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Posted By: starsky Heavier scope on a light rifle - 01/15/17
I put this SHV on a Kimber Adirondack and now I can't get the rifle to stay upright! It appears you guys that were saying this is a bad idea (light rifle + heavy scope) were right! Any advice on how I can fix this??

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Use a diver's weight belt for a sling. grin

Yea, I've always tried to avoid that -- just my sense of proportion 😏. For that rifle I would pick my glass which in combination with the rings & bases would come under a pound. You can still go ~ 1.25-5x, 2-7x, or 3-9x in several choices of optics. Save the SHV for later -- you're still young.

My sense is, why saddle a nice, light, compact rifle with resembling a small barbell? But that's just me.
Just flip the picture upside down and you'll be set! grin
Lay on your back?
Yep, shooting from the supine rather than prone position works for "turtled" rifles. Of course, the turrets won't work the same way.
Originally Posted by starsky
I put this SHV on a Kimber Adirondack and now I can't get the rifle to stay upright! It appears you guys that were saying this is a bad idea (light rifle + heavy scope) were right! Any advice on how I can fix this??

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I'm glad you posted that. I've said it many times, that it makes them "top heavy". Either change the stock or change the scope. But it damn sure throws the balance off the way it is. Another thing you can try is to carry it by the scope or carry the rifle upside down. Carry it slinged all day long like some here do... wink
Holding that rifle upright will only require modest wrist strength - should be a non issue unless you suffer from LWS (Limp Wrist Syndrome).

David
Originally Posted by Canazes9
Holding that rifle upright will only require modest wrist strength - should be a non issue unless you suffer from LWS (Limp Wrist Syndrome).

David


I guess you keep your wrist well exercised.... whistle
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by Canazes9
Holding that rifle upright will only require modest wrist strength - should be a non issue unless you suffer from LWS (Limp Wrist Syndrome).

David


I guess you keep your wrist well exercised.... whistle


Not a surpise that the little biatch complaining about carrying a sub 7 pound rifle starts sharing visions of someone else's manhood.

David
Originally Posted by starsky
I put this SHV on a Kimber Adirondack and now I can't get the rifle to stay upright! It appears you guys that were saying this is a bad idea (light rifle + heavy scope) were right! Any advice on how I can fix this??

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laugh laugh

Thanks goodness you have CRF to aid in your workaround for this issue.
Originally Posted by starsky
I put this SHV on a Kimber Adirondack and now I can't get the rifle to stay upright! It appears you guys that were saying this is a bad idea (light rifle + heavy scope) were right! Any advice on how I can fix this??

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Damn it I hate it when that happens.

I did the same thing but leave it on the floor so it can't flip around as easy.

17 oz scope on a sub 5 pound rifle.
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Originally Posted by starsky
I put this SHV on a Kimber Adirondack and now I can't get the rifle to stay upright! It appears you guys that were saying this is a bad idea (light rifle + heavy scope) were right! Any advice on how I can fix this??

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Flip it in Photoshop.You're welcome.
Load it up with bullets. Lowers the center of gravity!!!
Lol....flying over several heads ain't it
Well, obviously scoping a hunting rifle is nothing to joke about. :-)
Needs a bipod
Needs a bipod
Hard to make wise cracks with my phone doing the redirect virus chit every 10 seconds. Only place it ever does it.

I bet you are glad you asked aren't you Starsky? wink
You need an under-mount scope kit.
Originally Posted by Kaleb
Lol....flying over several heads ain't it


It nipped Lawrence. Haha.
The solution is obvious here. Longer action screws and a counterweight on the bottom of the stock to eve things out. 😜
Holy smokes there are some dense dudes here......
Posted By: BMT Re: Heavier scope on a light rifle - 01/15/17
Hollow out the stock, fill the stock with IPA, add a tap under the sling swivel stud, use like a camelback while stalking.
Originally Posted by BMT
Hollow out the stock, fill the stock with IPA, add a tap under the sling swivel stud, use like a camelback while stalking.


BMT for the win
Originally Posted by BMT
Hollow out the stock, fill the stock with IPA, add a tap under the sling swivel stud, use like a camelback while stalking.


Bota bag rifle stock. IPA lite.
Originally Posted by Formidilosus
Holy smokes there are some dense dudes here......


I was one. Took the ? at face value -- didn't really focus in the pic. 😜 😀
Starsky,
Your dilemma is a common one and can be easily solved....
You need to get one of them super duper UBER cool slings, they will act as a counter weight and with enough practice you could actually use it to carry your rifle after years of practice of course.
I myself have not mastered this skill to carry my rifle so I usually ask someone to carry my rifle on my hunts.
Originally Posted by BMT
Hollow out the stock, fill the stock with IPA, add a tap under the sling swivel stud, use like a camelback while stalking.


That is a pretty hefty scope, I think you are going to need a heavier beer. Guiness or at least some type of lager.
Originally Posted by George_De_Vries_3rd
Originally Posted by Formidilosus
Holy smokes there are some dense dudes here......


I was one. Took the ? at face value -- didn't really focus in the pic. 😜 😀


I'm still one...
I love how a 13oz scope is great but a 17-20 oz scope is crazy talk.....lol. I've the luxury of not being forced to guess...grin
Originally Posted by Kaleb
I've the luxury of not being forced to guess...grin




Great Stick impersonation.
I would possibly consider having the shank lengthened to even out the balance.

Tanner
So that's why they call it the Kimber roulette! They spin around when you lay them down.
Originally Posted by SamOlson
Originally Posted by Kaleb
I've the luxury of not being forced to guess...grin




Great Stick impersonation.


Laffin!
You just need a stabilizer: Gyro Stabilized Firing Platform GSP | EPE
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Originally Posted by starsky
I put this SHV on a Kimber Adirondack and now I can't get the rifle to stay upright! It appears you guys that were saying this is a bad idea (light rifle + heavy scope) were right! Any advice on how I can fix this??

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Duct tape.
That's what you get for going blind mag. You need a lotta rounds detachable mag. Even better if you get one of those multiple mag clamp things so you can load it for "perfect" balance.
I still have no idea what I'm missing here...
Originally Posted by BMT
Hollow out the stock, fill the stock with IPA, add a tap under the sling swivel stud, use like a camelback while stalking.



Well that's just plain dumb. Everyone knows you cant hit chiit with a butt heavy gun. blush
A better solution would be to tape a couple of 16oz. keystone light cans to the barrel. with blue tape of course.... duh cool

Balance got to have balance..... laugh
Originally Posted by MikeL2
You just need a stabilizer: Gyro Stabilized Firing Platform GSP | EPE
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This sorta made this thread worth while.
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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Yep, shooting from the supine rather than prone position works for "turtled" rifles. Of course, the turrets won't work the same way.


Good thing it's CRF, or else it wouldn't feed right.
Originally Posted by starsky
I put this SHV on a Kimber Adirondack and now I can't get the rifle to stay upright! It appears you guys that were saying this is a bad idea (light rifle + heavy scope) were right! Any advice on how I can fix this??


You done good to get off the couch. But if you want to get your name in the Hay Bale and Crockett record book, you're gonna have to pull out all the stops and get off the porch!

The gun will automatically go upright. With the right boolits.

Thank me later.


I am considering an almost identical setup,so how do you like it?


mike r
Lots of good ideas and suggestions here, thanks all.

Originally Posted by lvmiker
I am considering an almost identical setup,so how do you like it?


mike r


Other than the vertical orientation of the rifle, I like it a whole lot.
Want to check if this is ok I just put a SS3x15 on my 6.5 cmore hunter.
I will remove it immediately if not.

On a serious note how does the scope compare to the nxs line.
Originally Posted by kingston
I still have no idea what I'm missing here...


Humor
Originally Posted by starsky
Lots of good ideas and suggestions here, thanks all.

Originally Posted by lvmiker
I am considering an almost identical setup,so how do you like it?


mike r


Other than the vertical orientation of the rifle, I like it a whole lot.


I think you'll be able to adapt wink
One positive of it being upside down is that the bolt is on the "right" side now. So I got that going for me, which is nice.
Originally Posted by starsky
One positive of it being upside down is that the bolt is on the "right" side now. So I got that going for me, which is nice.


Now that I can relate to.
It'll also eject the shells more reliably that way as well with gravity working in conjunction with the ejector wink
Now it'll carry "euro style" on a sling much easier. wink
Originally Posted by kingston
I still have no idea what I'm missing here...


You are missing the fact that too many people get all wrapped around the axle when others have different preferences or opinions on "what works for them".

There have been several threads wherein people got all pissed off because someone else commented differently on what scope they could/should/would use on a specific rifle. This was usually followed by the typical bullying, name calling and attacking of indidivuals' heritage, sexuality and brain-power, or, lack thereof. You know? The typical 24HC thread.
I'm confused as always.
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by MikeL2
You just need a stabilizer: Gyro Stabilized Firing Platform GSP | EPE
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This sorta made this thread worth while.


Yes actually, that kind of looks like fun.
Originally Posted by starsky
One positive of it being upside down is that the bolt is on the "right" side now. So I got that going for me, which is nice.


Don't be so hard on yourself. You're an incredible slouch.
Fitness regimen needs modification maybe more upper body work
Originally Posted by Kimber7man
Originally Posted by starsky
One positive of it being upside down is that the bolt is on the "right" side now. So I got that going for me, which is nice.


Don't be so hard on yourself. You're an incredible slouch.


I never slice!

Originally Posted by Farming
Fitness regimen needs modification maybe more upper body work


More curls, got it.

Originally Posted by hanco
I'm confused as always.


Don't hurt yourself.
Dont forget the elevation adjustment will be inverted.
Looking at some old threads on the Montanas, it was often said 13oz scopes were toooo much... LOL
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Move to Australia?
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by MikeL2
You just need a stabilizer: Gyro Stabilized Firing Platform GSP | EPE
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This sorta made this thread worth while.

Yeah...
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Looking at some old threads on the Montanas, it was often said 13oz scopes were toooo much... LOL
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Hey man, did you notice somebody hung some railing from your porch ceiling and glued your rifle to it?
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