What exactly can one expect with these?

Are these used, scratched, any defects etc?????


Any return policy?

I got one of these in a 3-9x40 Zeiss Conquest. Can't tell the difference between it and a new one I purchased sometime later. I believe you can return it before you mount it if it's not what you want.

Every demo unit I have purchased from Cameraland, both binoculars and scopes, has been indistinguishable from new.

Several years ago I purchased a Conquest demo scope, and a couple of weeks ago I purchased a pair of Swaro demo binos. They both looked new to me. Buy cameraland demos with confidence.

thanks

All I have bought were better than I expected!

Even when Doug describes them as well used they are better than I expect...

dougs demo units likely are actually new. none of the demos I have bought don't look new. selling a "demo" unit is a way to sell for below MSRP without pissing off all the other retailers of the product who would complain that so and so dealer is selling below MSRP. now some demo's doug sells do come with a reduced warranty, leica products in particular. I have used cameraland all the time to horsetrade in and out of optics and upgrade over the years. it helps to know the right people.

My Zeiss Victory 8x32 demos arrived yesterday. No defects that I could detect, and about $500+ off full retail at Cameraland. Crazy not to take advantage of it.

Yep, spot on!

Last year I have purchased a Zeiss Victory Diavari 3-12x56 scope from CLNY. It must have been displayed in a high traffic store because the power ring was loose and turned without much resistance. Beyond that it sounded and felt like there was some sand or other gritty material under the ring. Cameraland offered to take it back. Since they didn't have an other one, I have decided to keep it and sent it to Zeiss for repair. Six weeks later it has arrived fixed and 100% operational-free of charge of course. Having sad that I will keep buying demo products from Cameraland. It's hard to beat their service and prices.

I have bought several demos from Doug. His descriptions are spot on. Two of the Zeiss Varipoint scope I bought were described as "having ring marks" and he reflected that in the price. One of them, he actually called Zeiss, then me to let me know he thought the price should be lower. He took another 100$ off. After receiving the scope, I realized that they used some type of adhesive to keep the scope from slipping in the rings. After a little bit of elbow grease, you can't even see the marks and the scope looks almost new.

Buy a demo from Doug with confidence! I'm just waiting for a Leica 2.5-10 with TT in #4 reticle. Hint, hint... LOL

We make sure that all demos are 100% optically perfect. Some will have cosmetic blemishes which will be taken into account when they are priced.
If you ever get a demo, sample, open box unit, etc. from us and it does not meet your expectation then just contact us and we will take it back. Never an issue.

BTW, we have added Meopta demos to our available demos as well as a super sale on select Brunton Binoculars and Riflescopes

I have bought a couple demos from Cameraland and the only way you couldn't tell they were new is the price.
Still hoping they will get some Zeiss Conquest 3-9x40 sometime.

Same story here; I've bought several demo optics items from them, rangefinder, binos, spotter, and all could not be discerned from new units. Can't beat the value.

That's all I buy and I'm on my fourth one!

Doug @ Camera Land

[email protected]
http://www.cameralandny.com
212-753-5128

Thanks for the support.


Well, thanks for what you guys do for us...

DF

I just ordered two of the Meopta demos. {{{{G}}}}}}

Waiting for the Leica Geovid HD B demos

Thats all I buy now are the demo units from Doug...I have bought spotters and binos as demos and they were all in new condition.

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Same here.
I have bought "several" items.

stumpy

Hey folks,
Just a geads up, we received a bunch of shipments lately from most of the mfg's we represent.

Here are links to the various demo pages:

Brunton Spring Opportunity Sale

Burris

Leica

Meopta

Minox

Nikon

Pentax

Steiner

Swarovski

Zeiss

Zen-Ray

As a general rule there are no Vortex demos, however, at the beginning of the year we posted the following and I have edited down the list to show what is still available.
Some riflescopes posted on this list are scopes that were shipped out and returned for various reasons (wrong reticle, changed mind, wanted a different power, etc) but they have not been mounted. Please feel free to call Neil or Doug @ 212-753-5128 with any questions or to purchase one of these Vortex items.

Vortex Display/Demo Product Sale

We are cleared out our 2012 display case in order to freshen it up for the new year. Every year we put new goods on display and sell off the existing display. These products are never out in the field as they are from our in store showcases and only handled gently here in the store. We have all the original boxes and accessory items that come with them and all are covered by the Vortex VIP warranty.
These demo/display opportunities will not be on our web site as we only have one and in some cases two of each item and we feel they will sell quicker than our web builder would be able to update our site. If there is anything on this list that is of interest to you please call Doug or Neil @ 212-753-5128 to inquire about it. You can send a PM or an e-mail to gr8fuldougaol.com however that item may be gone before we have a chance to reply to you so calling us would be best.

Razor HD Riflescopes (30mm Tube, Illuminated Reticle)
Razor HD 1�4x24 Riflescope with EBR-556 Reticle (MOA) RZR124-E @ $999.99

Viper PST Riflescopes (30mm Tube, Illuminated Reticle) - FFP
Viper PST 4�16x50 FFP Riflescope with EBR-1 Reticle (MRAD) PST-416F1-M @ $749.99
Viper PST 4�16x50 FFP Riflescope with EBR-1 Reticle (MOA) PST-416F1-A @ $699.99

Viper PST Riflescopes (30mm Tube, Illuminated Reticle) - SFP
Viper PST 4�16x50 Riflescope with EBR-1 Reticle (MRAD) PST-416S1-M @ $579.99
Viper PST 2.5�10x44 Riflescope with EBR-1 Reticle (MRAD) PST-210S1-M @ $449.99
Viper PST 1�4x24 Riflescope with TMCQ Reticle (MOA) PST-14ST-A @ $419.99
Viper PST 1�4x24 Riflescope with TMCQ Reticle (MRAD) PST-14ST-M @ $419.99
Viper PST 1�4x24 (Capped turrets) Riflescope with TMCQ Reticle (MOA) PST-43111 @ $399.99

Viper HS LR FFP Riflescopes (30mm Tube)
Vortex Viper HS 4-16x50 LR FFP XLR Matte Black VHS-4313-LR @ $679.99
Vortex Viper HS 6-24x50 LR FFP XLR Matte Black VHS-4315-LR @ $729.99

Viper HS Riflescopes (30mm Tube)
Viper HS 4�16x50 Riflescope with V-Plex Reticle (MOA) VHS-4306 @ $449.99
Viper HS 4�16x44 Riflescope with V-Plex Reticle (MOA) VHS-4304 @ $399.99
iper HS 2.5�10x44 Riflescope with V-Plex Reticle (MOA) VHS-4302 @ $329.99

Diamondback Riflescopes (1-Inch Tube)
Diamondback 4�12x40 AO Riflescope with V-Plex Reticle (MOA) DBK-412PL @ $239.99
Diamondback 3.5�10x50 Riflescope with V-Plex Reticle (MOA) DBK-M-03P @ $199.99
Diamondback 3�9x40 Riflescope with V-Plex Reticle (MOA) DBK-M-01P @ $149.99

Crossfire II Riflescopes (1-Inch Tube)
Crossfire 4�12x50 AO Riflescope with V-Plex Reticle (MOA) CF2-31021 @ $169.99
Crossfire 3�9x50 Riflescope with V-Brite Reticle (MOA) CF2-31027 @ $179.99
Crossfire 3�9x50 Riflescope with V-Plex Reticle (MOA) CF2-31009 @ $134.99
Crossfire 2�7x32 Rimfire Riflescope with V-Plex Reticle (MOA) CF2-31001R @ $99.99

Razor Red Dot
Razor Red Dot Scope (3 MOA Dot) RZR-2001 @ $399.99
Razor Red Dot Scope (6 MOA Dot) RZR-2003 @ $399.99

Ranger Rangefinder
Ranger 1000 Rangefinder RRF-101 @ $329.99

Binoculars
2011 - Razor HD 8.5x50 Binocular RZR-5085-HD @ $849.99
2012 - Razor HD 10x42 Binocular RZB-2102 @ $999.99
2012 - Razor HD 8x42 Binocular RZB-2101 @ $974.99

Kaibab HD 15x56 Binocular K15 @ $999.99

Viper HD 10x50 Binocular VPR-5010-HD @ $519.99
Viper HD 10x42 Binocular VPR-4210-HD @ $499.99
Viper HD 8x42 Binocular VPR-4208-HD @ $499.99
Viper HD 8x32 Binocular VPR-3208-HD @ $474.99
Viper HD 6x32 Binocular VPR-3206-HD @ $469.99
Viper 10x28 Binocular V210 @ $269.99
Viper 8x28 Binocular V208 @ $249.99

Viper 10x50 R/T Tactical Binocular (MRAD R/T Ranging Reticle) V105RT @ $549.99
Viper 8x28 R/T Tactical Binocular (MRAD R/T Ranging Reticle) V828RT @ $329.99

Talon HD 10x42 Binocular TLN-4210-HD @ $399.99
Talon HD 8x42 Binocular TLN-4208-HD @ $399.99

Vulture HD 10x56 Binocular VR-1056 @ $299.99
Vulture HD 8x56 Binocular VR-0856 @ $299.99

Diamondback 10x50 Binocular D5010 @ $199.99
Diamondback 8.5x50 Binocular D5085 @ $189.99
Diamondback 10x42 Binocular D241 @ $184.99
Diamondback 8x42 Binocular D248 @ $179.99
Diamondback 10x28 Binocular D2810 @ $119.99
Diamondback 8x28 Binocular D2808 @ $114.99

Vanquish 10x26 Binocular VNQ-1026 @ $99.99
Vanquish 8x26 Binocular VNQ-0826 @ $94.99

Raptor 8.5x32 Binocular R385 @ $109.99
Raptor 6.5x32 Binocular R365 @ $99.99

Monoculars
Recon 15x50 Mountain Scope RH50 @ $449.99
Recon 10x50 R/T Tactical Scope (MRAD R/T Ranging Reticle) RT150 @ $499.99
Solo 8x36 Monocular S836 @ $84.99
Solo R/T 8x36 Tactical Monocular with Reticle Focus (MRAD R/T Ranging Reticle) SOL-3608-RT @ $99.99

Spotting Scopes
Razor HD 20�60x85 Angled Spotting Scope RZR-A1 @ $1279.99
Razor HD 20�60x85 Straight Spotting Scope RZR-S1 @ $1279.99
Viper HD 20�60x80 Angled Spotting Scope VPR-80A-HD @ $749.99
Viper HD 20�60x80 Straight Spotting Scope VPR-80S-HD @ $749.99
Viper HD 15�45x65 Angled Spotting Scope VPR-65A-HD @ $549.99
Viper 20�60x80 Angled Spotting Scope VPR-80A @ $649.99
Viper 20�60x80 Straight Spotting Scope VPR-80S @ $649.99
Viper 15�45x65 Angled Spotting Scope VPR-65A @ $419.99
Viper 15�45x65 Straight Spotting Scope VPR-65S @ $419.99

As stated above, quantities on these display units is limited to mostly one and in some cases two of each so if there is something you want please give Doug or Neil a call at 212-753-5128.

If I find $1750 on the ground this week, I'd love to call and order those Victory HTs 10x42. Great deal for someone with the cash to burn.

I know this is a few months old, but I am considering buying a Vortex Diamondback demo from Cameraland. Sounds like the majority of folks are happy with what they've received.

I've bought two binoculars (Zeiss Victory HT 10x42 and Swarovski EL 8x32 SV) and two rangefinders from Camerland, (Zeiss PRF & Leica 1600B) all demo units except one of the binoculars. All the demos looked new and performed as new.

Absolutely 1st class service and great prices.

I bought a demo unit Vortex Viper PST 1-4x24mm for my AR. Doug could have sold it as new full price and I would have never have known.

Be careful, Doug and Camera Land can get you in trouble with the spouse!! Great service and Great deals makes you want to spend $$$

I've purchased from Doug's demo products and I've purchased new scopes and binos from him. In every case the demo units appeared to be N.I.B.. Neither Doug nor Neil will quibble with your if you are unhappy with you purchase; they will go far, far, far beyond what I consider their obligation is to insure they keep you/me as a satisfied customer. When I do buy from Doug I know I'll end up with a an optic that is at least worth what I paid for it, and sometimes worth more than what I paid for it; I could flip an optic from the demo list and put it on eBay and get more than I paid for it.

I went ahead and ordered a demo Vortex Diamondback because of the positive responses in this thread. If I'm as satisfied as you all are, I'll be spreading the word.

Just received a "DEMO" Vortex 20X56 Binos from Doug and they appear NEW! It would be hard to tell they were ever removed from the box!

I have lost track of how many demo units I have bought but all were better than described and hard to tell from new!

I have bought a few demos from Doug and Neil and they appear to be brand new. I have purchased a used scope from a private individual and Neil helped me straighten out the manufacturer.

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I bought one demo from CL that had ring marks and it looked like someone took pliers to the threads on the turrets. Doug took it back without question. Glad to hear others are getting like new optics with demo buys. I've only went with new since, but may take advantage of the lower prices of the demos in the future.

I bought some Demo Zen-Ray ED3 binoculars from Nail at Cameraland. I cannot tell it from a brand new one. good stuff

I've bought a Zeiss binocular and two scope "demo's" and the only thing I could see was that it looks like the boxes MAY have been opened at one time or another.

I've bought at least 5 demo scopes and all have been 'as new'

Didn't buy a demo but last month bought the MeoPro that is on sale. When I received it I realized I wanted one with the German #4 reticle. Called Neil and he did an exchange. This post is actually about Neil. I've dealt with him quite a bit more than I have with Doug. Neil is fantastic, not that Doug isn't. It is a real pleasure to deal with him.

I have bought a couple of minox open box binocs. Great deals like new

Bought several demo Zeiss scopes and a rangefinder, nothing lead me to believe they'd ever been used. Great way to buy great optics at a great price.