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Posted By: bhoges Tract Toric 3-15x42 Review - 02/17/18
Tract Toric 3-15x42 BDC Review

Sorry for not getting this out sooner but we had a few bad weekends of weather and I couldn't get out to shoot. Over the past few weeks I’ve made 3 range trips. The furthest distance was 200 yards for now. My other range is 700 yards but I need all the snow to be gone first. I have to say I’ve been extremely pleased with how my new rifle shoots and how well the Tract scope has performed.

The most important thing needed for testing a scope is a solid platform. The rifle I used was chambered in 223 Rem and it’s a tac driver. So far no matter what ammunition and loads I’ve tried this rifle eats it up with sub 1/2 MOA groups. Kampfeld Customs did some excellent work. I started with a trued Remington 700 action and PTG bolt. My parts list included: Brux barrel, HS stock, Calvin Elite trigger, Leupold one piece base, Burris Signature rings and a Holland recoil lug. Once I got the action back I bedded the stock and added some fancy paint. (pretty guns always shoot better) For the assembly process I degrease all my screws first. Blue loc tite and a torque wrench is a must as well. I like to eliminate all issues within the rifle so I know it’s one variable taken out of the equation.

My next step was load development. Since this rifle will be used for small game hunting and some field rifle competitions I wanted 2 loads. For hunting, 40 gr. Nosler ballistic tips and for target use, 52 SMK were utilizied. For brass the obvious choice was Lapua and powder I have a ton of Win 748. My concern is always accuracy over speed. I don't know if many of you guys have tried a Magneto Speed chrono but it’s a game changer. Fast setup and zero errors. I’m ready to take my Chrony out and put it out of it’s misery for good. I’m getting an average of 3175 fps with the 40 gr. heads and 2958 fps with the 52 gr. heads. Consistant loads with very low standard deviation are important once you get out to longer distances. The only way you’ll know is if you chromo your loads. (19 inch barrel used) I’ll use this later on for drop charts. You'll see in the pictures my groups ranged from 1/2”-1/4” at 100 yards. Even my 10 shot group was insanely small. Needless to say I love this rifle. The weather was in my favor, the days I went to the range the wind was almost non existant.

I’m not getting into comparing the glass in the scope to others. It’s too subjective and honestly the glass is so good there’s nothing to complain about. Even at 15x I can clearly see bullet holes at 200 yards in the white. All I’m going to say is the glass is extremely clear, very bright in low light conditions, and has very true colors. Aesthetically speaking I love the grey finish. It’s a nice break from the black scopes and I’m a huge fan of Cerakote Sniper Grey. Overall I was very impressed with the look and feel of the scope. Nice positive turrets, smooth parallax and power rings. I thought the way the turrets re-zero was a cool feature. No need for that annoying little allen key like most scopes. Just unscrew the top of the turret cap, remove the turret and line it back up with the correct mark. The parallax locks in place which is a nice feature as well. It has the perfect amount of tension so even if you don't lock it in place it’s not going to move.

Now for my testing. I conducted a series of box tests and tall tracking tests. The targets I used were from Bench to Box Precision. They allow you to run a scope up to 25 MOA. Once my zero was established I did a few box tests from 5 to 10 MOA. For the tall target tracking test I took one shot at each spot 5 MOA apart and ran the scope up to 25 MOA. This was repeated and every group had shots that touched. The tracking worked flawlessly. With a 100 yard zero the scope still has 47.5 MOA travel left. In all 3 trips I never had to re-adjust my initial zero. As far as a drop test, all I’m willing to do is drop the rifle butt on a ground from a little over a foot on the concrete. I did several of these after my zero and even between shots. No point of impact changes were noticed. Sorry, I care about my equipment too much to throw it. This isn't a $7000 sniper setup, take it for what it is. Sure my Nightforce scopes could probably handle a test like that but they cost 3-4x the amount of a Tract. Once I get to my other club I plan on testing on their ballistic program. I’m thinking this rifle will do pretty well out to 500 yards even with the light bullets.

Overall I’m very pleased with this scope. I believe it’s an excellent scope for hunting and target work. I really can’t complain about anything. If I have to say something maybe I wish it came with caps. But then again I understand they are keeping the cost down. I did a fair test and I hope guys are pleased. I’m sure somebody will bitch I didn't do this or that. It’s an honest test and Tract passed. What I might lack in writing and my keyboard skills I make up in shooting skills. I’m a full time firearms examiner and shoot everyday at work. Pretty much go out every weekend as well to either compete or shoot for fun. Over the past few years the optics market has changed drastically. Who would have thought 2 guys from Nikon would start a direct marketing company up selling scopes? Like any company they will have growing pains and startup might be a little slow. I suggest you give them a try for yourself. You have nothing to loose with their policy. Too many guys love to bash products they have never tried personally. I’m guilty of it myself at times. I’ve tested some scopes that I had no faith in due to the name brand and cost. I was really surprised how well they worked. This isn't Tract. Tract scopes are made to very high standards in the same factory several others high end scopes are made in. If you have some ways I could improve my testing let me know. Im always willing to learn I don't know it all.

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Posted By: bhoges Re: Tract Toric 3-15x42 Review - 02/17/18
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My 3-15x42 Toric has performed very well too sitting on my son's Tikka 260. Very repeatable, no unwanted shifts, and glass is stupid good.

Nice review, and nice shooting. Thanks for taking the time to post it.
The only thing my 2-10x42 Toric has failed on was a test that really shouldn't have been done. Going to keep dialing/testing through the spring. The glass is really, really good.
I'm not sure if I am more impressed with your review or your shooting. Thanks for the feedback, looks like the Toric is a solid option
Posted By: bhoges Re: Tract Toric 3-15x42 Review - 02/17/18


Originally Posted by TxHunter80
I'm not sure if I am more impressed with your review or your shooting. Thanks for the feedback, looks like the Toric is a solid option



Thanks most groups were shot prone off a bipod. This will be my new goto rifle. I can't wait to go hunting in May. Lots of dead chucks this year.
Thanks for the review. After playing with their 8x42 binos (which were super impressive), I really wasn’t to see Tract succeed. If they could add some illumination in a hunting reticle, I’d give it a go. Hope they’re listening.
Originally Posted by elkaddict
Thanks for the review. After playing with their 8x42 binos (which were super impressive), I really wasn’t to see Tract succeed. If they could add some illumination in a hunting reticle, I’d give it a go. Hope they’re listening.


The model below is illuminated. It's more scope than I need for my uses but it might be an option for you:

https://www.tractoptics.com/products/riflescopes/toric-uhd-30mm-4-20x50-ffp-moa
I’d like a true hunting reticle that will work in low light at low power without illumination in case the battery dies (I know my luck). Yes, I know I’m being picky.
I understand that completely. I used a NF NSX with illuminated reticle for a number of evening hunts this season and it the illumination is excellent for last light...but if the battery goes the IHR will be worthless at last light. If NF brought the heavy outer bars in the same length as the hollow bars go it would be about perfect and work well enough for bracketing at low light.

I did use Tract's T-plex in the last couple of minutes on a rainy/overcast day to take a buck and it worked great. Reticle thickness is one of the biggest disconnects between tactical/dialing scopes and hunting scopes. The fine reticles are great for precision but can get lost so easily in low light or thick/broken backgrounds.

NF's IHR...if only the solid outer bars came in the same distance as the hollow bars:

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If you can't do it with this in low light the only thing that would help is a flashlight.

Of course people can't like not being able to shoot .123" groups at 99 meters from a concrete bench with the reticle and God knows a 6x sucks for shooting past 147 meters.


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I picked up a Toric 2-10x42 on my 30-06. I have not tested it anywhere near the amount you have. However, the small amount of adjustments I have made so far were really precise. Optical quality is outstanding and am very pleased overall. I plan to shoot more this spring and will perform the real test with it this fall when season comes in.
JCM, I don’t need a bunch windage or elevation marks lit up. For light that low, if distance was so far or wind howling to the point of needing marks, I’d simply pass the shot. I would however like the benefit of a small lit dot. Perhaps my needs are too narrow of a market for a new outfit. Yes, I know Trijicon may be an option. I’ve just never been blown away by the quality of their glass.
What scope/reticle is that, Steelhead?
Originally Posted by JayJunem
What scope/reticle is that, Steelhead?



Meopta Meopro 6x42, German #1
Been using it for 4 years. I'm not a late evening hunter, except when I am. When I am, it's the scope, reticle that I use.
Posted By: barm Re: Tract Toric 3-15x42 Review - 02/17/18
Thanks for the review. I have a question concerning your Magneto Speed chrono. Do you notice any change in point of impact in your groups when using it?
Posted By: bhoges Re: Tract Toric 3-15x42 Review - 02/17/18
Originally Posted by barm
Thanks for the review. I have a question concerning your Magneto Speed chrono. Do you notice any change in point of impact in your groups when using it?


This time I didn't notice a difference but Im sure there must be I just it all depends on the rifle.
Posted By: prm Re: Tract Toric 3-15x42 Review - 02/18/18
My concern with some new companies is I don’t see the level of engineering and testing. Are they using existing designs and just having them produced by a common manufacturer? Are they doing the behind the scenes work?

I do like the results you demonstrated though.
Posted By: bhoges Re: Tract Toric 3-15x42 Review - 02/18/18
Originally Posted by prm
My concern with some new companies is I don’t see the level of engineering and testing. Are they using existing designs and just having them produced by a common manufacturer? Are they doing the behind the scenes work?

I do like the results you demonstrated though.



You have to realize most scopes are all made in the same factories. You spec out what you want and they build it. Tract is made in Japan with Schott glass your not getting much better then that. Even Nightforce doesn't make their own scopes.
Thanks. I can see how that would be good in low light or fast, offhand shooting.


Apologies to the OP. Didn't mean to sidetrack your thread. Good write up btw. Looks like the Tract has decent adjustments that work like they're supposed to.
Posted By: prm Re: Tract Toric 3-15x42 Review - 02/18/18
I realize they are manufactured in a common facility. But a company such as Tract has to ‘spec’ something. What engineering is behind what is spec’d? Maybe they have a solid engineering and testing protocol, I just don’t know.

Do they have unique designs that will maintain zero for hundreds of shots or maintain adjustment repeatability? I’m not saying they don’t have a solid design, just that I don’t know what goes into their design.
Posted By: jwp475 Re: Tract Toric 3-15x42 Review - 02/18/18
Originally Posted by prm
I realize they are manufactured in a common facility. But a company such as Tract has to ‘spec’ something. What engineering is behind what is spec’d? Maybe they have a solid engineering and testing protocol, I just don’t know.

Do they have unique designs that will maintain zero for hundreds of shots or maintain adjustment repeatability? I’m not saying they don’t have a solid design, just that I don’t know what goes into their design.


Tell me the engineering specs of other scopes that you know.
Posted By: prm Re: Tract Toric 3-15x42 Review - 02/18/18
You’re missing my point, or I’m not communicating well. I’m not bashing Tract, just asking a question. Who designs their scopes? What level of engineering goes into the design? Just a question, not an accusation.
Posted By: jwp475 Re: Tract Toric 3-15x42 Review - 02/18/18
Originally Posted by prm
You’re missing my point, or I’m not communicating well. I’m not bashing Tract, just asking a question. Who designs their scopes? What level of engineering goes into the design? Just a question, not an accusation.


I’m asking you what do you know about the design and engineering of any other scopes.
Posted By: prm Re: Tract Toric 3-15x42 Review - 02/18/18
Who cares. I’m a consumer, not a scope engineer. I just want to have some faith in the design before making a decision to purchase. Some companies have engineering departments and do significant testing to designs. Companies that have been around awhile have a track record. For a new company, what do you base a decision to purchase on? If I knew their design went through some rigorous testing I’d feel better about it. I’ve wondered the same about Athlon, Maven, Tract, etc. Do they have their own full blown design, engineering and testing facilities? Just a question...

https://www.zeiss.com/sports-optics/en_us/company/innovation---tradition.html#innovation

http://www.nightforceoptics.com/technology

http://www.meoptasportsoptics.com/us/about-meopta-1.html
Originally Posted by prm
Who cares. I’m a consumer, not a scope engineer. I just want to have some faith in the design before making a decision to purchase. Some companies have engineering departments and do significant testing to designs. Companies that have been around awhile have a track record. For a new company, what do you base a decision to purchase on? If I knew their design went through some rigorous testing I’d feel better about it.



Google Tract Optics and call them. I think the owner's names are John and Jon, and you'll likely get one of them on the phone. Maybe talking to one of them can satisfy you.
Posted By: OSU_Sig Re: Tract Toric 3-15x42 Review - 02/18/18
I have to say, the only thing I see better than your review is your shooting. Thanks for posting. I have a Toric 3-15 but have not tested it like you have.
Posted By: bhoges Re: Tract Toric 3-15x42 Review - 02/18/18
Originally Posted by OSU_Sig
I have to say, the only thing I see better than your review is your shooting. Thanks for posting. I have a Toric 3-15 but have not tested it like you have.


Thanks I guess all my practice pays off. Im a firearms examiner during the week and I shoot almost every weekend outdoors.
Nice job. Thanks. My Tract is a mere Tekoa, but I'm very happy with it so far, especially considering it only cost $400 on sale. Even without the ED glass, the view is impressive.

As to your rifle, how do you think the route you took with an extensively altered 700 compares price and performance-wise with using a custom like a Stiller?
Posted By: bhoges Re: Tract Toric 3-15x42 Review - 02/18/18
Originally Posted by Pappy348
Nice job. Thanks. My Tract is a mere Tekoa, but I'm very happy with it so far, especially considering it only cost $400 on sale. Even without the ED glass, the view is impressive.

As to your rifle, how do you think the route you took with an extensively altered 700 compares price and performance-wise with using a custom like a Stiller?


The whole action only cost $500 the way it was so it wasn't a bad deal. Normally my buddy builds my guns no charge. Yes, doing all that work you might as well buy a custom action. I had most of the components sitting around myself. He is moving his shop so I had Carl do it this time. I have a few customs like Nesika and Bat and I have to say the Remingtons work just as well.
Originally Posted by JGRaider
Originally Posted by prm
Who cares. I’m a consumer, not a scope engineer. I just want to have some faith in the design before making a decision to purchase. Some companies have engineering departments and do significant testing to designs. Companies that have been around awhile have a track record. For a new company, what do you base a decision to purchase on? If I knew their design went through some rigorous testing I’d feel better about it.



Google Tract Optics and call them. I think the owner's names are John and Jon, and you'll likely get one of them on the phone. Maybe talking to one of them can satisfy you.


You can read a bit here and then give them a call with your specific questions.

https://www.tractoptics.com/about
Posted By: jwp475 Re: Tract Toric 3-15x42 Review - 02/18/18
Originally Posted by prm
Who cares. I’m a consumer, not a scope engineer. I just want to have some faith in the design before making a decision to purchase. Some companies have engineering departments and do significant testing to designs. Companies that have been around awhile have a track record. For a new company, what do you base a decision to purchase on? If I knew their design went through some rigorous testing I’d feel better about it. I’ve wondered the same about Athlon, Maven, Tract, etc. Do they have their own full blown design, engineering and testing facilities? Just a question...

https://www.zeiss.com/sports-optics/en_us/company/innovation---tradition.html#innovation

http://www.nightforceoptics.com/technology

http://www.meoptasportsoptics.com/us/about-meopta-1.html


I’d feel fairly confident based on reviews and word of mouth.
It's what you end up with that counts, and you've ended up with a stunner.
Originally Posted by bhoges
Originally Posted by OSU_Sig
I have to say, the only thing I see better than your review is your shooting. Thanks for posting. I have a Toric 3-15 but have not tested it like you have.


Thanks I guess all my practice pays off. Im a firearms examiner during the week and I shoot almost every weekend outdoors.
What's a firearms examiner ?
Posted By: Savuti Re: Tract Toric 3-15x42 Review - 02/18/18
The ballistic version of a medical examiner.
Posted By: bhoges Re: Tract Toric 3-15x42 Review - 02/18/18
In the NYPD we have a ballistics lab for all the gun that come in from crimes ect. My job is to test the firearms and ammunition and to ID them. Testify in court on my findings.
Originally Posted by bhoges
In the NYPD we have a ballistics lab for all the gun that come in from crimes ect. My job is to test the firearms and ammunition and to ID them. Testify in court on my findings.


So you’re a Gunecologist?
Nice, comprehensive review. Even better shooting. I think you could out shoot me if you used a paper-towel roll and a couple of crossed strings. Just WOW.
Posted By: bhoges Re: Tract Toric 3-15x42 Review - 06/15/18
Worst part is I haven't killed a chuck yet. My buddy is too busy to hunt!!! We always get out when its 100 and humid.
Posted By: nuguy Re: Tract Toric 3-15x42 Review - 06/15/18
I’m curious about the glass quality. How does it compare optically to say a Swarovski Z3?
Posted By: bhoges Re: Tract Toric 3-15x42 Review - 06/15/18
I have an older Swarovski 3-18 on my 20 Vartarg. Ill have to put them side by side and let you know. The glass is very clear, true colors , and no chromatic aberration. My buddy loves Swarovski and thats pretty much all he hunts with. In the last few months he was purchased a few Tracts and is very pleased. They are too different animals and the Swarovski is hands down the top dog. No way would I say they are identical.
Posted By: NZSika Re: Tract Toric 3-15x42 Review - 06/15/18
I'm becoming repetitive on this, but side by side for definition, brightness and low light my 3-15 Toric is the same as or slightly superior to my Zeiss HD5. My Sightron 3-16 STAC slightly edges them both. All are reliable.
Posted By: bhoges Re: Tract Toric 3-15x42 Review - 06/15/18
I have a Zeiss 5-25x50 on my Ruger #1 in 6PPC. I have to say I like the glass but I'm not a fan of their plastic turret cap covers or the turrets themselves. Its a $1000 scope with way too many plastic parts. The turrets feel cheap and a poorly marked.
nuguy,

In my own optical tests of Swarovski Z3's and a 3-15x42 Tract Toric, done at night on an optical chart of my own design, the Tract beat the Z3's by a significant margin.

That said, there are differences in the optics of various Swarovski scopes. The Z3's have above-average optics but don't match the optics of Z5's.
I really like the couple of 2-10 and 3-15 Torics I have. Not many complaints. Like many new scopes the ocular is large enough that with low rings you can get interference with the bolt handle on some rifles. Also, I'm not much of a fan of the grey color, especially on a blue rifle, but at least they track and have good glass and eye relief with reasonable size.
Originally Posted by elkaddict
I’d like a true hunting reticle that will work in low light at low power without illumination in case the battery dies (I know my luck). Yes, I know I’m being picky.


This! If your 3-15 had something like the G2H reticle FFP and Illumination I'd buy it in a second. I know it would be more expensive, but the weight of the 4-20 is a struggling point for me.
A 3-15X50 G2H or similar in FFP Illuminated for $875. Perfect for me anyways.
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