locals wouldnt take kindly to me toting her, and taking pokes at their pooches while they played fetch
As a rule I'm Running & Gunning/Casting & Blasting solo...not many like to get as wet and as cold as I,under the auspice of fun. Tough to wrangle a tripod into the fray and get a scald upon focus and composition in the perpetual deluge. Not a fan of a shutter release being in the frame,though I do seem to get my money's worth outta the 1D3's self timer for various applications,which typically involve dragging the shutter.
Between Sports and school,it's tough to pry the kids away from prior commitments and I'm slow to steal them away from same. Sister is away on yet another B-ball Tourney for nearly a week,so that's a gyp. Will have a 10yr old Wingman this morning,so opportunity will be ripe for pics and despite my deafness...it do sound like there's some weather out there to spice things up,unless SAC has B-52's taking off out of the backyard.(grin)
I use 400 Steelhead as a relative barometer of evaluation for a year's merit. 200 in the Winter and an equal number in the Spring,but typically stomp that number all to hell. Running & Gunning is my favorite way to dupe victims,covering lotsa ground and flicking into the shadows,though I'm quick to toss big tides and copious rainfall into my arsenal,by focusing far lower than most on a given system and cutting things off at the pass. The key is a good set of cork shoes,a slung Otter/Woof rifle and predator instincts.
Love my ShamWow but it's tough on fur,even though Otters is wired together far more ruggedly than most Critters. That being said,I tote a myriad of wares,but cain't seem to walk past my 223AI Rocktucky less grabbing hold of same. It's made alotta rifles jealous and I've far more than alotta rifles.
Coming full circle,if it ain't BC's you are pissing up a [bleep] rope,though I always enjoy the harrowing Tales of the Do-Nothing Gang and the schit that they almost did,in a place they almost was,with gear they nearly had. Priceless humor all! Here's hoping they remain powerless in their refrain to fuel that fire,as few appreciate a good belly laugh more than I.
Sure wish I had a trappers license (and therefor permission to shoot such critters as beavers, etc), they're hard to aquire in this Liberal [bleep] (Ontario, Canada). Went hunting for Steelhead through the ice at an inland lake this morning, we were told we'd only get 1-2 bites each for our efforts, but they'd be nice. They were right. We were jigging 1/16 oz Bucktails tipped with wax worms, sight fishing through the hole. I missed my chance on a 10+ pounder, set the hook too soon and missed. My partner didnt though...
Well below AK standards, but impressive for Ontario (especially inland) 10 pounds some odd ounces.
Hello ranger1. Grew up in Glasgow, often homesick for hunting there, particularly on the Charley Russell. Your location?
It is good the BC's have worked for you thus far. And for a long time they were all that was available. No one who has used ScopeShields has concluded they are not a superior solution for use in the field.
I've always used BC Blizzards. They work well, and don't break on me because I rarely have to flip them open. I just shoot while looking through them, unless I need the last ounce of brightness and clarity that my scope can offer, which doesn't seem to happen very often.
Had to be gusting close to 70mph this morning,the monsoon incessant and the tide a Big 'Un. Wingman done just fine,as per always and we put it on the Chrome.
Retaped the barrel and slogged away,as per always...BC's never miss a [bleep] lick.
In fairness however,I do very much enjoy the hilarity associated with a Snake Oil Salesman espousing "No one who has used ScopeShields has concluded they are not a superior solution for use in the field." Holy [bleep] schit,it'd take a right proper Jerry Lewis Telethon to corral that many clueless dumbphucks into a compilation of such outright stupidity,in one fell swoop.
Of course lotsa schit "works" just fine on the couch.
From Shakespeare's Hamlet, Act III, scene II. The phrase has come to mean that one can "insist so passionately about something not being true that people suspect the opposite of what one is saying.
Not that you're smart enough to know when to shut your mouth...
From Shakespeare's Hamlet, Act III, scene II. The phrase has come to mean that one can "insist so passionately about something not being true that people suspect the opposite of what one is saying.
Not that you're smart enough to know when to shut your mouth...
K-She and Ackleymam feigning a clue,can only be topped by JeffO's harrowing tale on how cardboard poses an impossibility to be opened.
You Do-nothin' Dumbphucks are boundless in your enthusiasm to perpetuate the realities of your gross ineptitude,with "experience" garnered from the couch and "exploits" bolstered solely by Imagination.
Both of your paychecks bolted together would mandate a cosigner on my powder bill alone...but "luckily" for you both,pretend is free.
You go girls!
Beware the "heavy hitter" who rates a 3pt Rat as being worthy of an Avatar,because you know she's really in the "know".
Neither your "experience" or "knowledge" is "fair"...though your innate ability to be stumped by simplistic tasks,is certainly appreciated for it's intrinsic humor.
Never been to Orygun,though I'd be suplized to learn that ScopeShields is viable,due what I've heard in that AO's regard.
Kudos to you gals that need a chin strap on their stocking caps.
It's too bad they don't make one of those BC covers in midget, pie hole size.
I'm still haunted by the pic he posted of himself sporting a hat, his tighty-whities and some shoes. The only thing whiter than his tighty-whities was his body, posed in the classic body-builder double-bicep pose. However, someone should have told him you need a minimum of muscle tone to pull that pose off. He failed miserably.
If rounding up a 3pt to a 4x3 was your "point",it's testimony that you've zero experience with points. Sadly the pun will be missed and your mouth will simply go agape and it'll fly over your pointy head. Let's just hope it won't further fuel your already blazing fires of doubt and you suddenly see the light and feel compelled to remove the Rat as an avatar pic. Too much humor would be lost in the fray!
Hardly "fascinated" by your incredible ineptitude and copious stupidity,but certainly do get a giggle outta your attempts at "experience" and "advice" correlated by same.
Bless your heart and them crossed-eyes!
IEH,
Much enjoying your Snake Oil/Smoke Screen Ruse and it was an exceptionally poignant touch to quantify everyone you run with,as being [bleep] nearly as stupid as you. You "hard charging" gals are really on fire,next it will be "Testimony" that you get 35yrs outta a pair of boots,your knife has never need sharpened and that you are "fulfilled" by trying! [bleep] love this schit,you [bleep] idiots couldn't poor piss out of a boot.
JG,
A Texan talking about anything other than barbed wire,is destined to be an instant Classic and Toots...it's a shame you cain't process same.
MagnumDouche,
Pardon my innate ability to horn you up,though it's old news and you certainly hang on every word and pixel. You're THE Queen Of Living Vicariously and The Princess Of Plagiarism. I've no doubt that PETA funds all your "activities" in the sole interest of assuring nothing gets harmed,as you are the consumate Do-Nothing Blowhard Dumb [bleep].
As this is a Leap Year,it'll be time for your "uncanny" connect percentages to be on display and you might accidentally back over a Turkey with your Golf Cart. As per always,your pics are "compelling" and really tell a "story".
Laffin'!
Curiously enough,yesterday weren't quite beautiful weather wise either,much to the chagrin of the Do-Nothing Gang and their foot stools. Let's hope them realities don't subdue the sanctity of their collective Imaginations...because the Outdoors ain't for everyone,especially the REAL Outdoors as opposed to the Texas Version with it's haybales,feeders,barbed wire,ear tags,pet names and shooting houses.
[bleep] me running,you are a sorry bunch of [bleep] retards.
Pardon the BC's,taped muzzle and scenes from outside...you go girls! As an aside moly/moisture hurts bores,light barrels don't shoot,Leupie's don't hold a zero,A Loomis 1141-S GLX is far too light for Winter Steelhead,the Stradic 2500 won't cut the mustard especially when spooled with 30lb PP,the Canon 1D3/17-40L won't fend weather,corks is over rated and a ScopeShield is a great way to keep schit dry.
Keep it coming girls,there's no stopping your "prowess".
Just don't copy that goofy pic of him playing body builder - it made me nauseous. Usually, being short is an advantage in body building; he couldn't even pull it off with his dwarf-like stature.
Great photos all, but I flat out love the one copied above.
As to Butler Creek scope covers, I am aggravated at them but like them better than anything I've used so far. I break at least one per year on average per rifle. (My couch is rough on scopes for this old geezer, Stick! ) Broke one last week and scavenged one from another rifle so I could hunt snow and rain over the past three days. It didn't quite fit but a wrap of tape abound the eyepiece end snugged it up and it worked well.
I've not cared for the marketing strategy here at the 'fire but am about to try a scope shield.
You are at the mercy of your intellect and perceptors,so I'll feign my "surprise" that EXIF stumps you as easily as everything else does. Though I guess you GOTTA tell yourself something and concoct a ruse to satiate your sad Realities?!? Bless your [bleep] Do-Nothing heart and that copious Imagination of your's...ain't it poignant that Pretend fulfills your "drive" and "determination" to the brim?!!? I'm always impressed with the lengths you'll go to and the hoops you'll happily jump through,to perpetually reiterate your incredible [bleep] stupidity and quantify your couch time.
Laffin',because I KNOW it's the best you can do!
JG,
Always enjoy the "experience" you flaunt from the trenches of a Game Feeder,your "insight" is consumate humor and that you muster it on accident,only adds to it's prescience.
I betcha' 'bout once got dust on your Cough Silencer,in one of your "rough and tumble" outings...though undoubtedly you could suck your way out.
You go girl!
MagnumDouche,
Your fixation is both palpable and founded,shoot me a PM with an addy and I'll send you the skivvies I'll wear today in the Outdoors,so you know what the Outdoors smells like. To horn you up even more,take it to the bank that it'll waft in passing the subtle fragrant olfactory tinge of fresh Fish. Tis a perpetual shame that you haven't the faculties to know a good pun,though in fairness there's more than one.
Happy Imagination to you and as per always,your commentary in regards to your jaunts are "compelling". It assuredly is no small feat that in nearly 10yrs of trying,that you are as of yet fully incapable of proffering a pic of you with as much as a dead Squirrel...yet gorge vicariously on the buffets arranged by others. No need to reiterate that Imagination will only getcha' so far,as it's long gone without saying,that few talk out their ass more than you and undoubtedly you are quite proud of the "accomplishment".
Film at 11:00 and the skivvies may take a spell,if only because the weather is currently doing no favors.
'nagan,
Tough for me to pick a favorite pic from these past few days,as it's been pretty good diggings all in all. Taking all into context and weighing the inherent difficulties of getting C&R victims to cooperate while solo,I'd prolly have to side with the volumetric side of the equation,despite most being "prettier"...though I'm a sucker for fall plumage. Beings I specified a 21.5" Mike Rock replacement spout on my Rocktucky,it skews it's OAL to 41.50",which do sorta lend an inkling to splendor. Tough to get things laid out straight,skin back and slap the shutter,while trying to coax cooperation from the gift of light. Much easier to punch them in the ear,pop a gill an arrange a right proper compilation of bloody pixels as I happily do Salmon.
As to BC's in particular,I've quite a bit better than 100 sets and have only broken one of the older style red flippers,due to a none too gracious spill I took on a mountain. It did the ocular no favors either,but an immediate zero confirmation check was rewarding in it's divulgence of POA/POI yet being in synch. Given the amount time I spend toting rifles so equipped and the round count generated by those forays,that is easily incredible as a minimum. Couple same with 180" of rain a year and toss 20yrs of same into the fray and it's easy to establish track records of repute,in extrapolation,as I've used everything and have crafted attempts to find The Grail. BC's simply have no peer,nor is anything else even in the same League.
I've tried to purposely break them and still found them chooglin' along nicely,but admittedly I don't tote a rifle haphazardly,whether in my mitts or lashed to a pack.
If/when something comes along that is better,rest assured I'll sing it's praise and whole heartedly make the switch...but a scope purse ain't it,nor close.
Hello Okanogan! We look forward to you trying out a ScopeShield and comparing to all else that you have used. That is the heart of all rational evaluating.
Some have had good results with a product and have never felt the need to compare that product with anything else, which is perfectly proper.
However, without having experience with anything else, yet proclaiming that the uncompared product is the best in the world for its use is not a comparison at all! It is a judgement based on results using solely one item. Essentially comparing an apple to the very same apple.
I did want to quickly reply to your concern about marketing here on the 24hourcampfire. We sponsors pay for the privilege of being here, and, in addition to the fun of it, it is indeed advertising for our company. Rick Bin has built a very successful operation here, and one thing he encourages is for sponsors to be interactive with the members. I attempt to avoid too much intrusiveness, nor to offend most members, while all the while promoting one of the most remarkable hunting products I have seen in years, the ScopeShield scope cover.
As JB pointed out, I may sometimes push the envelope, or be a little different than other sponsors (wow does my wife agree with the "different" part) but my overall philosophy is that the campfire should be as enjoyable and pleasant as chat around a real campfire. The fact that we can exchange experience and viewpoints to the benefit of all is why most members are here.
With all that in mind, it is also important for you to identify if you are troubled by anything we do for no company ever wishes to offend potential customers, or friends either!
[quote=Ackleyfan]I've tried to purposely break them and still found them chooglin' along nicely,but admittedly I don't tote a rifle haphazardly,whether in my mitts or lashed to a pack.
If/when something comes along that is better,rest assured I'll sing it's praise and whole heartedly make the switch...but a scope purse ain't it,nor close.
I've puzzled a little over our different experience. Not sure why I keep breaking them but here is a guess: They pop open unintentionally and then break the hinge. Sometimes the front ear or rear red tab on mine will open from catching brush, riding wrong on a pack or getting mauled among other gear in a vehicle. Once open, the hinge breaks easily if it gets a side force. If they are fully down on a scope bell that fits them, they are stronger and stay closed better. If they are not all the way down, with the BC plastic cylinder sticking out unsupported past the end of the scope they are more vulnerable, and it is my fault that I broke one or two that way.
This last one may not have broken. It was simply gone. I had climbed a wooly spruce with the rifle slung on my back. I knew I should have left it on the ground and pulled it up with a cord but was in a hurry. Had to cut a few limbs on the way up. It was an impromptu decision, made on the spot to fit the situation as most of my stands are. I thought I'd try the gentleman eastern tree stand technique, but after sitting on a spruce limb for awhile I can't understand the appeal of tree stand hunting, but I digress.
Have a great year. Looks like you are off to a good start.
I suppose I could prolly try to pop 'em open to see what happened,but it ain't how I roll.(grin) If/when covering lotsa ground,the rifle goes over my neck and a shoulder so it lays against my back(muzzle up)...or it gets secured to my pack which also precludes things being opened,unless I want them to be.
When schlepping on the prowl,my rifle is seldom shouldered and I very typically carry it balanced amidship with it's belly nestled in my strongside palm. When punching through the Jungle I either thread the muzzle through the best opening or actually break trail with it still palmed by the belly and push through with the "grain" commensurate to the way the caps close,with the glass running vertical roughly chest high(or whatever it takes to keep things out of my eyes). Easy to be afforded finite control and ever privvy to the status of the arm and it's glass,when done so.
I like to Run & Gun and tend to cover lotsa ground from sweetspot to sweetspot,then slow the pace,play the wind and grind things out. I'm no Limb Sitter either and much prefer a more hands on approach,winging conditions as they change as that's more than half the fun.
Still hammering Bucks with a Call? Pretty serious honk going on here,but I was hoping to play with the Wolves ala FX3 and a fresh run of 62TTSX I just finished...but today ain't the day.
IEH,
The Scope Purse is an Age old "solution" to nothing,other than fleecing clueless boobs outta loot. Have tried them all,both in Commercial offerings and a multitude of self crafted means...neoprene typically being the route. Just one of the "luxuries" of wearing out waders with reckless abandon. I've used everything thus far mentioned in this Thread and as Scope Purses go,the Scope Coat is far and away the best,mainly because it doesn't suffer the superfluous fore attachment point and the foolish elastic bullschit to hang up on schit and dangle like a dick sticking out of MagnumDouche's mouth. I can sorta suffer the Lens Coat in some camera lens applications,but it's largely a farce too. 'Bout the only thing I like in neoprene is my Zeiss Spotter,because it can be wrapped in a plastic sack to preclude moisture intrusion,where as a Scope Purse cannot. Cain't like any of my camera bodies in them either,though I've made 'em with buckles,drawstrings and velcro flaps.
Anywhoo...I much enjoy your Imagination and the brainfarts you are able to reliably conjure,due to same.
GREAT time to hang some pics of you with Superlative Beasties slain in the most trying of conditions and reflection on how a Scope Purse allowed you to connect the dots...but you'll have to pardon my laughing at your awkward silence well in advance,because Imagination ain't no match for reality.
Hey GI Joe, I could buy all your gear with my pocket change. Show me one pic of me by a feeder and I'll send you $1000. Nice try, though. I"d like to tell you to grow up, but unfortunately you already are ( life ain't fair, is it? )
Just don't copy that goofy pic of him playing body builder - it made me nauseous. Usually, being short is an advantage in body building; he couldn't even pull it off with his dwarf-like stature.
I thought that was a cover to the last Village People album at first, but the Village People person is about 2 feet taller than GI Joe.
Just don't copy that goofy pic of him playing body builder - it made me nauseous. Usually, being short is an advantage in body building; he couldn't even pull it off with his dwarf-like stature.
I thought that was a cover to the last Village People album at first, but the Village People person is about 2 feet taller than GI Joe.
Stick do you run Moly on everything you shoot in the Montana 223 AI?
TG,
I whistle moly in everything centerfire,save some Nostalgic MBR's slated to Ball.
Texas Twins(JG/MD),
As per always,your Imagination falls well shy of realization...though you two sorry [bleep] can't proffer fertilization,which is your perpetual consternation,founded on your gesticulation of information,all of which is grossly lacking in pixelation. Though in fairness,the Do-Nothing Swan Song of you Day Dreaming Dumb [bleep] is...fraught with the reality of your Retardation.
Feel free to flaunt your copious Imaginations and regale in the sanctity of your perpetual DumbPhucktitude.
'nagan, ... Still hammering Bucks with a Call? Pretty serious honk going on here,but I was hoping to play with the Wolves ala FX3 and a fresh run of 62TTSX I just finished...but today ain't the day.
I wouldn't call it hammering but I called a couple of bucks this Fall in a season when work kept me from hunting deer much. I've been experimenting with calling mule deer bucks and have called several, killed two of them. About Dec. 1 I called a blacktail buck for a young friend but we managed to spook it without killing it.
Thanks for showing me how. I need a refresher course!!
BTW, that palmated moose horn buck is a keeper for sure!
Keep after the wolves. That spruce tree gig was in wolf country, too far a drive for me to hunt them very often.
Since you're gunning both the 1DS and 1DMK3, is there much of a difference in IQ. Or is it akin to picking gnats out of pepper? I'm assuming for wildlife and action shots the 1DMK3 would be the huckleberry due to the faster FR and crop factor?
Any preference as to the BIG brick 24-70mm or 24-105mm?
I buy 'em coated and coat my own...with the Lion's share being coated by me. A slickified 105 'Max is a tough act to follow and hell on wheels.
It rates building a rifle around and then some.
Hint.
Here's 1000 105HPBT's literally making the rounds. Useta segregate X's from cup/cores in tumbling operations,via dedicated bowls for each,but them days is gone. I like to do a minimum of 1000 at a whack,assuming 30cal or less.
'nagan,
I painfully lost my favoritest K'Meer Deer many moons ago and still lament that void,if I can find the contact info I'll get it to you,in regards to an acrylic call that has been doing nice things for all of us. It's crystal clear both physically and in relative tonality,plus it's capable of carrying exceptional volume,if/when one wishes to ply that route. It uses friction tape as a "reed" and holds tone very well and in the most unforgiving of weather patterns. I really should have been wailing away on it yesterday,when chasing the pair of smoking HOT Woof tracks I cut,despite the 50+ mph winds at the time. Sounds like it's gusting 70 or better now,if only for conversation and I'm certain all my tracking snow has Chinooked away...so will make some casts instead.
Anywhoo,the Call is pictured here.
FO',
I prefer '3 files to everything,in regards to IQ. FF hasn't ever horned me up,whether 5D,5D2 or 1DS. The DS is obviously a robust body and has killer AF,but it's frame rate and buffer are exceedingly shallow in their abilities. If you nail exposure,keep ISO's skinned back and shoot with love,it is certainly capable of blowing minds...but the '3 is far more forgiving and versatile. The 1DS is an exceedingly poor choice from which to gun SOOC JPEG's. It was a far better camera at it's unveiling in 2004 for $8000,than it is Today for $1000 used. Too bad both the 5D and 5D2's AF sucks so much ass,or they might be viable for niche pursuits.
APS-H(1.3x) is my favorite DSLR sensor size,though I've got APS-C(1.6x) and FF. The pending 1DX appeals as a curiousity and I can see myself snagging a 1D4 for kicks...but the more I shoot the '3,the more I love it and it is simply amazing in every way. I've squarely beat the hell out of that body and thus far it's only suffered a slight crack near the viewfinder,because I tossed it 20' or so onto the rocks. Surprisingly the attached Siggy 50mm F1.4,was never the worse for wear.
The 1D Mark II N easily remains the most for the least in Today's used market and I'd greedily take it over all of their APS-C offerings,including the 7D...if only because I've shot 'em all.
In regards to the 24-70 or the 24-105,I'll greedily grab the extry 35mm of focal length and gain IS,to trade but one stop of light in the crossfire. One could easily argue the sanctity of melding the 24-105 and a 100-400,to really do it all in but a scant two lenses.
Haha, I took the hint a while back... going to shoot exclusively 105s in one rig nowadays...
Do you dig the 105 BTHPs over the AMAX? Those have caught my eye as well, they sure do have a bitchin' BC.
The A-Max has no peer. Snagged a coupla thousand of the 105 HPBT's for case forming duties and various curiousities.
CLB,
If using a lot of 1000 boolits as a constant number,no more than 10 minutes is required. I ladle them out onto a large bath towel,shake the schit out of the works and perhaps roll them around a smidge and that's it.
It seems that the Snake Oil Salesman's long and awkward silence,is indeed long and awkward and the Texas Teabaggers have run outta Imagination...none of which is surprising. Curiously enough,the weather today did no favors and BC's keep chooglin'. I enjoy hitting Ackleymam with pics a coupla hours old,because it's nearly enough to shame her offa the couch(nearly).
Mixed it up with some Gassers too,if only for giggles.
I'd wager that tomorrow will be yet another Cast & Blast,film at 11:00.
I've been leaning 1D3. With Canon soon to release their new 1D X, I can see gently used 1DMK3 being available for well under 2k.
The 24-105mm with IS do make a lot of sense, especially as I've got a cherry picked "dust pump" 100-400mm that's been sitting on the shelf since selling the 40D.
Thinking before summer I'll have my gear squared away.
Few love Scenars as much as I and they really rule the roost in a coupla diameters,none of which is 6mm.(grin) They [bleep] smoke SMK's and Bergers for terminal affects,but in 6mm the 105 'Max steals the show...it's a phenom.
I oft lament that the World is a far lesser place,with .25cal and 7mm Scenars being devoid. Happiness would be a 115-esque .257" A-Max and a straight up A-Max in .338" too,though they are making gains with their 285 HPBT and it's .700 BC there.
The 105 really puts it on schit.
'ology,
I've never been ascared of the used market and my 1D3 is an early run,squarely in the "affected" serial number range...none of which spooked me. With firmware and mechanical updates,they produce amazing results on the average and will make you hate everything that isn't 1D-Series in comparison. My 1D2N,really put into context that my technique was spot on,but that the machines were letting me down and it was a breath of fresh air to never again question what AF was going to do to me. The 2N's AF is Legendary amongst Canonistas and I'll easily hang like laurels on my 1D3,as it just reliably does schit that seems impossible.
Happiness is a Loomis in one hand,a great rifle slung over a shoulder,a killer camera/body in the pack and cork shoes laced tight...all waiting for daybreak,to see where/how the day unfolds. Hunch is,water volumes dropped and there's fresh tracking snow,which ain't exactly bad things.
...,if I can find the contact info I'll get it to you,in regards to an acrylic call that has been doing nice things for all of us. It's crystal clear both physically and in relative tonality,plus it's capable of carrying exceptional volume,if/when one wishes to ply that route. It uses friction tape as a "reed" and holds tone very well and in the most unforgiving of weather patterns.
Thanks. I'd appreciate the source info if you can locate it without much trouble. I'm using a K'meer, plus once in awhile a Haydel you mentioned, and my own voice quite a bit. The mulie bucks like the sound of my voice! A friend on Vancouver Island does well with the old rubber band between cedar slats. That's tunable but I've used those more for predators.
From "Boxer":It seems that the Snake Oil Salesman's long and awkward silence,is indeed long and awkward..
Not at all awkward, though a bit stunned I will admit, and oddly delighted, that Boxer is, despite all previous evidence, capable of amiable and adult discourse.
always liked the videos of your daughter busting black bears... Good good stuff. Let's see some more of those!
April ain't that far away. It is an intellesting dichotomy of sorts,that a little girl puts more big Critters on the ground than the Snake Oil Salesman,Texas Teabaggers and the rest of the Do-Nothing Gang.
Looks like BC's to me,both in lens caps and Scoring.(grin)
'nagan,
Found it ratholed,while reloading K-Hornet fodder this morning. Took a pic of the business card and will PM it to you,hopefully the contact info remains unchanged,but if that isn't the case...I'll call one of the Grandsons and get the updated skinny. We Hunted/Fished together quite a bit and had a riot doing same. Good folks.
I kill alotta Bucks vocally and it can be very handy to roll in that manner,though it's an inordinate day when I'm not wearing a call around my neck. Flexibility never is a concession. Placing a strand of grass aligned vertically between palms and extended thumbs,is an Age Old favorite ploy of many,to yield a call on the fly. I've made a jazillion calls out of all sorts of material and when I can source rubber bands of my liking,they are easily my preference over the more mainstay pursuit of using a form of tape. The call cited above is a killer design and the only one I'm privy to,that'll stay tuned long term with friction tape as a reed and I've a schit load of handcrafted "commercial" offerings running the gamut.
My approach to calling is different than most and I prefer softer tones and more seduction...and the Bucks can't resist.(grin)
I see more BC's here too.
IEH,
Sucking my ass ain't going to turn a ScopePurse into something it isn't and cannot be,though I gotta admit your "results" with 'em are awe inspiring...give or [bleep] take.
My advice is, if the Butler Creeks work for you, keep on using them.
For me, the new production ones don't work. I've not had a problem with my older set, but the newer ones I've had don't hold up for me. This is a very common issue that's been discussed on many sites, including Opticstalk.com, Snipershide.com, etc. So for the ones of us who keep breaking them, we obviously need to find an alternative. Just because you haven't broken yours doesn't mean that we are having the same luck. No need to come in here, post after post, bashing people who would like an alternative.
My advice is, if the Butler Creeks work for you, keep on using them.
For me, the new production ones don't work. I've not had a problem with my older set, but the newer ones I've had don't hold up for me. This is a very common issue that's been discussed on many sites, including Opticstalk.com, Snipershide.com, etc. So for the ones of us who keep breaking them, we obviously need to find an alternative. Just because you haven't broken yours doesn't mean that we are having the same luck. No need to come in here, post after post, bashing people who would like an alternative.
If the Butler Creeks work for you, that's great.
Much enjoying that you think an elastic powered open ended sack atop your scope,is going to do anything but hang up on schit and concentrate moisture where you least want it?!!? Schit don't get much funnier than that! It was a very nice touch that you prefaced that brainfart with the muse that you were going to "Field Test" the ruse by a "hard" Hunt and then came full circle to reiterate that the piece of [bleep] schit filled up with water,as your "revelation". The only way to top them "findings",would be to hang a pic of what that "Hard Hunt" garnered in regards to punched tags and touch a wee bit on the AO and it's particulars. Laffin' in advance!
Hoping you remain powerless in your refrain to quit while you're well behind,but if not,feel free to cite some "Hunt" particulars,then say a little sumptin' about the rifle,glass and fodder. Dare ya'!
Short jaunt today,due to being snowchow...yet still BC's prevailed.
Laffin'
JG Texas Tea Bagger,
As per always,your Imagination is on fire...undoubtedly due to perpetual practice. Let's toss you some Reality to mull much to your chagrin,though the video of you gunning the BAR was par for your pathetic course.
This is what we in the Business call a "Double Tap",which is a brace of boolits headed to the same aiming point. Give it a whirl some time,but start with your SuperSoaker and slowly work your way up to 22LR.
This what we in the Business call "Barrel Break-in",along with POA/POI melding in the sub .5MOA realm and a correlation to zero integrity,with a touch of atmospheric condition slipping ala copious BC and skookum launch speed. I savvy that it's Greek to you,which would be the point.
My advice is, if the Butler Creeks work for you, keep on using them.
For me, the new production ones don't work. I've not had a problem with my older set, but the newer ones I've had don't hold up for me. This is a very common issue that's been discussed on many sites, including Opticstalk.com, Snipershide.com, etc. So for the ones of us who keep breaking them, we obviously need to find an alternative. Just because you haven't broken yours doesn't mean that we are having the same luck. No need to come in here, post after post, bashing people who would like an alternative.
If the Butler Creeks work for you, that's great.
Much enjoying that you think an elastic powered open ended sack atop your scope,is going to do anything but hang up on schit and concentrate moisture where you least want it?!!? Schit don't get much funnier than that! It was a very nice touch that you prefaced that brainfart with the muse that you were going to "Field Test" the ruse by a "hard" Hunt and then came full circle to reiterate that the piece of [bleep] schit filled up with water,as your "revelation". The only way to top them "findings",would be to hang a pic of what that "Hard Hunt" garnered in regards to punched tags and touch a wee bit on the AO and it's particulars. Laffin' in advance!
Let me guess, you work for Bushnell? That's the only explanation I can think of as to why you'd be so closed minded on any other choices, and think that everyone has to be using the BC caps.
As for the Scope Shield, it's a whole lot better than the Butler Creeks, that broke apart long before I ever had a chance to take them out in the rain storm we had. That said, had the Butler Creeks held together for me like the old sets I have, I'd think they were a great product, but every set of newerish ones I've had have broken in very short order. They do me no good when they are broken, but I do love the idea behind them, and if they held up I'd think they were great.
The Scope Shield Alaska may not be the best product that ever gets produced, or it may end up being, who knows. However, I can say at this moment it's the best I've used that's currently being produced. I've not used everything out there, so I can only comment on what I have used. If you or anyone else has a product that performs better, send me one. I'd be glad to try it out too. If it works better, I'd be glad to keep on using it, and recommend it to anyone that asks me. So far, I've not found anything that works better, and I've had several sets of BC caps, and they certainly don't work better when they are broken. Not to mention, they don't keep any part of the scope dry in any way shape or form either.
Boxer lives in his own pathetic little world, and I do mean little. When you're 4 ft nothing, live a sorry, pathetic existence, and worship pictures of your GIJoe looking self you'd be pissed off at the world too. His posts, pictures, and exaggerated self worth I find laughable, and really a pitiful thing. I wonder if he really thinks anyone cares what he thinks.
If I shot as well and killed as many badazz beasts as Stick did, I'd probably be ok with living in my own world too... My advice would be to try to learn from his posts because there really isn't much that he doesn't know a lot about... I've learned some good stuff reading his posts.
Larry doesn't work for Bushnell, and his reaction has little to do with BC's at all. I think this will explain it though.
NARCISSISTIC PERSONALITY DISORDER Symptoms of this disorder include, but are not limited to:
Reacts to criticism with anger, shame, or humiliation May take advantage of others to reach his or her own goal Tends to exaggerate their own importance, achievements, and talents Imagines unrealistic fantasies of success, beauty, power, intelligence, or romance Requires constant attention and positive reinforcement from others Easily becomes jealous Lacks empathy and disregards the feelings of others Obsessed with oneself Mainly pursues selfish goals Trouble keeping healthy relationships Is easily hurt and rejected Sets unreal goals Wants "the best" of everything Appears as tough-minded or unemotional [3]
The symptoms of Narcissistic personality disorder can be similar to the traits of individuals with strong self-esteem and confidence, differentiation occurs when the underlying psychological structures of these traits are considered pathological. Narcissists have such an elevated sense of self-worth that they value themselves as inherently better than others. Yet, they have a fragile self-esteem and cannot handle criticism, and will often try to compensate for this inner fragility by belittling or disparaging others in an attempt to validate their own self-worth. It is this sadistic tendency that is characteristic of narcissism as opposed to other psychological conditions affecting level of self-worth
The only thing that was missing from this definition was Larry's picture...
My advice is, if the Butler Creeks work for you, keep on using them.
For me, the new production ones don't work. I've not had a problem with my older set, but the newer ones I've had don't hold up for me. This is a very common issue that's been discussed on many sites, including Opticstalk.com, Snipershide.com, etc. So for the ones of us who keep breaking them, we obviously need to find an alternative. Just because you haven't broken yours doesn't mean that we are having the same luck. No need to come in here, post after post, bashing people who would like an alternative.
If the Butler Creeks work for you, that's great.
Much enjoying that you think an elastic powered open ended sack atop your scope,is going to do anything but hang up on schit and concentrate moisture where you least want it?!!? Schit don't get much funnier than that! It was a very nice touch that you prefaced that brainfart with the muse that you were going to "Field Test" the ruse by a "hard" Hunt and then came full circle to reiterate that the piece of [bleep] schit filled up with water,as your "revelation". The only way to top them "findings",would be to hang a pic of what that "Hard Hunt" garnered in regards to punched tags and touch a wee bit on the AO and it's particulars. Laffin' in advance!
Let me guess, you work for Bushnell? That's the only explanation I can think of as to why you'd be so closed minded on any other choices, and think that everyone has to be using the BC caps.
As for the Scope Shield, it's a whole lot better than the Butler Creeks, that broke apart long before I ever had a chance to take them out in the rain storm we had. That said, had the Butler Creeks held together for me like the old sets I have, I'd think they were a great product, but every set of newerish ones I've had have broken in very short order. They do me no good when they are broken, but I do love the idea behind them, and if they held up I'd think they were great.
The Scope Shield Alaska may not be the best product that ever gets produced, or it may end up being, who knows. However, I can say at this moment it's the best I've used that's currently being produced. I've not used everything out there, so I can only comment on what I have used. If you or anyone else has a product that performs better, send me one. I'd be glad to try it out too. If it works better, I'd be glad to keep on using it, and recommend it to anyone that asks me. So far, I've not found anything that works better, and I've had several sets of BC caps, and they certainly don't work better when they are broken. Not to mention, they don't keep any part of the scope dry in any way shape or form either.
I'm the least closed mind person I know and shoot more part/pieces than anyone I've met,seen or heard of and am never not looking for the better way. I stated plainly,that I've used everything mentioned thus far in the thread and a host of others that haven't been. That being a fact,coupled with more than a wee bit of R&D to extrapolate same with,do allow me the luxury of not being forced to guess,which is of course how I roll. Conversely,I do enjoy the pics of your schit rifle,schit mounts,schit glass and nary a scratch on any of it,coupled with a pic of a Scope Purse atop and empty tags as your version of a "Field Test". All of that to denote that the piece of [bleep] schit is a joke in the weather,which is more than evident at a cursory glance. Curiously enough,your Imaginary "Hard Hunt" is Secret Squirrel Classified,because even as dumb as you are,you know it'd be hilarious to bill your Flat Landing Forays as anything they ain't. Groovin' that you threw a little Mall Ninja schit in there too. Can hardly wait until you expound upon your "findings",after having launched 10 whole rounds through that POS.
Let's extrapolate a smidge. Cheer up,I welded the bases on.
Weather do curious things,when goods leave the couch. Try getting out some time,you'll be amazed at whatcha learn and that not all goods is equal nor [bleep] close.
Enjoying too,that you are a Pan Handler looking for gratis goods,so you can put your "convincing" seal of approval on same and score some schit for free. You are a Do-Nothing Day Dreaming Turd Polisher,talking out your ass,as a best case scenario...though it's fitting that you are a victim of both your "intelligence" and "experience" and that both are literal life sentences.
Congratulations?
LG Texas Tea Bagger,
I know facts are more than a trifle unsettling for you and you are The Queen Of Whine. Here's some cheese for you. Congratulations too,on Spanish being your State language!
In fairness,your Legacy is consumate Douche-Baggery frosted copiously with playing Pretend with your Imagination and the never ending bitch session on how your Life is unfair. Go buy yourself a helmet today and put it on,then head right back to the couch where it's safe. I'll happily continue to feed your vicarious angst and take you places you could never get to and show you sights you'd never see,as my gracious nature is boundless and I'm happy to help those farrrrrrrrrrr less fortunate.
It's how I roll.
SamO,
For conversation,aligning BC's other than with their hinge atop both ocular and objective,is a recipe for concession. Firstly,on a right hand bolt,that keeps the flipper as far away as possible from the bolt and it's cycle path. Secondly,it precludes blocking acuity as per acquisition of a victim,because the greatest percentage of victim travel is going to be to port or starboard on the horizon. Thirdly,as the arm is shouldered,both hands are in a default position to actuate both caps in nano-seconds.
Just sayin'.
K-She,
Your insecurities are palpable and you've a great point,that a 3pt don't rate an Avatar...but beings you is a victim of your "intellect","experience","drive",determination" and "mastery" of the Outdoors,you sadly gotta do the best you can,with what little you got. Bless your heart.
I always enjoy your Estrogen fueled rants and eloquent commentary on how you are incapable of connecting dots and that it's always someone else's "fault". On the brightside,you is rather gifted in your first hand accountings of your Vagina Monologues and always give particulars the widest of births. Pun be intended,but someone will haveta 'splain it to you.
There's enough of you Do-Nothing Dumbphucks in this Thread,that Biqsqueeze will probably arise from the dead and add some more Imaginary "experience" to the fray,so as to really frost the cake.
As an aside IEH,I'm still diggin' on how your jaunts with the Scope Purse really aided the Victim tally.
My advice is, if the Butler Creeks work for you, keep on using them.
For me, the new production ones don't work. I've not had a problem with my older set, but the newer ones I've had don't hold up for me. This is a very common issue that's been discussed on many sites, including Opticstalk.com, Snipershide.com, etc. So for the ones of us who keep breaking them, we obviously need to find an alternative. Just because you haven't broken yours doesn't mean that we are having the same luck. No need to come in here, post after post, bashing people who would like an alternative.
If the Butler Creeks work for you, that's great.
Much enjoying that you think an elastic powered open ended sack atop your scope,is going to do anything but hang up on schit and concentrate moisture where you least want it?!!? Schit don't get much funnier than that! It was a very nice touch that you prefaced that brainfart with the muse that you were going to "Field Test" the ruse by a "hard" Hunt and then came full circle to reiterate that the piece of [bleep] schit filled up with water,as your "revelation". The only way to top them "findings",would be to hang a pic of what that "Hard Hunt" garnered in regards to punched tags and touch a wee bit on the AO and it's particulars. Laffin' in advance!
Let me guess, you work for Bushnell? That's the only explanation I can think of as to why you'd be so closed minded on any other choices, and think that everyone has to be using the BC caps.
As for the Scope Shield, it's a whole lot better than the Butler Creeks, that broke apart long before I ever had a chance to take them out in the rain storm we had. That said, had the Butler Creeks held together for me like the old sets I have, I'd think they were a great product, but every set of newerish ones I've had have broken in very short order. They do me no good when they are broken, but I do love the idea behind them, and if they held up I'd think they were great.
The Scope Shield Alaska may not be the best product that ever gets produced, or it may end up being, who knows. However, I can say at this moment it's the best I've used that's currently being produced. I've not used everything out there, so I can only comment on what I have used. If you or anyone else has a product that performs better, send me one. I'd be glad to try it out too. If it works better, I'd be glad to keep on using it, and recommend it to anyone that asks me. So far, I've not found anything that works better, and I've had several sets of BC caps, and they certainly don't work better when they are broken. Not to mention, they don't keep any part of the scope dry in any way shape or form either.
I'm the least closed mind person I know and shoot more part/pieces than anyone I've met,seen or heard of and am never not looking for the better way. I stated plainly,that I've used everything mentioned thus far in the thread and a host of others that haven't been. That being a fact,coupled with more than a wee bit of R&D to extrapolate same with,do allow me the luxury of not being forced to guess,which is of course how I roll. Conversely,I do enjoy the pics of your schit rifle,schit mounts,schit glass and nary a scratch on any of it,coupled with a pic of a Scope Purse atop and empty tags as your version of a "Field Test". All of that to denote that the piece of [bleep] schit is a joke in the weather,which is more than evident at a cursory glance. Curiously enough,your Imaginary "Hard Hunt" is Secret Squirrel Classified,because even as dumb as you are,you know it'd be hilarious to bill your Flat Landing Forays as anything they ain't. Groovin' that you threw a little Mall Ninja schit in there too. Can hardly wait until you expound upon your "findings",after having launched 10 whole rounds through that POS.
Let's extrapolate a smidge. Cheer up,I welded the bases on.
Weather do curious things,when goods leave the couch. Try getting out some time,you'll be amazed at whatcha learn and that not all goods is equal nor [bleep] close.
Enjoying too,that you are a Pan Handler looking for gratis goods,so you can put your "convincing" seal of approval on same and score some schit for free. You are a Do-Nothing Day Dreaming Turd Polisher,talking out your ass,as a best case scenario...though it's fitting that you are a victim of both your "intelligence" and "experience" and that both are literal life sentences.
Congratulations?
LG Texas Tea Bagger,
I know facts are more than a trifle unsettling for you and you are The Queen Of Whine. Here's some cheese for you. Congratulations too,on Spanish being your State language!
In fairness,your Legacy is consumate Douche-Baggery frosted copiously with playing Pretend with your Imagination and the never ending bitch session on how your Life is unfair. Go buy yourself a helmet today and put it on,then head right back to the couch where it's safe. I'll happily continue to feed your vicarious angst and take you places you could never get to and show you sights you'd never see,as my gracious nature is boundless and I'm happy to help those farrrrrrrrrrr less fortunate.
It's how I roll.
SamO,
For conversation,aligning BC's other than with their hinge atop both ocular and objective,is a recipe for concession. Firstly,on a right hand bolt,that keeps the flipper as far away as possible from the bolt and it's cycle path. Secondly,it precludes blocking acuity as per acquisition of a victim,because the greatest percentage of victim travel is going to be to port or starboard on the horizon. Thirdly,as the arm is shouldered,both hands are in a default position to actuate both caps in nano-seconds.
Just sayin'.
K-She,
Your insecurities are palpable and you've a great point,that a 3pt don't rate an Avatar...but beings you is a victim of your "intellect","experience","drive",determination" and "mastery" of the Outdoors,you sadly gotta do the best you can,with what little you got. Bless your heart.
I always enjoy your Estrogen fueled rants and eloquent commentary on how you are incapable of connecting dots and that it's always someone else's "fault". On the brightside,you is rather gifted in your first hand accountings of your Vagina Monologues and always give particulars the widest of births. Pun be intended,but someone will haveta 'splain it to you.
There's enough of you Do-Nothing Dumbphucks in this Thread,that Biqsqueeze will probably arise from the dead and add some more Imaginary "experience" to the fray,so as to really frost the cake.
As an aside IEH,I'm still diggin' on how your jaunts with the Scope Purse really aided the Victim tally.
Laffin'!
It's ironic (and I must add, [bleep] hilarious) that you're far too damaged by your disorder to even realize that by posting these long and drawn out rants that in fact, you're proving my point. (FYI-You also need some new material)
I posted simplistic facts,which escape your comprehension due to your copious lack of intellect and experience. Do enjoy that every one of your whines gets farther and farther from the crux and yet closer and closer to your insecurities.
The odds are well shy of slim,that you'll kill anything and for that simplistic reason the material is stagnant and again due solely to your inability to connect any dots. On the brightside however...your whining improves every year and you obliviously tote stupidity to places it's never been before and flaunt it brazenly.
Bless your heart!
JG Texas Tea Bagger,
Keep telling yourself that you's doing "something"...schit don't get any [bleep] funnier than that.
JB,
Alumina's leak like they ain't there and aren't viable for anything with weather.
Ackleymam,
You've got the 3pt Chronicles really sewn up and that topograhy/vegetation,must really put you to the "test". Laffin'! Really ring the bell now and say a little sumptin' about what you do for a living,that makes playing Prairie Fairy so very "difficult" for you?!!? I'm laughing in advance,because I just KNOW it's gonna be [bleep] GOOD!
Must be "satisfying" that you really getting "out there" and "after it",is damned near as "harrowing" as the end of my driveway?!!? Shot these a whole 5 minutes ago.
You even had Hutch laughing at you and he has a dry sense of humor.
My advice is, if the Butler Creeks work for you, keep on using them.
For me, the new production ones don't work. I've not had a problem with my older set, but the newer ones I've had don't hold up for me. This is a very common issue that's been discussed on many sites, including Opticstalk.com, Snipershide.com, etc. So for the ones of us who keep breaking them, we obviously need to find an alternative. Just because you haven't broken yours doesn't mean that we are having the same luck. No need to come in here, post after post, bashing people who would like an alternative.
If the Butler Creeks work for you, that's great.
Much enjoying that you think an elastic powered open ended sack atop your scope,is going to do anything but hang up on schit and concentrate moisture where you least want it?!!? Schit don't get much funnier than that! It was a very nice touch that you prefaced that brainfart with the muse that you were going to "Field Test" the ruse by a "hard" Hunt and then came full circle to reiterate that the piece of [bleep] schit filled up with water,as your "revelation". The only way to top them "findings",would be to hang a pic of what that "Hard Hunt" garnered in regards to punched tags and touch a wee bit on the AO and it's particulars. Laffin' in advance!
Let me guess, you work for Bushnell? That's the only explanation I can think of as to why you'd be so closed minded on any other choices, and think that everyone has to be using the BC caps.
As for the Scope Shield, it's a whole lot better than the Butler Creeks, that broke apart long before I ever had a chance to take them out in the rain storm we had. That said, had the Butler Creeks held together for me like the old sets I have, I'd think they were a great product, but every set of newerish ones I've had have broken in very short order. They do me no good when they are broken, but I do love the idea behind them, and if they held up I'd think they were great.
The Scope Shield Alaska may not be the best product that ever gets produced, or it may end up being, who knows. However, I can say at this moment it's the best I've used that's currently being produced. I've not used everything out there, so I can only comment on what I have used. If you or anyone else has a product that performs better, send me one. I'd be glad to try it out too. If it works better, I'd be glad to keep on using it, and recommend it to anyone that asks me. So far, I've not found anything that works better, and I've had several sets of BC caps, and they certainly don't work better when they are broken. Not to mention, they don't keep any part of the scope dry in any way shape or form either.
I'm the least closed mind person I know and shoot more part/pieces than anyone I've met,seen or heard of and am never not looking for the better way. I stated plainly,that I've used everything mentioned thus far in the thread and a host of others that haven't been. That being a fact,coupled with more than a wee bit of R&D to extrapolate same with,do allow me the luxury of not being forced to guess,which is of course how I roll. Conversely,I do enjoy the pics of your schit rifle,schit mounts,schit glass and nary a scratch on any of it,coupled with a pic of a Scope Purse atop and empty tags as your version of a "Field Test". All of that to denote that the piece of [bleep] schit is a joke in the weather,which is more than evident at a cursory glance. Curiously enough,your Imaginary "Hard Hunt" is Secret Squirrel Classified,because even as dumb as you are,you know it'd be hilarious to bill your Flat Landing Forays as anything they ain't. Groovin' that you threw a little Mall Ninja schit in there too. Can hardly wait until you expound upon your "findings",after having launched 10 whole rounds through that POS.
Let's extrapolate a smidge. Cheer up,I welded the bases on.
Weather do curious things,when goods leave the couch. Try getting out some time,you'll be amazed at whatcha learn and that not all goods is equal nor [bleep] close.
Enjoying too,that you are a Pan Handler looking for gratis goods,so you can put your "convincing" seal of approval on same and score some schit for free. You are a Do-Nothing Day Dreaming Turd Polisher,talking out your ass,as a best case scenario...though it's fitting that you are a victim of both your "intelligence" and "experience" and that both are literal life sentences.
Congratulations?
LG Texas Tea Bagger,
I know facts are more than a trifle unsettling for you and you are The Queen Of Whine. Here's some cheese for you. Congratulations too,on Spanish being your State language!
In fairness,your Legacy is consumate Douche-Baggery frosted copiously with playing Pretend with your Imagination and the never ending bitch session on how your Life is unfair. Go buy yourself a helmet today and put it on,then head right back to the couch where it's safe. I'll happily continue to feed your vicarious angst and take you places you could never get to and show you sights you'd never see,as my gracious nature is boundless and I'm happy to help those farrrrrrrrrrr less fortunate.
It's how I roll.
SamO,
For conversation,aligning BC's other than with their hinge atop both ocular and objective,is a recipe for concession. Firstly,on a right hand bolt,that keeps the flipper as far away as possible from the bolt and it's cycle path. Secondly,it precludes blocking acuity as per acquisition of a victim,because the greatest percentage of victim travel is going to be to port or starboard on the horizon. Thirdly,as the arm is shouldered,both hands are in a default position to actuate both caps in nano-seconds.
Just sayin'.
K-She,
Your insecurities are palpable and you've a great point,that a 3pt don't rate an Avatar...but beings you is a victim of your "intellect","experience","drive",determination" and "mastery" of the Outdoors,you sadly gotta do the best you can,with what little you got. Bless your heart.
I always enjoy your Estrogen fueled rants and eloquent commentary on how you are incapable of connecting dots and that it's always someone else's "fault". On the brightside,you is rather gifted in your first hand accountings of your Vagina Monologues and always give particulars the widest of births. Pun be intended,but someone will haveta 'splain it to you.
There's enough of you Do-Nothing Dumbphucks in this Thread,that Biqsqueeze will probably arise from the dead and add some more Imaginary "experience" to the fray,so as to really frost the cake.
As an aside IEH,I'm still diggin' on how your jaunts with the Scope Purse really aided the Victim tally.
Laffin'!
If you would quit flappin your gums and spend a little time doing some maintenance, your junk rifles wouldn't look so crappy.... A little EEzox or CorrosionX goes along way! "HINT"
There are some great photos indeed, even from the spectacularly disturbed "Boxer". It is noteworthy, and explicable, that Boxer's photos do not include other hunters, with the exception of some posted of the children, whose expressions are strikingly haunted and joyless.
The narcissist description leads Boxer's resume, but many of the photos are stunning.
There are some great photos indeed, even from the spectacularly disturbed "Boxer". It is noteworthy, and explicable, that Boxer's photos do not include other hunters, with the exception of some posted of the children, whose expressions are strikingly haunted and joyless.
The narcissist description leads Boxer's resume, but many of the photos are stunning.
BC caps break. In the last dozen yrs I've broken 4. They are cheap and unfortunately I carry an extra set in my pack. But, they simply work fantastic. I do have a set of Leupolds Alumia Flips on a Leupold 6x42 that have performed well over the last 3 seasons under snowy conditions. I tend to believe Boxer and his rain infested results with Alumia Flips, and Scopesheild's sock style cover. I hunt Elk in the sideways rain and fog in Coastal Washington mountain ranges where 75 plus inches fall a year and BC caps are a must. I also hunt in North Idaho and NW Montana and have yet had Alumia Flips fail in Rain or snow.
Biggest problem with neopreme type scope socks is that in the heat of battle the interior will collect moisture which is near impossible to whipe dry. BC caps can easily be wiped moisture free.
I wish the BC caps were tougher. Ultimately there just isn't another option for how I hunt.
Can't imangine a world in which I puzzy footed through seasons where I'd never break a BC cap. That just simply put ain't never gonna [bleep] happen.
BC caps break. In the last dozen yrs I've broken 4. They are cheap and unfortunately I carry an extra set in my pack. But, they simply work fantastic. I do have a set of Leupolds Alumia Flips on a Leupold 6x42 that have performed well over the last 3 seasons under snowy conditions. I tend to believe Boxer and his rain infested results with Alumia Flips, and Scopesheild's sock style cover. I hunt Elk in the sideways rain and fog in Coastal Washington mountain ranges where 75 plus inches fall a year and BC caps are a must. I also hunt in North Idaho and NW Montana and have yet had Alumia Flips fail in Rain or snow.
We get about 9 inches of rain fall a year. I never have had the Alumina fail in the light rain or dry snow here in Wyoming. None of them are really waterproof and I fight dust way more than serious rain.
Because I carry a rifle in a saddle scabbard the lower profile of the Alumina is an advantage.
The biggest advantage from where I sit is the fold flat feature.
For conversation,aligning BC's other than with their hinge atop both ocular and objective,is a recipe for concession. Firstly,on a right hand bolt,that keeps the flipper as far away as possible from the bolt and it's cycle path. Secondly,it precludes blocking acuity as per acquisition of a victim,because the greatest percentage of victim travel is going to be to port or starboard on the horizon. Thirdly,as the arm is shouldered,both hands are in a default position to actuate both caps in nano-seconds.
Just sayin'.
Stick, I gave it a quarter turn counter clockwise because the cover would come back(light 300WSM) and hit the bill on my ballcap. Very annoying so given the Suko's low bolt throw I 'fixed' the issue. Not bitching about the BC's, in fact I'm impressed that is still hangin' on!
Sugar,I'll ask again,just what is it you do for a living that has you conditioned to think waltzing in ankle tall grass is "hard"? 'Course that'll horn MagnumDouche and K-She all the [bleep] up.
IEH,
Still groovin' on "all" your pics,you really put the what-is to Critters! Laffin'!
Also enjoying your red ass that I'm a World Class Photographer,but it's old "news". Adds a little sumptin' that a sandbagging poker face shakes your Do-Nothing ass up,though both traits is held in the highest of esteem in these parts and is the longest running of jokes...save you Do-Nothing gals thinkin' you've a clue. Pardon my being more than a whole bunch good,at more than a whole buncha things...it's how I roll.
Wry grins is legal,if cast in the appropriate direction,which is away from the camera.
But the best Style Points always go to the nonchalant approach,because I've long been acclimated to bestowing splendor.
But it's tough to top the humor of a Snake Oil Salesman talking out his ass and blowing smoke too and you've really got it going on!
Congratulations?!!?
badczech,
I reckon the Slovak moniker,is a none too subtle nom de plume for your penchant to allow your mouth to take you places,your ass can't get you outta. Fitting,though none too sly.
Wow! 75 whole inches in a year?!!? That's funny,add 100 to it and check back with me. Please critique the following video and feel free to cite the rigors you'd deem requisite to fail BC's,as per your "hardcore" experience. Laffin'!
NARCISSISTIC PERSONALITY DISORDER Symptoms of this disorder include, but are not limited to:
Reacts to criticism with anger, shame, or humiliation May take advantage of others to reach his or her own goal Tends to exaggerate their own importance, achievements, and talents Imagines unrealistic fantasies of success, beauty, power, intelligence, or romance Requires constant attention and positive reinforcement from others Easily becomes jealous Lacks empathy and disregards the feelings of others Obsessed with oneself Mainly pursues selfish goals Trouble keeping healthy relationships Is easily hurt and rejected Sets unreal goals Wants "the best" of everything Appears as tough-minded or unemotional
The symptoms of Narcissistic personality disorder can be similar to the traits of individuals with strong self-esteem and confidence, differentiation occurs when the underlying psychological structures of these traits are considered pathological. Narcissists have such an elevated sense of self-worth that they value themselves as inherently better than others. Yet, they have a fragile self-esteem and cannot handle criticism, and will often try to compensate for this inner fragility by belittling or disparaging others in an attempt to validate their own self-worth. It is this sadistic tendency that is characteristic of narcissism as opposed to other psychological conditions affecting level of self-worth
The only thing that was missing from this definition was Larry's picture...
With your lack of education and intelligence I realize it was unfair of me to have you read all of the definition. My apologies.
Pay attention to the areas in red, and especially the larger font.
...your penchant to allow your mouth to take you places,your ass can't get you outta. Fitting,though none too sly.
After reading many of your posts, it seems the above words may also have much meaning to yourself, coming from an outsider looking in.
Ask yourself this one question before you lay to rest this evening. Why?
Why do you chastise others for things you may do differently? Why is your way so much better than many others on this forum? Why if we are so unintelligent, do you waste your time with such nonsense? Why do you have to prove to yourself you are better at things than us here? Why does what we think matter at all?
Well, I already know in your response you will be [bleep]' laffin' as you so commonly put. I understand that no matter what I type, I will be wrong and you will be right. I hope you find comfort in that.
However, I will share with you what I see when I read your posts.
I see a man that is living a great life. One who knows what it is to truly "live" in nature and to appreciate what each day brings. I see a man whose children are following in his footsteps and seem happy with the same lifestyle. I see a person who seems blessed.
So, why are you so unhappy? Why are you so insecure? What causes you to constantly put yourself on a pedestal amongst Internet peers you likely have never met?
You seem like the type that wouldn't care about what we think, but yet you do. Actually, you REALLY do. Otherwise, you wouldn't post your all to common degrading responses to people you should be trying to be-friend.
We aren't your enemy.
Look around you. Take a deep breath. Look at your life.
...your penchant to allow your mouth to take you places,your ass can't get you outta. Fitting,though none too sly.
After reading many of your posts, it seems the above words may also have much meaning to yourself, coming from an outsider looking in.
Ask yourself this one question before you lay to rest this evening. Why?
Why do you chastise others for things you may do differently? Why is your way so much better than many others on this forum? Why if we are so unintelligent, do you waste your time with such nonsense? Why do you have to prove to yourself you are better at things than us here? Why does what we think matter at all?
Well, I already know in your response you will be [bleep]' laffin' as you so commonly put. I understand that no matter what I type, I will be wrong and you will be right. I hope you find comfort in that.
However, I will share with you what I see when I read your posts.
I see a man that is living a great life. One who knows what it is to truly "live" in nature and to appreciate what each day brings. I see a man whose children are following in his footsteps and seem happy with the same lifestyle. I see a person who seems blessed.
So, why are you so unhappy? Why are you so insecure? What causes you to constantly put yourself on a pedestal amongst Internet peers you likely have never met?
You seem like the type that wouldn't care about what we think, but yet you do. Actually, you REALLY do. Otherwise, you wouldn't post your all to common degrading responses to people you should be trying to be-friend.
We aren't your enemy.
Look around you. Take a deep breath. Look at your life.
Your worst enemy is yourself.
Big plus-one SteelCity.
I ran Alumina's in the rain; they didnt leak on me either. And the fold-flat part doesn't suck one bit, nor does the low (no?) profile, when used on a setup with potential bolt-clearance issues.
I default to the BC's though usually because I'm not running many Leup scopes right now.
I enjoy it when you hold your breath and stomp your feet...to put emphasis on all your insecurities. Your pics are really "helping" too. Laffin'!
Try this toots: pry your [bleep] from the kouch and step outdoors and do a little sumptin',it'll help your blood pressure and if you took notes and apply same,it'll MUCH improve your Game. Pun be intended.
I know you've a long established penchant to set on the sidelines and watch others connect dots,while you pout in angst and live vicariously...fact is,not many is "better" at it. Just sayin' I enjoy your conviction,no matter how misguided and how animated you become. Groovin' on how stupidity isn't an act for you and how you thrive on reiterating same.
In fairness,you're probably a fair to middlin' fluffer.
StillSchittyArcher,
Obviously,comprehension ain't your gig,but you're a spicy gal. You'd do well to take notes and apply same,though I enjoy that you are to dense to savvy that,which is part of your spice.
Rest assured,that there's gents far brighter than you connecting dots and applying same,less concession. I enjoy how that salient fact fully escapes you,though in fairness,there is no reason for you to point out the glaring lapses you "enjoy". Feel free to cite where you Imagine my being mistaken and I'll happily rub your nose in your own stupidity. I'll use leetle words,should it help. Some things are subjective,but a Scope Purse assuredly isn't amongst those ranks.
Tickled that you contrive unhappiness on my end,because you clueless dolts are the Christmas that never ends. Look objectively at the cast of characters whining and it well beyond apparent,that a more pathetic band of Do-Nothing Dumbphucks could not be assembled(save the lapse of Bigsqueeze becoming un-dead and joining the fray). Entertaining and then some,that your Estrogen Levels compel you to attempt cajoling the Do-Nothing Gang into actually doing something Outdoors,to salve the realities of their perpetual dumbphucktitude. It's like a Jerry Lewis Telethon,as all the key "players" whine,weasel,wriggle and weep en masse,then try to blame others for their sucktitude. Very curious to me,for you to cast a train of thought to embrace their collective stupidity and applaud their "knowledge","results" or "experience" as anything other than the grandiose comedy it most certainly is.
I speak matter of factly,because facts matter and the Do-Nothing Gang finds it unsettling,which assuredly cracks me the [bleep] up. Rest assured I've no intent to steal their bandwidth,as it's a never ending Science Experiment of sorts,to watch them bump their heads,stub their toes and lick windows...under the auspice of their knowing what in the [bleep] they are talking about. It's as good as humor gets!
I'm more than a whole bunch comfy in my skin and have known for decades that there's damn few folks who have it as good as me. I savvy that I've lived a slice of Life that very few have and I've great appreciations for those fortunes,whether they were "luck" or due to keen foresight on my part. I'm as openminded as they come,but do not suffer fools or Snake Oil Salesmen and I'll not [bleep] goods I'm not steeped in. Few is more fair than I and I've zero qualm denoting goods how they are. Want the straight scoop,ask the question and I'll hitcha with the skinny,if I've BT/DT.
Few folks have the time,interest,means and desire to shake goods out,but I've a curious nature and prefer a hands on approach,so my Mail Man stays rather busy...to the chagrin of many. I'm unbiased,gun an openmind and ain't never not looking for a better way. When schit is schit,I'm at ease in branding it same. If it rocks,I'm just as at ease there. To couple those constants,I also have the luxury of being afforded the topography,vegetation and weather to test things like very few others,besides the physical gifts to wring schit out and the analytical mind to savvy the cause/effect of same. Cracks me up,that the Do-Nothing Gang cain't like that either!
My worst enemy is time,which is why I work/play hard and try to get a few day's worth of goody outta every day. I'm diggin' the odds,in regards to that curve.
Enjoyed the fireside chat,order yourself a Scope Purse and be a trendsetter.
Laffin'!
JeffO,
You're simply the sorriest of the sorry [bleep],which do put you in Rare Air. Hoping you can glean at least a little of how incredible that "accomplishment" really is.
Just when I think you've done/said the most [bleep] stupid [bleep] thing POSSIBLE,you easily top it and always accidentally.
You go girl!
JG Texas Tea Bagger,
I'll keep flippin you pics,so you can see what the Outdoors look like.
BC caps break. In the last dozen yrs I've broken 4. They are cheap and unfortunately I carry an extra set in my pack. But, they simply work fantastic. I do have a set of Leupolds Alumia Flips on a Leupold 6x42 that have performed well over the last 3 seasons under snowy conditions. I tend to believe Boxer and his rain infested results with Alumia Flips, and Scopesheild's sock style cover. I hunt Elk in the sideways rain and fog in Coastal Washington mountain ranges where 75 plus inches fall a year and BC caps are a must. I also hunt in North Idaho and NW Montana and have yet had Alumia Flips fail in Rain or snow.
We get about 9 inches of rain fall a year. I never have had the Alumina fail in the light rain or dry snow here in Wyoming. None of them are really waterproof and I fight dust way more than serious rain.
Because I carry a rifle in a saddle scabbard the lower profile of the Alumina is an advantage.
The biggest advantage from where I sit is the fold flat feature.
Nice mules... work on the saddles but nice mules...
BC caps break. In the last dozen yrs I've broken 4. They are cheap and unfortunately I carry an extra set in my pack. But, they simply work fantastic. I do have a set of Leupolds Alumia Flips on a Leupold 6x42 that have performed well over the last 3 seasons under snowy conditions. I tend to believe Boxer and his rain infested results with Alumia Flips, and Scopesheild's sock style cover. I hunt Elk in the sideways rain and fog in Coastal Washington mountain ranges where 75 plus inches fall a year and BC caps are a must. I also hunt in North Idaho and NW Montana and have yet had Alumia Flips fail in Rain or snow.
We get about 9 inches of rain fall a year. I never have had the Alumina fail in the light rain or dry snow here in Wyoming. None of them are really waterproof and I fight dust way more than serious rain.
Because I carry a rifle in a saddle scabbard the lower profile of the Alumina is an advantage.
The biggest advantage from where I sit is the fold flat feature.
Nice mules... work on the saddles but nice mules...
Ha, I assume you mean the pack saddles with the mesh panniers.
I am a constant cause of embarrassment to my dad and anyone who has to travel down the trail with me.
I do manage to get loads from here to there without needing to stop and shift loads or repack. That�s the whole bull on Mariah there and while the trip out was pretty level and only 4 miles she never needed a shift or repack.
It ain�t pretty but I have lost all interest in diamonds and can barely stomach a well done box hitch.
Sugar,I'll ask again,just what is it you do for a living that has you conditioned to think waltzing in ankle tall grass is "hard"? 'Course that'll horn MagnumDouche and K-She all the [bleep] up.
IEH,
Still groovin' on "all" your pics,you really put the what-is to Critters! Laffin'!
Also enjoying your red ass that I'm a World Class Photographer,but it's old "news". Adds a little sumptin' that a sandbagging poker face shakes your Do-Nothing ass up,though both traits is held in the highest of esteem in these parts and is the longest running of jokes...save you Do-Nothing gals thinkin' you've a clue. Pardon my being more than a whole bunch good,at more than a whole buncha things...it's how I roll.
Wry grins is legal,if cast in the appropriate direction,which is away from the camera.
But the best Style Points always go to the nonchalant approach,because I've long been acclimated to bestowing splendor.
But it's tough to top the humor of a Snake Oil Salesman talking out his ass and blowing smoke too and you've really got it going on!
Congratulations?!!?
badczech,
I reckon the Slovak moniker,is a none too subtle nom de plume for your penchant to allow your mouth to take you places,your ass can't get you outta. Fitting,though none too sly.
Wow! 75 whole inches in a year?!!? That's funny,add 100 to it and check back with me. Please critique the following video and feel free to cite the rigors you'd deem requisite to fail BC's,as per your "hardcore" experience. Laffin'!
Great pics Burns, you know what you're doing. I have zero pack string knowledge, just lucky to saddle an old cow pony....grin
First morning I'd ever rode this [bleep] out in the Breaks. Hammerhead, zero buck but still likes to act an idiot. Plays out quick, might make a good kids horse.
My old man the next day wondering WTF is this chit 3 1/2 miles from the pickup? Out gathering cows... The buckskin noticed the tail(sticking out the side of his head) about halfway down the hill and boogied off for a minute. Ran back to the other horses once it figured out the tail wasn't gonna kill it, luckily the deer didn't go flying.
Down to the bottom.
Originally Posted by Boxer
I'm more than a whole bunch comfy in my skin and have known for decades that there's damn few folks who have it as good as me. I savvy that I've lived a slice of Life that very few have and I've great appreciations for those fortunes,whether they were "luck" or due to keen foresight on my part. I'm as openminded as they come,but do not suffer fools or Snake Oil Salesmen and I'll not [bleep] goods I'm not steeped in. Few is more fair than I and I've zero qualm denoting goods how they are. Want the straight scoop,ask the question and I'll hitcha with the skinny,if I've BT/DT.
Stick, you are not the only one who thinks they have life by the tail. Lots of us do(maybe).
Great pics Burns, you know what you're doing. I have zero pack string knowledge, just lucky to saddle an old cow pony....grin
First morning I'd ever rode this [bleep] out in the Breaks. Hammerhead, zero buck but still likes to act an idiot. Plays out quick, might make a good kids horse.
My old man the next day wondering WTF is this chit 3 1/2 miles from the pickup? Out gathering cows... The buckskin noticed the tail(sticking out the side of his head) about halfway down the hill and boogied off for a minute. Ran back to the other horses once it figured out the tail wasn't gonna kill it, luckily the deer didn't go flying.
Down to the bottom.
Originally Posted by Boxer
I'm more than a whole bunch comfy in my skin and have known for decades that there's damn few folks who have it as good as me. I savvy that I've lived a slice of Life that very few have and I've great appreciations for those fortunes,whether they were "luck" or due to keen foresight on my part. I'm as openminded as they come,but do not suffer fools or Snake Oil Salesmen and I'll not [bleep] goods I'm not steeped in. Few is more fair than I and I've zero qualm denoting goods how they are. Want the straight scoop,ask the question and I'll hitcha with the skinny,if I've BT/DT.
Stick, you are not the only one who thinks they have life by the tail. Lots of us do(maybe).
Lots of fun working with mules and horses. They can bust you up pretty bad but when you are all on the same page it sure is fun.
Here is Taco, fresh from the flatlands, learning that silly schit on his back is to be tolerated. Here he is 2 years later. Packing a bit more muscle down the leg after a �few� climbs and looking at the "silly schit" he had to haul up the hill. In keeping with the scope cover theme here is Jose with BC scope covers, a nice muley and Strider there in the background. No covers might have been just fine on this day. Here is Bill and Phil with a nice ram and Taco, Strider, Belle and Mariah waiting to pack us all home. The Alumina covers worked perfectly on another dry Wyoming hunt.
BC caps break. In the last dozen yrs I've broken 4. They are cheap and unfortunately I carry an extra set in my pack. But, they simply work fantastic. I do have a set of Leupolds Alumia Flips on a Leupold 6x42 that have performed well over the last 3 seasons under snowy conditions. I tend to believe Boxer and his rain infested results with Alumia Flips, and Scopesheild's sock style cover. I hunt Elk in the sideways rain and fog in Coastal Washington mountain ranges where 75 plus inches fall a year and BC caps are a must. I also hunt in North Idaho and NW Montana and have yet had Alumia Flips fail in Rain or snow.
We get about 9 inches of rain fall a year. I never have had the Alumina fail in the light rain or dry snow here in Wyoming. None of them are really waterproof and I fight dust way more than serious rain.
Because I carry a rifle in a saddle scabbard the lower profile of the Alumina is an advantage.
The biggest advantage from where I sit is the fold flat feature.
Nice mules... work on the saddles but nice mules...
Ha, I assume you mean the pack saddles with the mesh panniers.
I am a constant cause of embarrassment to my dad and anyone who has to travel down the trail with me.
I do manage to get loads from here to there without needing to stop and shift loads or repack. That�s the whole bull on Mariah there and while the trip out was pretty level and only 4 miles she never needed a shift or repack.
It ain�t pretty but I have lost all interest in diamonds and can barely stomach a well done box hitch.
yeah...I'm kinda like your father... I cringe a bit looking at the "easy way out". I'm not a fan of the diamond or the double diamond.. (good song by Ian Tyson though ) The box is a favorite of mine. However, I've migrated to a modified sierra box hitch for just about everything. Which now has taken the mostest favorite hitch ...ever... easy to use and teach.
I do like your mules though.. tough to beat a good string of riding and packing mules... looks like (hard to see) you need to have someone show you how to "bell" the tails though... Kinda lets people know you can ride or pack em...
I used to travel a bit further than a couple miles though...
Here is Taco, fresh from the flatlands, learning that silly schit on his back is to be tolerated. Here he is 2 years later. Packing a bit more muscle down the leg after a �few� climbs and looking at the "silly schit" he had to haul up the hill.
Nice to see someone taking the time to desensitize the equine.
Looks like you may have or had a good teacher!
I've seen and heard of a few good wrecks that needed the whirly bird to help the owners out. Much could have been avoided if the "training" for both would have been there.
I knew before I tripped the shutter,that I was mining GOLD. 1-7.7" Krieger 22-250AI,3.5-10X 40mm,McMillan Classic and BC's.(grin)
SamO,
I'm glad that riding Donkeys in a field,horns you up...it wouldn't come close to doing it for me. Now shooting Donkeys and Horses?!!? You's speakin' my language there!
Never have lived in a place that either was viable,except for Dog Food or Bear Bait. In fairness however,I do gotta fight my way through ankle tall grass to get to my crummy and as of yet,there's nothing untoward to cite in the fray.
So you gals got me on the ropes with trying to Prairie Fairy and I admit,it's beyond me and for a multitude of unflatterin' reasons(understatement)...I roll more like a Brush Ape and dat's my game.
Ackleymam,
Do tell,as I remain curious as to what you do for a living,that makes walking in ankle tall grass seem difficult for you? It can't be that bad,can it?
Laffin'.
WyoWhimper,
No Pony Parade is complete without you! Perhaps you'd consider shooting Bigsqueeze a PM and wake her from the dead,so this Thread will go down in the annals of History as a right proper Paper Hat Brigade Swan Song? Obliged.
Perspective is always interesting,despite it flying over pointy heads...which is of course more than half the fun! Plum amazin' too,how a good pair of corks will never let a good man down and on the really bright side,he can bring lotsa pictures to the Prairie Fairies to show 'em what transpires,where they cain't go.
Stick, I was more or less commenting on the fact that I feel lucky to be able to go out with my dad and do stuff like that.
I'm sure cutting down trees is(was) more fulfilling(for you) and that's fine. It's also fine that you haven't done it in years and currently work in an oil patch, nothing wrong with that. I'm sure you make good money and the excitment keeps you coming back for more.
And I'll be the first to admit, working on a 'farm' that your father and grandfather literally put together with their bare hands isn't very rewarding at all. Cattle market is in the tank and our old combine broke down before we got any of the crop in the bin. Pretty pathetic way to make a living let alone spend a day.
I knew before I tripped the shutter,that I was mining GOLD. 1-7.7" Krieger 22-250AI,3.5-10X 40mm,McMillan Classic and BC's.(grin)
SamO,
I'm glad that riding Donkeys in a field,horns you up...it wouldn't come close to doing it for me. Now shooting Donkeys and Horses?!!? You's speakin' my language there!
Never have lived in a place that either was viable,except for Dog Food or Bear Bait. In fairness however,I do gotta fight my way through ankle tall grass to get to my crummy and as of yet,there's nothing untoward to cite in the fray.
So you gals got me on the ropes with trying to Prairie Fairy and I admit,it's beyond me and for a multitude of unflatterin' reasons(understatement)...I roll more like a Brush Ape and dat's my game.
Ackleymam,
Do tell,as I remain curious as to what you do for a living,that makes walking in ankle tall grass seem difficult for you? It can't be that bad,can it?
Laffin'.
WyoWhimper,
No Pony Parade is complete without you! Perhaps you'd consider shooting Bigsqueeze a PM and wake her from the dead,so this Thread will go down in the annals of History as a right proper Paper Hat Brigade Swan Song? Obliged.
Perspective is always interesting,despite it flying over pointy heads...which is of course more than half the fun! Plum amazin' too,how a good pair of corks will never let a good man down and on the really bright side,he can bring lotsa pictures to the Prairie Fairies to show 'em what transpires,where they cain't go.
Stick, I was more or less commenting on the fact that I feel lucky to be able to go out with my dad and do stuff like that.
I'm sure cutting down trees is(was) more fulfilling(for you) and that's fine. It's also fine that you haven't done it in years and currently work in an oil patch, nothing wrong with that. I'm sure you make good money and the excitment keeps you coming back for more.
And I'll be the first to admit, working on a 'farm' that your father and grandfather literally put together with their bare hands isn't very rewarding at all. Cattle market is in the tank and our old combine broke down before we got any of the crop in the bin. Pretty pathetic way to make a living let alone spend a day.
SamO,
I groove on how you wish to go JeffO and troll for heartstring,as a feeble foible! Pardon my being raised on a "farm" as you call it,my hands having seen dirt at an early age and my fondest memories being pickles jarred from the garden,steaks from the field and fish from the creek...it was "rough". Great Grandpa homesteaded and the Tradition continues to this day.
Please don't flatter yourself,that I'd EVER construe that Cutting was something you could do. The pics were reaffirmation of topography and vegetation and I whole heartedly apologize,if you Imagined yourself as being a viable candidate to perform likewise! I'd not care to burst your bubble that I've single handedly sent well over 100,000,000 board feet to Market and am a touch beyond "comfy" in them particulars. Humored mightily here,that you could hang. Laffin'!
That being said,vocation don't change my location,despite your consternation of the situation,which only fuels your frustration. Funny how yesterday's realizations,fuel your Imaginations. Bless your heart!
Where we at...did we do this one yet? I cain't keep track of the whines. Laffin'!
You should consider contacting Butler Creek in an effort to have them prepare a marketing campaign based on your success using their scope covers. I'm envisioning you carrying a pink rifle standing atop a mountain, or in a stream bed, pitching a glowing review of BC products. You'll look confidently into the camera and say something like "while the rest of you [bleep] and prairie fairies are sitting on the couch I'm out hunting and fishing the most aggressive terrain in the world and beating the [bleep] out of these BC covers, and they just won't break." Then you can take your pink rifle and repeatedly slam the ends of the scope (which of course has BC covers on it) against a nearby tree, or throw the rifle as far as you can into the streambed. The camera then focuses on the scope covers which of course will be in pristine condition and fully functional. This would be a win-win for you and BC. Think about it bud, could make you a ton of money.
Perspective is always interesting,despite it flying over pointy heads...which is of course more than half the fun! Plum amazin' too,how a good pair of corks will never let a good man down and on the really bright side,he can bring lotsa pictures to the Prairie Fairies to show 'em what transpires,where they cain't go.
Lil Fish,
Perspective is always interesting and I could not help but notice your pictures of alpine country are from the perspective of someone looking up at a mountain.
I find it more interesting to reverse that perspective and show the view from above looking down.
A few example but you will have to forgive the donkeys.
As a side note I would say your picture of a picture of a tent seems out of place.
he may not have heard you see i bet he is hard of hearing cause he hears "man that guy has to be bigstick" but they really said "man that guy IS a big dick"
Click the "Ignore User" button in the middle of the page.
That is the best we can do instead of feeding his ego with our responses.
Maybe this will work until he is banned for personal attacks, which the mods should have done LONG ago in my opinion.
Ignore 'stick?..... And miss out on pearls like this?
Originally Posted by Boxer
vocation don't change my location,despite your consternation of the situation,which only fuels your frustration. Funny how yesterday's realizations,fuel your Imaginations.
' 'tions'(shuns),puns and prose, pepsi out the nose.
Those with the biggest wedgies, are always calling for this kinda stuff. Dang man, if your panties are that wadded....
And floating around in a boat with your Elton John montucky and shooting game on the beach is tough......keep telling yourself that's tough hunting, It'll sink in!
Click the "Ignore User" button in the middle of the page.
That is the best we can do instead of feeding his ego with our responses.
Maybe this will work until he is banned for personal attacks, which the mods should have done LONG ago in my opinion.
Ignore 'stick?..... And miss out on pearls like this?
Originally Posted by Boxer
vocation don't change my location,despite your consternation of the situation,which only fuels your frustration. Funny how yesterday's realizations,fuel your Imaginations.
' 'tions'(shuns),puns and prose, pepsi out the nose.
Those with the biggest wedgies, are always calling for this kinda stuff. Dang man, if your panties are that wadded....
Yep.. LiL Fish = Don Rickles...
Hint!!
Love all the photo's that the rest of the do-nothing gang are posting also.. Neat!
Another good one from another thread that had me "rolling"..
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by Boxer
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
So, for the AI proponents, have you ever made a shot with the .223 AI that could not have been made with the good ol standard .223 Rem?
I routinely have a knack for making shots that you couldn't do with your best dose of Imagination...it's how I roll.
Well we all know that.
I was just asking if you, with your sheer awesomeness, had ever made a shot with your trusty .223 AI that you, again with your sheer awesomeness, could not have done with a standard chamber.
I was in no way comparing my meager shooting with your superlative skills honed through years of rigorous practice and a heaping dose of pure natural skill.
Oh by the way I think that little shoot is going to happen again this spring in Montana. You ought to wander on down south and give a little demo of �How You Roll�.
Perspective is always interesting and I could not help but notice your pictures of alpine country are from the perspective of someone looking up at a mountain.
I find it more interesting to reverse that perspective and show the view from above looking down.
A few example but you will have to forgive the donkeys.
As a side note I would say your picture of a picture of a tent seems out of place.
Click the "Ignore User" button in the middle of the page.
That is the best we can do instead of feeding his ego with our responses.
Maybe this will work until he is banned for personal attacks, which the mods should have done LONG ago in my opinion.
Ignore 'stick?..... And miss out on pearls like this?
Originally Posted by Boxer
vocation don't change my location,despite your consternation of the situation,which only fuels your frustration. Funny how yesterday's realizations,fuel your Imaginations.
' 'tions'(shuns),puns and prose, pepsi out the nose.
Those with the biggest wedgies, are always calling for this kinda stuff. Dang man, if your panties are that wadded....
Agree'd 100% I'll admit it took me a while get past the lil mans ways. Had to bookmark an online Webster to my favorites just to break the codes.. I look forward to bunched panties anymore as none can capture a moment like Boxer... [bleep] he's invented his own damn language and spelling. TTF
Click the "Ignore User" button in the middle of the page.
That is the best we can do instead of feeding his ego with our responses.
Maybe this will work until he is banned for personal attacks, which the mods should have done LONG ago in my opinion.
Ignore 'stick?..... And miss out on pearls like this?
Originally Posted by Boxer
vocation don't change my location,despite your consternation of the situation,which only fuels your frustration. Funny how yesterday's realizations,fuel your Imaginations.
' 'tions'(shuns),puns and prose, pepsi out the nose.
Those with the biggest wedgies, are always calling for this kinda stuff. Dang man, if your panties are that wadded....
Yep.. LiL Fish = Don Rickles...
Hint!!
Love all the photo's that the rest of the do-nothing gang are posting also.. Neat!
+1 JB and Sam have posted some awesome pics and alot of it has to do with the "presentation".........Lil fish is going to have to work a little harder or he'll never make it!
What is interesting is we have a guy who has spent most of his life in Alaska bragging and posting pics of the 100,000,000 board feet of lumber he has cut down and yet he can't hang one pic of brown bear, moose goat, sheep or elk he has killed..... but I'm pretty sure I know the reason!
I've heard lotsa schit and the whining from the Do-Nothing Crowd is perpetual background noise,none of which skews Reality and much to their chagrin.
Happiness is a high-pitched whine and freshly fallen tears,coupled with stomping little feet...you know the drill,you do it often.
Bless your heart.
Techsan,
Curiously enough,good schit sells itself and is yet another of the many of Life's constants. As an aside,I've always made money and money has never made me.
Coming full circle,I've beat more than a few things in the head with a good rifle and I've long been a proponent of skookum stocks,none of that "news" being new.
Cheer up,Seal Team Six drives BC's.
StillSchittyArcher,
Humored muchly,that you cain't stand on your own two itty-bitty feet and kudos for the perfect whine. All of your practice through the years,has really paid off!
Congratulations?
Nrut,
Your vicarious angst is palpable and rest assured I'll more than deliver the goods. Stay tuned,take notes and apply same...so as to reap the veritable cornucopia of Outdoors splendor that you KNOW is there,but cain't ever find.
You go girl! Chin up,chest out and keep telling yourself that you're doing "something"! I especially have an appreciation for your "ballistics" "knowledge". Too [bleep] funny!
JB,
As per always,I enjoy your version of "savvy",especially after having replied in full to garner the splendor of the enlarged imagery. Only someone who "knows" as much as you,could get their lips flappin' in such a manner,as to be oblivious to the Critters in the frame,which was of course more than halfa the point and a "dirty trick" both.
The roadside campsite is "quaint".
Always enjoy your humor,especially being it's never on purpose!
'holton,
My ears ain't the best,nor close. Too many burned out barrels and too many millions of board feet of Timber's throats cut.
I've seen me nekked and you must run with someone who's been fortunate enough to gawk the goods too. Your fascination is well founded.
huntsman',
It's a perpetual shame,that all the good stuff sails over pointy heads.
So I's gotta use leetle words and string them along patiently.
SamO,
I get it that you gotta revel in the sanctity of being a Pom-Pom toting Fan and that your aspirations never have aligned with your realizations. Groovin' on your inability to savvy a timeline,along with the heartfelt angst and jealous drool accompanying your Dreams of same. You'll always be able to ride a Donkey across the lawn,as a means of coming "close". Laffin!
Points awarded for your illuminating the wishes,while always a wallflower stuck doing the dishes. Mebbe you believe in reincarnation and you're holding your breath on a second pitch?!!?
Laffin'!
Ackleymam,
Lemme swing a 5lb hammer for you. I kept it lefthanded,so as to not bruise your "pride" needlessly. Laffin'!
Got any pics/footage of you hangin' wallpaper?!!? CRYIN'!
I'm happy to feed the Paper Hat Brigade a cavalcade of inundation and watch it waft by and inspire their inherent dumbphucktitude,fueled by consternation.
I've heard lotsa schit and the whining from the Do-Nothing Crowd is perpetual background noise,none of which skews Reality and much to their chagrin.
Happiness is a high-pitched whine and freshly fallen tears,coupled with stomping little feet...you know the drill,you do it often.
Bless your heart.
Techsan,
Curiously enough,good schit sells itself and is yet another of the many of Life's constants. As an aside,I've always made money and money has never made me.
Coming full circle,I've beat more than a few things in the head with a good rifle and I've long been a proponent of skookum stocks,none of that "news" being new.
Cheer up,Seal Team Six drives BC's.
StillSchittyArcher,
Humored muchly,that you cain't stand on your own two itty-bitty feet and kudos for the perfect whine. All of your practice through the years,has really paid off!
Congratulations?
Nrut,
Your vicarious angst is palpable and rest assured I'll more than deliver the goods. Stay tuned,take notes and apply same...so as to reap the veritable cornucopia of Outdoors splendor that you KNOW is there,but cain't ever find.
You go girl! Chin up,chest out and keep telling yourself that you're doing "something"! I especially have an appreciation for your "ballistics" "knowledge". Too [bleep] funny!
JB,
As per always,I enjoy your version of "savvy",especially after having replied in full to garner the splendor of the enlarged imagery. Only someone who "knows" as much as you,could get their lips flappin' in such a manner,as to be oblivious to the Critters in the frame,which was of course more than halfa the point and a "dirty trick" both.
The roadside campsite is "quaint".
Always enjoy your humor,especially being it's never on purpose!
'holton,
My ears ain't the best,nor close. Too many burned out barrels and too many millions of board feet of Timber's throats cut.
I've seen me nekked and you must run with someone who's been fortunate enough to gawk the goods too. Your fascination is well founded.
huntsman',
It's a perpetual shame,that all the good stuff sails over pointy heads.
So I's gotta use leetle words and string them along patiently.
SamO,
I get it that you gotta revel in the sanctity of being a Pom-Pom toting Fan and that your aspirations never have aligned with your realizations. Groovin' on your inability to savvy a timeline,along with the heartfelt angst and jealous drool accompanying your Dreams of same. You'll always be able to ride a Donkey across the lawn,as a means of coming "close". Laffin!
Points awarded for your illuminating the wishes,while always a wallflower stuck doing the dishes. Mebbe you believe in reincarnation and you're holding your breath on a second pitch?!!?
Laffin'!
Ackleymam,
Lemme swing a 5lb hammer for you. I kept it lefthanded,so as to not bruise your "pride" needlessly. Laffin'!
Got any pics/footage of you hangin' wallpaper?!!? CRYIN'!
I'm happy to feed the Paper Hat Brigade a cavalcade of inundation and watch it waft by and inspire their inherent dumbphucktitude,fueled by consternation.
Perspective is always interesting and I could not help but notice your pictures of alpine country are from the perspective of someone looking up at a mountain.
I find it more interesting to reverse that perspective and show the view from above looking down.
A few example but you will have to forgive the donkeys.
John...Thorofare?
Cocadori,
Greybull River drainage.
Your first name wouldn't be Ric?? I think, but could be wrong, that Calvin and Lil Fish think you might be someone else.
On belling the mules tails. None of mine are broke to drive. The first bell is drive and the second is pack and the last bell is ride. All mine are broke to ride and pack so the bell system would not apply. Don't have time to really keep all 4 in tune for riding so I reckon there is no way I am going to try and work on driving.
Anyway lets get this back on topic.
I would like to know if anyone has a good solution for the AR-15. I am currently run sans any cover because of how slow the BC/Alumina covers are to employ with the AR.
Perspective is always interesting and I could not help but notice your pictures of alpine country are from the perspective of someone looking up at a mountain.
I find it more interesting to reverse that perspective and show the view from above looking down.
A few example but you will have to forgive the donkeys.
John...Thorofare?
Cocadori,
Greybull River drainage.
Your first name wouldn't be Ric?? I think, but could be wrong, that Calvin and Lil Fish think you might be someone else.
On belling the mules tails. None of mine are broke to drive. The first bell is drive and the second is pack and the last bell is ride. All mine are broke to ride and pack so the bell system would not apply. Don't have time to really keep all 4 in tune for riding so I reckon there is no way I am going to try and work on driving.
Anyway lets get this back on topic.
I would like to know if anyone has a good solution for the AR-15. I am currently run sans any cover because of how slow the BC/Alumina covers are to employ with the AR.
I've got BC's on mine and agree they are far from ideal on an AR. Aluminas would be similar. Just bad ergo's for getting to the tabs.
I don't own any ARs John. Why are the Alumina covers slower to open on the AR platform?
Your right hand is far away from the ocular when in firing position.
Originally Posted by Boxer
JB,
As per always,I enjoy your version of "savvy",
Thanks buddy.
Your enthusiasm for the for the mule pictures is nice. Here are a few more. You owe us some new rainforest pictures.
There are bighorn sheep right above us in this picture.
SteelcityArcher,
Well it is �exactly�:
Magpul CRT butt stock A-5 Receiver extension with 5.3 Oz buffer Full auto bolt carrier (gun is semi auto) Jewel Trigger Magpul MOE handgrip Yankee Hill 5.56 1/7 twist chrome lined barrel with carbine gas Troy Claymore flash suppresser Vltor CASV handguard Spikes upper and lower Greybull Precision 4.5-14X50mm optic in Leupold PRW rings
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Nice pic's folks- including Boxer's!
Thanks Jeff. I too have enjoyed everyones pictures and I hope I am not being too much of a bore with mine but Lil Fish really seems to like the Mule pictures.
Perspective is always interesting and I could not help but notice your pictures of alpine country are from the perspective of someone looking up at a mountain.
I find it more interesting to reverse that perspective and show the view from above looking down.
A few example but you will have to forgive the donkeys.
John...Thorofare?
Cocadori,
Greybull River drainage.
Your first name wouldn't be Ric?? I think, but could be wrong, that Calvin and Lil Fish think you might be someone else.
On belling the mules tails. None of mine are broke to drive. The first bell is drive and the second is pack and the last bell is ride. All mine are broke to ride and pack so the bell system would not apply. Don't have time to really keep all 4 in tune for riding so I reckon there is no way I am going to try and work on driving.
Anyway lets get this back on topic.
I would like to know if anyone has a good solution for the AR-15. I am currently run sans any cover because of how slow the BC/Alumina covers are to employ with the AR.
Beautiful rig, pack, and, judging from the beaver-knawed stumplings, country as well. A ScopeShield in Digital Gray might round it out.
John, I have a solution for you. I'm not sure exactly what it is, but if you send me that AR and one of your 243s, I'll have it worked out by the end of the year
Deer died at the muzzle. I had never hunted this spot before, took about 3 hours to go less than 1.5 miles back to camp in the dark. For reference my lawn takes less than 30 seconds from end to end.
smokingpoles, I've heard lotsa schit and the whining from the Do-Nothing Crowd is perpetual background noise,none of which skews Reality and much to their chagrin.
TFF, "Skid-mark." Whilst you were sitting on your ass typing those words I was out shooting.
You know, you're a pretty good photographer. But you could kill the world record brown bear and moose on the same day with your bare hands, capture it all on your helmet-cam and make it into an award-winning docu-drama with you as the narrator and star, and you'd still be an assho**.
smokingpoles, I've heard lotsa schit and the whining from the Do-Nothing Crowd is perpetual background noise,none of which skews Reality and much to their chagrin.
TFF, "Skid-mark." Whilst you were sitting on your ass typing those words I was out shooting.
You know, you're a pretty good photographer. But you could kill the world record brown bear and moose on the same day with your bare hands, capture it all on your helmet-cam and make it into an award-winning docu-drama with you as the narrator and star, and you'd still be just a garden variety assho**.
Ignore 'stick?..... And miss out on pearls like this?
Originally Posted by Boxer
vocation don't change my location,despite your consternation of the situation,which only fuels your frustration. Funny how yesterday's realizations,fuel your Imaginations.
' 'tions'(shuns),puns and prose, pepsi out the nose.
I will admit to getting a laugh now and then. But that schtick is what, 20 years old? At least Johnny Cochran used proper syntax.
But you could kill the world record brown bear and moose on the same day with your bare hands, capture it all on your helmet-cam and make it into an award-winning docu-drama with you as the narrator and star, and you'd still be an assho**.
Of course if larry had a helmet cam on we would'nt see anything above the moose and bears knee caps...
What is the specific model of the shooting stick and what is its height range, collapsed and extended.
Thanks
That is the Stoney Point Tripod in the Explorer length. Those are older generation made in the USAs and are really durable. There have been some reports of issues with the Made in China ones. Kinda in the same vein as the Made in China BC scope caps.
As I am not the best shot in the world I find it worth the extra pain the butt to pack the shooting sticks and have shot quite a bit of game off them, both from standing and sitting as the terrain dictates.
Here is a short video of them being used on a whitetail this year.
What is interesting is we have a guy who has spent most of his life in Alaska bragging and posting pics of the 100,000,000 board feet of lumber he has cut down and yet he can't hang one pic of brown bear, moose goat, sheep or elk he has killed..... but I'm pretty sure I know the reason!
I've come to the conclusion all the fish & rifle pics means he beats the fish to death with the rifle--that's the purpose of the BC scope covers--it keeps the fish guts off the lens.......
What is interesting is we have a guy who has spent most of his life in Alaska bragging and posting pics of the 100,000,000 board feet of lumber he has cut down and yet he can't hang one pic of brown bear, moose goat, sheep or elk he has killed..... but I'm pretty sure I know the reason!
I've come to the conclusion all the fish & rifle pics means he beats the fish to death with the rifle--that's the purpose of the BC scope covers--it keeps the fish guts off the lens.......
Casey
I'm sure it's all tied in to cruzin the beaches and shooting those "Trophy animals"
I don't own any ARs John. Why are the Alumina covers slower to open on the AR platform?
Your right hand is far away from the ocular when in firing position.
John,
I may be wrong, but I seem to recall my alumina flip ups open with a push tab on the left side. So you dont need to move your right hand... Will check in the am to confirm...
Never heard of BC's stumping anyone,especially aboard an AR. Whether throwing it to the shoulder from a sling or getting into gear ala MPAJ,the strongside mitt cain't go anywhere but in proximity to slap the flap and even if one is hip on crowding the magwell with the weak hand,it's still oriented to open the objective cover. Very easy to have them long opened,before the butt ever nestles the shoulder and in a fluid motion. Mall Ninja vertical grips are the only way to be out of position for rapid implementation,but they's Goat [bleep] in and of themselves.
'Course you're pissing up a rope with that scope and any fore ends that ain't floating are a Goat [bleep]. Like most everywhere else,it's tough to beat a 6x42 there,or a Mk4 6x on a build that ain't slated to be svelte.
EOtechs are great until you are playing in the Monsoons and their Scope Purse covers are dog schit too. BC or bust.
Goat [bleep].
'Bout right.
Good form makes alotta schit easy. Hint.
MagnumDouche,
Always a pleasure to watch you polish knobs,if only because noone does it better.
Bless your heart!
smokingpoles,
Feel free to extoll on "all" that shootin' you were doin' and perhaps touch on the means and their particulars...if only because it'll be funnier than [bleep]! Dare ya'.
Ackleymam,
Was gonna do the grandiose collage for you,so as to keep your whine rollickin',but the [bleep] wind kept blowing schit all around and the sun was falling too fast to cast a nice light from the bow of one of my boats. If I get a nice day I'll sprinkle a couple few thousand prints in the backyard and shoot down from a bedroom window...but I've no doubt that you'll have little difficulty keepin' that whining pace of your's until then.
Cheer up,Jesus was a Carpenter and he weren't real either.
Laffin'!
K-She,
Always a pleasure to watch you writhe and be totally devoid of bringin' anything to the table,save that "glorious" 3pt in your Avatar.
Too [bleep] funny!
'crick,
A guy cain't be afeared to put good riggin' to use and in fairness,not all riggin' is equal.
Cheer up,mebbe everyone has forgotten how you were running your [bleep] mouth and came up well shy of empty with your "hard charging" ways and lofty Scope Purse "conquests"?!!?
Give or [bleep] take.
Kudos to your Imagination and to how very badly you need it!
Feel free to extoll on "all" that shootin' you were doin' and perhaps touch on the means and their particulars...if only because it'll be funnier than [bleep]! Dare ya'.
Boxer stain: You mean the "shootin'" I was doing whilst you were pounding the keyboard? TFF man, I know you crack yourself up, but now you're crackin' me up too!!
Noone was ever under the illusion you was gonna spill the beans on what "all" of that shootin' entailed,especially ware wise and in regards to particulars,which is of course the most hilarious part.
Farewell Sunday is the day slated to stowing gear back away,patching waders,tying up more gear,washing duds,bleachin' packs,changin' corks,reloading,rat holin' rifles and what not. There's more than a whole buncha riggin' that gets whistled through in an R&R and the weather and abuse does none of it any favors,so I try to set aside the better part of a day to keep abreast of what needs tossed,repaired or re-ordered. Must be nice to do as little as you and not fret anything of the sort,you really are "lucky"!
You'd need a co-signer for my powder bill. Bless your heart and here's to your Imagination.
I keep purty good notes and color coordinate to boot,to make sense outta it all. No thang.
The glass you cite is a MK4 M3 6x and like all fixed MK4's it's a 40mm objective. Got 'em in 10x and 16x,though they'd not be my preference on a Utility Gasser.
And another piece of [bleep] schit 4.5-14x.
smokingpoles,
I get it that you know better than to try to talk rifles with me and I'm enjoyin' your long/awkward silence in regards to your Secret Squirrel Mission!
It ain't a secret Larry. It's just that I have no doubt whatever I say, you'll try your best to sh** all over it, so why would I take the bait? You're nothing if not predictable.
I didn't think you'd take me up on the offer to compare W-2's, I'm still laffin' at that, you walked right into it.
That's actually my only real beef with Boxer. His jabs are just amusing- it's the utter lack of good faith. His sole intent is to stir people up and cause chit, and keep the chit stirred up as long as possible.
But whatever. To each their own. As long as the folks involved understand the game being played, and these days they do, then his trolling doesn't mess up the forum too bad.
I still say there's a place around the Fire for the gentleman, if his sole MO wasn't as described above.
But I'm just a dumbphuck who got his butt kicked by a Nosler box, what do I know.
Larry thanks - I thought it was the gun/scope you referred to above, but had not seen a sunshade on a 6x42, did not know if the MK4 was diff or not from M8/FX series in that regard -
M3 is a nice touch - seems to be a very quick set up and low profile to boot, plenty precise for sporting use I'd assume.
Never heard of BC's stumping anyone,especially aboard an AR. Whether throwing it to the shoulder from a sling or getting into gear ala MPAJ,the strongside mitt cain't go anywhere but in proximity to slap the flap and even if one is hip on crowding the magwell with the weak hand,it's still oriented to open the objective cover. Very easy to have them long opened,before the butt ever nestles the shoulder and in a fluid motion. Mall Ninja vertical grips are the only way to be out of position for rapid implementation,but they's Goat [bleep] in and of themselves.
'Course you're pissing up a rope with that scope and any fore ends that ain't floating are a Goat [bleep]. Like most everywhere else,it's tough to beat a 6x42 there,or a Mk4 6x on a build that ain't slated to be svelte.
EOtechs are great until you are playing in the Monsoons and their Scope Purse covers are dog schit too. BC or bust.
Goat [bleep].
'Bout right.
Good form makes alotta schit easy. Hint.
MagnumDouche,
Always a pleasure to watch you polish knobs,if only because noone does it better.
Bless your heart!
smokingpoles,
Feel free to extoll on "all" that shootin' you were doin' and perhaps touch on the means and their particulars...if only because it'll be funnier than [bleep]! Dare ya'.
Ackleymam,
Was gonna do the grandiose collage for you,so as to keep your whine rollickin',but the [bleep] wind kept blowing schit all around and the sun was falling too fast to cast a nice light from the bow of one of my boats. If I get a nice day I'll sprinkle a couple few thousand prints in the backyard and shoot down from a bedroom window...but I've no doubt that you'll have little difficulty keepin' that whining pace of your's until then.
Cheer up,Jesus was a Carpenter and he weren't real either.
Laffin'!
K-She,
Always a pleasure to watch you writhe and be totally devoid of bringin' anything to the table,save that "glorious" 3pt in your Avatar.
Too [bleep] funny!
'crick,
A guy cain't be afeared to put good riggin' to use and in fairness,not all riggin' is equal.
Cheer up,mebbe everyone has forgotten how you were running your [bleep] mouth and came up well shy of empty with your "hard charging" ways and lofty Scope Purse "conquests"?!!?
Give or [bleep] take.
Kudos to your Imagination and to how very badly you need it!
All that time in alaska and that's the best you can do...your are pathetic, but then everyone knows that!
I'm with John. The ergo's of BC's on an AR leave something to be desired. The height of the scope is one thing. The pistol grip another. The general situation just isn't ideal.
It's what's on my AR and I can certainly work them but, not ideal.
It's fun to look at the AR pics! Mine is a pretty plain Bushy M4gery with a light on a small front rail/block, and the pressure switch to run it, being the only mods. Cool rifles and endlessly customizable.
I'm with John. The ergo's of BC's on an AR leave something to be desired. The height of the scope is one thing. The pistol grip another. The general situation just isn't ideal.
I am not sure what you guys are talking about. I have them on my AR's and never noticed an issue. Flip them open and shoot. Big deal...
I'm with John. The ergo's of BC's on an AR leave something to be desired. The height of the scope is one thing. The pistol grip another. The general situation just isn't ideal.
I am not sure what you guys are talking about. I have them on my AR's and never noticed an issue. Flip them open and shoot. Big deal...
You have to keep in mind both JeffO and I had a struggle with the new Nosler bullets boxes. Lucky some kind fellow posted (with Pictures) the proper way to open these overly complicated things and my life has really taken a turn for the better.
If someone could just solve this dilemma I would really be livin Large.
I have used the BCs and later the Alumina covers but never with the satisfaction that design offers when used in conjunction with the bolt action rifle. The big appeal of the design is ability to actuate the ocular lens cover from the firing grip. Not possible with the AR.
Standard Butler Creeks on a 2.5-8 VariX III. No drop chart on scope and elevation cap is installed.
Standard BC cover. Notice elevation cap is missing and a drop chart taped to the scope. The little girl in the picture is now married, is an ER nurse and has her own little girl.
Here I had the standard objective cover and another objective cover on the ocular. Also of note is gun mounted White Light and Wilderness three point sling.
Same objective/objective lens cover set up but notice the high tech Stoney point turret along with the drop chart.
Must have got mad at the BCs for being slow because they are off the gun here. Notice the same scope but now running a Premier Reticle installed target turret. Getting warmer.
Must be mad a scope covers again. Notice 1 inch 4.5-14 with target turret. No taped on drop chart because there is a custom tuned Drop Compensating turret hiding under that elevation cap.
If you just use your AR at the range or for taking pictures of in the snow then you will not be hampered by awkwardness of the Alumina or BC style covers. Of course you really don�t need any cover for those �hard use� situations.
Dat's funny...BC Blizzards are an abortion...might as well wrap cellaphane or scotch tape over your high quality coated lenses you'll be able to see just as clearly as looking thru plastic
I used to use regular BCs. I didn't like opening the hinges, so I drilled 4mm holes through both covers to see better. That way I got the protection of BCs, the benefit of my high quality coated lenses, and didn't have to rely on the hinges. Win.
I used to use regular BCs. I didn't like opening the hinges, so I drilled 4mm holes through both covers to see better. That way I got the protection of BCs, the benefit of my high quality coated lenses, and didn't have to rely on the hinges. Win.
Well, you have to figure out the exit pupil for each scope, and drill out to the correct size. I just used 4mm as an example on my current scope. You have to be careful not to drill too far as even the best coatings aren't scratch resistant against a high speed cobalt drill bit.
The big appeal of the design is ability to actuate the ocular lens cover from the firing grip. Not possible with the AR.
You know, there is no law that says you cannot move your hand over 1" to hit the red button. You don't have to keep your hand on the grip to open them. The other choice is to simply put an objective cover on the eye piece, then there is a tab on each side of the scope which can be flicked with the thumb. Or hit the button with your left hand.
Dat's funny...BC Blizzards are an abortion...might as well wrap cellaphane or scotch tape over your high quality coated lenses you'll be able to see just as clearly as looking thru plastic
When was the last time you tried a Blizzard? They had a bad run for a while, in which they produced lenses that were optically complete garbage. When they first started, and now that they've had the problem resolved for a couple of years, the optical quality was and is much better. Granted, the lenses on my nice scopes show a slight bit more brightness and resolution bare, than when looking through the caps, but not much. It's pretty easy for me to shoot animals at dawn and dusk, and it's also easy for me to shoot small groups at 200 yards with a 6x scope, all while looking through the Blizzards.
You can see a lot better through the Blizzards than you can through the standard Flip-ups You can flip up either cap, but at least with the Blizzard you have the option of taking a quick snap shot without touching the cap. I don't see a down side when compared to the regular Flip-ups...
Blizzards are all I've been using for the last decade, and I have found them to be anything BUT at abortion.
It is always easy to tell when you have scrounged up enough change to run your Moped down to the liquor store and treat yourself to a nice bottle of Mogen David.
I never can figure out how you Photo Shop drunk but it does make me laugh.
It is always easy to tell when you have scrounged up enough change to run your Moped down to the liquor store and treat yourself to a nice bottle of Mogen David.
It is always easy to tell when you have scrounged up enough change to run your Moped down to the liquor store and treat yourself to a nice bottle of Mogen David.
Is that 20/20, or the cheap stuff?
I personally insist on the best, the MadDog 20/20, rich bouquet, hints of the well fertilized vinyard just at dusk, not to mention chock full of vitamin C.
does that mean boxer=Karmer ?? and burns and boxer are really buddies ? LOL
Get real. Boxer is Castanza.
Will someone with photoshop PLEEZE make that happen?
Heck, there's a Village People dude with (almost) my name. Bastid actually looks kind of like me too. His face I mean. My bellbottoms are WAY cooler than his.
Well, now that is has calmed somewhat, I thought I would address exterior scope fogging and its causes.
Aside from rain, fog, slop and goo that may fall directly on scope lenses in the field, hunters are additionally plagued by "fogging" on exterior scope lenses. Fogging is simply the condensation of water on the scope lenses and body for precisely the same reasons as forms the morning dew. The "dewpoint" of air is the temperature at which it can no longer hold water as vapor, condensing from vapor to liquid water.
Humidity is the weight of water vapor contained in a defined weight of air. Warm air can hold more water vapor than cold air. When a surface such as the ground, or an auto windshield, or your scope lense cools the air touching it to the point that the air can no longer hold vapor, the water vapor condenses onto the cold surface as "fog" or frost.
What makes your scope surfaces cooler than the surrounding air? Interestingly, all earthly objects both absorb and radiate heat (IR) radiation. Dark colored objects absorb and radiate faster than light colored objects. The great majority of riflescopes are beautiful, basic black. Thus our black scope body will absorb heat energy rapidly from the sun, but will radiate that energy back into space at night or on dreary rainy or snowy days much faster than does the air surrounding it. (Most air being clear rather than black!) This faster loss of heat energy by the riflescope compared to the air around it, in addition to the cooling effect of physical evaporation of rain or snow water on the scope, may drop the scope temperature below the dewpoint, and, presto, everything gets covered in "fog".
What to do? The first step is to attempt to physically separate ambient air from the scope surfaces. Flip-up type lense covers will provide a barrier over the lenses, but allow the whole surface of the scope body to cool by irradiation and evaporation, which in turn will cool the lenses. Lenses cooler than the dewpoint will fog.
Flip-ups also come with other problems, including sometimes clumsy operation in pressing the separate release buttons, one fore and one aft, legendary problems with them falling off in the field, breaking in scabbards, or actually trapping moisture or debris between the flip-up lense and the scope lense.
The most effective approach is the full ScopeShield neoprene cover, which keeps the ambient air, moisture and debris away from all of the scope surfaces. This sort of insulation also slows evaporative and radiational cooling, minimizing the risk of the scope becoming a sort of little refrigerator, destined to fog.
Well, I'll be the azzhole who says (again) that the BC's have worked pretty well for me. Flipping them open is just a muscle-memory thing. Properly sized, they won't fall off.
Mostly though, I can't be slingshotting a cover off my scope with a wary buck 25 yards away doing the "I see you but I'm not sure what you are" gig.
Different strokes. Not dissing your covers; just don't like to see the BC's bashed unfairly. I know you have to contrast the mechanics of your system against existing ones... but IMHO you are overstating the "problems" with BC's.
What's funny is that the fight that first put me on the out's with the Alaska crowd (at that time) and their posse back in '07 when I first joined, was me saying I'd had BC's leak on me. Which they have.
[Hi Jeff! No one is an azzhole for saying BC's have worked pretty well for you, particularly when they have! Many have had long and good service from them. The focus seems to be on the most recent years where changes were made in their construction. My experience falls in that range, culminating in one exasperating experience that caused me to discard them forever...and they weren't even defective!
It was after that when I stumbled across a ScopeShield, hunted a full season, then tracked down Jon Stram the inventor and went into business. The campfire is a terrific place to bring ALL experience together for the benefit of members who want every side of opinion and experience available. Note that many members would not agree that the problems with BC's are overstated, while many others would. That is the very discussion that the originator of this thread wished to see!
Incidentally, the ScopeShield does not require the "slingshot" method when up very close, as I have been. When that buck walks up behind you, it is effortlessly, and silently, removed in slow motion if need.
Thanks for being a good and very civil member of the 'fire.
The most effective approach is the full ScopeShield neoprene cover, which keeps the ambient air, moisture and debris away from all of the scope surfaces.
Unless the ScopeShield forms a gas tight seal between lens and air, damp air will penetrate and fog the scope or get liquid water on it at times of high humidity cold. Saturated air close to freezing temp is tough. A good test would be to walk around in brush for an hour in 100% humidity 33 degree rain with a ScopeShield on the rifle, then hop in a vehicle for a one mile drive, then get out in the rain and hunt some more.
If the ScopeShield does form a gas tight seal over the scope lenses, it only protects the scope until the cover comes off. Then saturated air has access to the glass and will be locked in next to the lens when the cover goes back on.
What about fitting a Michael's style rubber sealing disc inside the ends of the ScopeShield?
Fir needles "comb" water out of saturated air, forming drops large enough to drip from each needle every minute or so. Liquid water forms on virtually every surface, every hair and fiber, yet it is not raining. That's a different problem.
I'm glad you are working on a solution. Our extremely wet conditions represent a small minority of hunters and small a market. Some solutions adequate for a majority don't work as well in specialized needs, as is normal for most of life.
Well-said Okanogan. An Australian hunter, later a customer, observed a common problem similar to the experiment you describe above. Transiting in an air-conditioned vehicle (cool scope and surfaces) then hopping out into warm, highly humid air, the scope would fog right up. It would of course be temporary, but if you hopped out to shoot, it was vexing.
I can't imagine the little insulative value of the ScopeShield helped dramatically, but I have not heard back from him. It certainly didn't hurt.
We had not thought of a Michael's style sealing disc as an approach. Gotta love the campfire!
That is a question that I've wondered for a long time. The computers in our cars are far more advanced than what was available to the Lunar Lander and the attending space craft.
I've used inner tubes, flip-ups and other scope covers for weeks in Alaska and other places. ALL will end up with condensation on the lenses in certain conditions, but in general I've come to prefer ScopeShields due to their quick one-point release (much like the original Uncle Mike's rubber band covers) and their protection of the rest of the scope.
But who cares what any one of us uses--UNLESS any one of us explains their specific reasons? Which hasn't happened all that much in this thread.
I've used inner tubes, flip-ups and other scope covers for weeks in Alaska and other places. ALL will end up with condensation on the lenses in certain conditions, but in general I've come to prefer ScopeShields due to their quick one-point release (much like the original Uncle Mike's rubber band covers) and their protection of the rest of the scope.
But who cares what any one of us uses--UNLESS any one of us explains their specific reasons? Which hasn't happened all that much in this thread.
Well that jackass slg888 got jiggy with photoshop and just ruined what had been a very informative thread.
This is why we can't have nice threads here on 24 HR.
I am going to order one of those silly scope shields for the machine gun and give it a go.
Imitation is THE most sincere form of flattery and in fairness...I do enjoy the constant that them who cain't bring anything to the table in the firsthand,relish in their dumbphucktitude(though obliviously).
Hmmmmmm...let's see,what sights to show you poor Do-Nothing Dumbphucks first?!!? You "rough & tumble" gals really "test" the hell outta things. Laffin'!
Let's visit weather.
Atmospheric conditions.
Travel.
Then we'll touch upon B&C constants,in the Real World.
It will always remain curious to me,that them who do the least...bitch the most. Equally strange,that they wantonly reach for a cock,long before a tit. I'll be in the Beaver Patch with the B&C's,ringin' more than a few bells.
Oh my two more weeks of neat pictures.. Looking forward to it "short" stuff!..
your poor wife.. Oh well, that's her problem..
BTW my sorry ass was on the couch the whole time you were gone but since I just got a new wolf rifle I should maybe think about sighting it in while we are running unseasonably warm temps..
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