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I have a Remington cdl fluted rifle in .264 Win Mag.

I just mounted a Burris MTac 4.5-14 Ballistic Milling scope on it with Talley mounts. The mounts are STD with no slope to them.


I intend to mostly use the reticle for hold over and wind.....should this scope be sighted in on the nose at 100, or should it be sighted high at 100?

New to this mill dot stuff.
No instructions with scope?
You can zero at 100 or greater range. The 100-yard zero prompts you to use the mil dots more often. To make the most of a load's point-blank reach on big game without consulting mil dots for every shot I zero a mil dot scope the same as I do one with a standard plex or crosswire -- typically at 200 yards. The .264 Win. with frisky loads could, of course, use a 250-yard zero as well. Beyond that, the mil dots should help you. -- WvZ
Sight in dead on @ 100 and use a free ballistic app like JBM to get your MIL Drops. Then just plug your data in, and even better confirm it at the range with a Chrono helps a bunch.

http://www.jbmballistics.com/cgi-bin/jbmtraj_simp-5.1.cgi
I'd zero in at 200 yards. Just makes it easier.
what are your average/expected shot distances?
Originally Posted by BradArnett
what are your average/expected shot distances?



400 to 500 yards I suppose.

Steel and rocks out to 1000.

I have always just used a duplex.....but would like to venture into the world of fancy scopes.
He doesn't have a mil reticle. He has a ballistic reticle with mil marks on the horizontal wire and top vertical- i.e. Useless.



Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by BradArnett
what are your average/expected shot distances?



400 to 500 yards I suppose.

Steel and rocks out to 1000.

I have always just used a duplex.....but would like to venture into the world of fancy scopes.



Figure out what your drops are and compare that to the reticle subtensions and see if a 100 or 200 yard zero fits better.
What Formidilosus said is spot on.

How you sight in really depends on what load you are using, but with a cartridge like 264 WinMag, you should probably be sighting in to be dead on at 200 yards or further.

The holdover hashmarks in your reticle are 0.44, 1.04, 1.77, 2.69 and 3.82 mrad down from the zero. If yo are shooting something along the lines of a 129gr SST at around 3200fps, a zero somewhere between 200 and 250 yards depending on your altitude will keep the hashes pretty close to 300, 400, 500, 600 and 750 yards. If you are shooting somewhere with known distance targets, that should be fairly helpful.

ILya
I believe you will find that an MTAC 4x14 DOES have a mil reticle.....with hash marks on half mils


you fellas are maybe thinking of the older TAC 30 model that had a so called ballistic mildot with holdover type hash marks on the bottom vertical
Thats what I understood too. Just looked up the Ballistic Milling reticle on their website.

Says .5 and 1 mill hash marks.

Greek to me as of right now but I will go out and sight it in at 200 and see what happens.

Going to use the 140 match king first at 2950 to see how accurate the rifle is. Its a great load in my Sendero.

Then possibly going to look for a good coyote bullet.
for 'yotes I wouldnt sight any further than 200 yds , otherwise the midrange trajectory gets to be a bit much , for deer and such I sight my 264 for 300 , with 120 bts @ 3400

you use a smart phone ?.....you can download Strelock for free , enter your data , and dial in a yotes address...(grin)
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Thats what I understood too. Just looked up the Ballistic Milling reticle on their website.

Says .5 and 1 mill hash marks.

Greek to me as of right now but I will go out and sight it in at 200 and see what happens.

Going to use the 140 match king first at 2950 to see how accurate the rifle is. Its a great load in my Sendero.

Then possibly going to look for a good coyote bullet.




The lower vertical line- the one you aim with at distance- on the BALLISTIC Milling Reticle is BDC, not mil based.
think the MTAC 4x14 had the G2B Mil-Dot https://www.burrisoptics.com/reticles/g2b-mil-dot
Okay, so I guess the rest of the scope is mil based? Just not the bottom?

All I have to do is figure out which line to use at a certain distance, right?
use one of the online ballistic calculators to figure your come ups in mils , like this for instance


https://www.hornady.com/team-hornady/ballistic-calculators/#!/standard



that will get you in the ballpark , do some shooting to verify the results
Streloc is the easy button for this. Type in accurate data and you'll know what the distances are on the reticle alone. Obviously you have to field verify. It will give your wind data as well.
First, we have to know which exact reticle you have in the scope. It has been produced with mil hash dots/marks, and as a holdover-on-the-bottom-wire type.
Jim, can you post a picture of the reticle?
https://www.burrisoptics.com/reticles/ballistic-milling-reticle

If that is the reticle, the dimensions I posted above are accurate.

ILya
Jim, If you search Burris Optics and go to their Ballistic Tool page and continue to Reticle Analysis, you can load their program with a 100yd zero and try it again with a different zero to compare.

I like the Strelock app but Burris will get you started. Their program expects you to be using factory ammo.
What's the purpose of the mil marks in the vertical above center? Ranging purposes only? That's one stupid reticle. Fashion before function....
Originally Posted by jackmountain
What's the purpose of the mil marks in the vertical above center? Ranging purposes only? That's one stupid reticle. Fashion before function....



It sells scopes to people that do not understand what they are doing.
Originally Posted by jackmountain
What's the purpose of the mil marks in the vertical above center? Ranging purposes only? That's one stupid reticle. Fashion before function....


Ranging, measuring POI/POA deviations, and hold-unders come immediately to mind. Not that I advocate it, but it is common for someone to adjust the turrets to somewhere mid range of their target array, then hold under a calculated amount for closer targets, and over for further out targets. I see that done all the time in PRS when multiple target distances are within a few hundred yards of each other. I see where some hunters may find that method useful for hunting over a field?
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