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Posted By: woodson Meopta meopro 3-9x42 BDC - 12/15/13
Doing some google searches on what might be replacement glass for my 243, the meopta meopro 3-9x42 seems to be highly thought of. I really like the BDC reticle they use. Their claims of 99.8% light transmission seems impressive. Anyone run one of these scopes? How do you guys like em and what would you compare it to on the market. Seems like a schit ton of optics for a modest price.
Originally Posted by woodson
Doing some google searches on what might be replacement glass for my 243, the meopta meopro 3-9x42 seems to be highly thought of. I really like the BDC reticle they use. Their claims of 99.8% light transmission seems impressive. Anyone run one of these scopes? How do you guys like em and what would you compare it to on the market. Seems like a schit ton of optics for a modest price.


Had one impressive optics #4 reticle worked well in lowlight . All adjustments were solid, never an issue. Sold it to a member here.
I have a Cabela's Euro, which is a Meopta, with the Cabelas logo. It's on par with the Zeiss glass that I have, very clear and bright. I don't think you will be disapointed.
It's terrific glass and a solid, durable scope. It's virtually the same in performance as the discontinued Zeiss Conquest 3-9x40. You have to spend quite a bit more to get any notable improvements in resolving power/resolution.

As to the 99.8 percent, keep in mind that is per lens surface.
Posted By: woodson Re: Meopta meopro 3-9x42 BDC - 12/16/13
For the sub $500 price point and performance level, anyone have any other recommendations I should consider?
Posted By: woodson Re: Meopta meopro 3-9x42 BDC - 12/16/13
Been reading reviews all weekend and the Meopta seems like a winner.
Posted By: woodson Re: Meopta meopro 3-9x42 BDC - 12/16/13
Originally Posted by BobbyTomek
It's terrific glass and a solid, durable scope. It's virtually the same in performance as the discontinued Zeiss Conquest 3-9x40. You have to spend quite a bit more to get any notable improvements in resolving power/resolution.

As to the 99.8 percent, keep in mind that is per lens surface.


Funny you compare the conquest. I loved my conquest but I always felt it was difficult to "get behind". Felt like I was screwing around too much to get a full field of view. Is the meopta finicky in that regard?
Posted By: jorgeI Re: Meopta meopro 3-9x42 BDC - 12/16/13
There is just no comparison between a Conquest and a Meopta. The latter is light years ahead.
ive got the 3.5-10x44 RD meopro compared it to my meostar HD binocs and couldnt tell a difference in lowlight
Posted By: woodson Re: Meopta meopro 3-9x42 BDC - 12/16/13
Originally Posted by jorgeI
There is just no comparison between a Conquest and a Meopta. The latter is light years ahead.


Is the difference that noticeable? Seems like the conquest is the yard stick by which all others in this price point are judged.
Posted By: jorgeI Re: Meopta meopro 3-9x42 BDC - 12/16/13
Well that yardstick needs serious recalibrating. Compare them yourself.
Posted By: woodson Re: Meopta meopro 3-9x42 BDC - 12/16/13
Thanks Jorge. I'm pretty excited to get my paws on one. Good to see you think so highly of the meopro.
Posted By: mathman Re: Meopta meopro 3-9x42 BDC - 12/16/13
Are you an adjustment twister, or do you set and forget?
Posted By: jorgeI Re: Meopta meopro 3-9x42 BDC - 12/16/13
Originally Posted by woodson
Thanks Jorge. I'm pretty excited to get my paws on one. Good to see you think so highly of the meopro.


I'm a believer that actually compared stuff I own Z6s, Victory, VXIIIs and now MEOPROs. I just don't see me purchasing any other Euro from now on. Leupolds? always!
jorge how did the meopro compare to the z6 and victory?? i have the 3.5-10 meopro but no other euro scope to compare to
Posted By: woodson Re: Meopta meopro 3-9x42 BDC - 12/16/13
Originally Posted by mathman
Are you an adjustment twister, or do you set and forget?


Most certainly a set and forget guy.
Posted By: jorgeI Re: Meopta meopro 3-9x42 BDC - 12/16/13
Originally Posted by killindeer
jorge how did the meopro compare to the z6 and victory?? i have the 3.5-10 meopro but no other euro scope to compare to


I believe we discussed this extensively via PMs, the short answer: VERY favorably and had I known MEOPTAS then, I would not have forked over the extra coinage for the aformentioned..
Posted By: mathman Re: Meopta meopro 3-9x42 BDC - 12/16/13
Originally Posted by woodson
Originally Posted by mathman
Are you an adjustment twister, or do you set and forget?


Most certainly a set and forget guy.


You'll be OK with a Meopro then.

I have a 3-9x42 and it's clear, bright and has very easy going eye relief characteristics. I've tested it on a couple of very accurate 308's, and the adjustments were very good as far as going where they were supposed to, then staying there when left alone. My beef with them is the style of the adjustments, definitely not for a twister.
Posted By: woodson Re: Meopta meopro 3-9x42 BDC - 12/16/13
Thanks for your input mathman.
Posted By: jorgeI Re: Meopta meopro 3-9x42 BDC - 12/16/13
Spot on observation.
The ONLY gripe I have about the MeoPro's is the size of the eyepeice. It's BIG and causes bolt clearance issues on some rifles. Luckily it's a non-issue on my Sako's and Model 70's. The Optics are super. Bought one here on 'the fire' and liked it so much I quickly bought another. I agree that they are easier to get behind than a Conquest and I like my Conquests. I have kicked myself for not buying a 4-12x50 MeoPro that sold on here a while back for less than $400. Kick, Kick, Kick....
the eyepiece is definitely big. if it was any bigger at all it wouldnt clear on my rem 700. another thing i wish meopta offered was a heavier duplex reticle. their duplex is pretty thin
Honestly, I own both the Meopta and Conquest. I like the Meopta because it is a shorter scope but the clarity, brightness and resolution are about identical in my opinion. I literally cannot see a difference. Until Meopta comes out with an elevation turret, the edge has to go to Zeiss though.
Posted By: woodson Re: Meopta meopro 3-9x42 BDC - 12/16/13
Can anyone speak to BDC reticle Meopta uses? My only experience using a holdover reticle is limited to a Nikon Prostaff 22 BDC. The circles Nikon uses couldn't be worse IMO. The Meopta BDC looks rather straightforward and doesn't dominate the sight picture. Apparently one is to sight in dead on at 100 and the corresponding marks are for 200-500 yards but using what ballistics? One size can't fit all in this circumstance.
Posted By: mathman Re: Meopta meopro 3-9x42 BDC - 12/16/13
Originally Posted by woodson
Can anyone speak to BDC reticle Meopta uses? My only experience using a holdover reticle is limited to a Nikon Prostaff 22 BDC. The circles Nikon uses couldn't be worse IMO. The Meopta BDC looks rather straightforward and doesn't dominate the sight picture. Apparently one is to sight in dead on at 100 and the corresponding marks are for 200-500 yards but using what ballistics? One size can't fit all in this circumstance.


The way to do it is sight in the center wherever you want, then ignore their suggestions for the other marks. Proceed to reverse engineer the drop subtensions to whatever yardages match the actual trajectory curve you shoot.
Posted By: woodson Re: Meopta meopro 3-9x42 BDC - 12/16/13
Understood.
Posted By: johnfox Re: Meopta meopro 3-9x42 BDC - 12/16/13
Jorge may disagree, but is a very good comparison.

http://opticsthoughts.com/?page_id=112
Posted By: woodson Re: Meopta meopro 3-9x42 BDC - 12/16/13
That was a good read indeed thank you.
Posted By: Ghostman Re: Meopta meopro 3-9x42 BDC - 12/16/13
Don't have a 3x9x40 (have 2 Conquests in this size) but I do have a 6-18x50 and I just ordered a 4x12x50 with BDC. For the $$ Meopta Meopro scopes are hard to beat!
Posted By: woodson Re: Meopta meopro 3-9x42 BDC - 12/16/13
I'm just Gonna get a plex model. I honestly don't need the BDC.
Posted By: jorgeI Re: Meopta meopro 3-9x42 BDC - 12/16/13
Originally Posted by johnfox
Jorge may disagree, but is a very good comparison.

http://opticsthoughts.com/?page_id=112


Who am I to disagree with that well-reasoned report except to say "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" and I can never get a comfortable full view with my Conquests ( I have two ). And the Conquests are no longer available?
Posted By: mathman Re: Meopta meopro 3-9x42 BDC - 12/16/13
I generally like long eye relief, but I have two scopes that verge on having too much, a Conquest 3-9x40 and a VX-II 4-12x40AO. The latter scope I mount in rings moved forward on a rail base.
Posted By: Ghostman Re: Meopta meopro 3-9x42 BDC - 12/17/13
Originally Posted by woodson
Can anyone speak to BDC reticle Meopta uses? My only experience using a holdover reticle is limited to a Nikon Prostaff 22 BDC. The circles Nikon uses couldn't be worse IMO. The Meopta BDC looks rather straightforward and doesn't dominate the sight picture. Apparently one is to sight in dead on at 100 and the corresponding marks are for 200-500 yards but using what ballistics? One size can't fit all in this circumstance.


No one size doesn't fit all....Meopta and Zeiss both have a ballistics calculator on their site which requires info to be entered such as caliber, bullet weight, ballistics coefficient, elevation etc to calculate the distances for the BDC and Rapid Z reticle marks.

A few years ago I read a test report written by a gunwriter who tested many of the popular BDC type reticles. Meopta was not tested but Zeiss, Leupold, Nikon, Burris and several other brands were. His conclusion of the testing reported Zeiss's ballistics calculator and Rapid Z600-1000 reticles were dead on.

Leupold's reticles were a distant 2nd with the rest being mostly inaccurate. I wouldn't strictly rely on a program to determine bullet impact. Time behind the trigger is needed to verify.
Posted By: woodson Re: Meopta meopro 3-9x42 BDC - 12/17/13
I don't know if its accurate or not but I did run my handload over meoptas ballistic calculator. My load is within 5-6 yards of each intended hash mark.
One of the best low light scopes you will ever look thru.
Posted By: woodson Re: Meopta meopro 3-9x42 BDC - 12/17/13
Now that's an endorsement.
I have a 4-12x50 and couldn't be happier. I compared it in a bean field hunt the other evening against my z5 Swarovski. I was happy that the Meopta performed so well and almost disheartened that the Swarovski cost 3 times as much with very marginal gains. Well after legal shooting time the #4 in the Meopta was still very visible and the duplex in the swaro was almost invisible. According to swaro the duplex is as heavy as I can get in the 5-25. That's my 2 cents
Posted By: JGRaider Re: Meopta meopro 3-9x42 BDC - 12/19/13
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Originally Posted by johnfox
Jorge may disagree, but is a very good comparison.

http://opticsthoughts.com/?page_id=112


Who am I to disagree with that well-reasoned report except to say "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" and I can never get a comfortable full view with my Conquests ( I have two ). And the Conquests are no longer available?


That Ivan Putski lookin' nerd at opticsthoughts may be a smart guy, but he's no hunter, just a shooter. He's an arrogant worm who's lucky to even be over here in this great country. Screw him and his website. I'll take the Meopta every day over any Conquest, even though Meopta probably makes the Conquest components anyway.
Posted By: woodson Re: Meopta meopro 3-9x42 BDC - 12/20/13
I'm sold on the meopta. With the plex version being had for 363$ I can't lose. Look forward to it.
Posted By: gene270 Re: Meopta meopro 3-9x42 BDC - 12/20/13
good price where at ?
cabelas has the euro branded meoptas, might be called Instinct now.


Dave
Posted By: woodson Re: Meopta meopro 3-9x42 BDC - 12/20/13
Originally Posted by gene270
good price where at ?


https://www.thedigitaloasis.com/mobile/product.asp?itemid=28263
Posted By: johnfox Re: Meopta meopro 3-9x42 BDC - 12/21/13
Originally Posted by JGRaider

That Ivan Putski lookin' nerd at opticsthoughts may be a smart guy, but he's no hunter, just a shooter. He's an arrogant worm who's lucky to even be over here in this great country. Screw him and his website. I'll take the Meopta every day over any Conquest, even though Meopta probably makes the Conquest components anyway.


Dunno why you bothered to type that...
Posted By: woodson Re: Meopta meopro 3-9x42 BDC - 12/22/13
That may have been Maker's Mark induced?
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