I have seen these on TV, but don't have any specifics. The Nikon website isn't any help either. Does anyone have any experience with these? Cost, range, glass quality, etc? Thanks.

Thanks for the feedback.

Please see our recent post on the Nikon Laserforce describing it and announcing the $200.00 instant rebate bring in below $1000.00

As the supporting vendor here it would be my pleasure to discuss these with you. Great unit and nothing at this price level is as good

I have spent some time with the LaserForce rangefinding bino's and they have worked great. A buddy used a pair hard all last season while coyote hunting over 60 days in 6 states in all types of weather. He has youtube video using them, Alpha Dog Down. He had nothing but praise for them and hated having to return them to Nikon. I have referred a number of folks to CameraLandny and never heard anything but positives. Rest assured Doug will take good care of you if you decide to go forward with the LaserForce purchase.

Below is a review that might help you make up your mind.

https://www.wideopenspaces.com/nikon-laserforce-10x42-rangefinder-binocular-review/

Thank you

The instant rebate of $200.00 runs through this Wednesday so don't miss out on this great savings

I’ve had two pair for testing for 7-8 months, as well as two Swarovski EL Ranges, Leica’s, Vortex, Bushnell Fusions, and a couple of ones that aren’t offered in the US.


If I had to pay my own money.... I would buy the Nikons. The rangefinder is as good as the best offering very quick returns on deer size animals to 900-1,100 yards in most conditions and out to 1,700-1,900 on trees. The rangefinder works in cold weather which is something more rangefinders have a problem with than people realize, and they do well in rain and snow. Glass clarity and contrast is quite good, and right in line with “good” $800-$1,000 binos. Color rendition is solid, though isn’t what the Alpha’s are. Combine all that with Nikon saying they have an Unconditional Lifetime Warrenty even on the electronics, and they’re hard to beat.


The warrenty is pretty important to me, because I’ve had at least one of each of the Alpha bino rangefinders have a problem within the first year. A two year warrenty on the electronics is a no go for me.

The gal at Nikon USA told me the warranty is 2 yrs on electronics. I hope you're right and she's wrong, because those Nikon's are very nice.

https://www.nikonsportoptics.com/en/nikon-products//binoculars/laserforce-10x42.html


LIFETIME REPAIR/REPLACEMENT
Excludes lost or stolen products and intentionally caused damage, and also excludes Nikon Rangefinders, Reflex Sights, Red Dot Sights, StabilEyes Binoculars & Specialty Optics.

When we’re you told this?

Doug,
Can you please clarify the warranty issue that JG and Formidilosus are discussing. Its kind of a deal breaker for a lot of us.
Thx, R

About 3 weeks ago.

Thank you.


This is annoying to me. I worked through two reps and both assured us multiple times that the electronics were covered. Both stated that the Laserforce was the only rangefinder so covered. As with other companies, I didn’t necessarily have faith that they would actually do it, but....


Until we can get confirmation either way, I would say caveat emptor.

This is exactly what has aggravated me with Nikon sport optics. They have several really nice products......the EDG (doesn't get much if any better) binocs, the new Monarch HG is fantastic, and as mentioned I was very impressed with the Laserforce. It seems to depend on who you talk to. I was questioning a knowledgeable guy that posts here about Nikon's warranty on the HG's and was told they are lifetime transferable. When you go to the website and pull up the HG warranty it says otherwise. I have no clue why this can be so hard to communicate to the buying public. It's pretty safe to say that Nikon's marketing isn't exactly on it's game.

Vortex is the only company I know of that does cover electronics. With that said, I am not a huge fan of their LRF Bino. The Ranger series LRF are pretty good, and carry the full lifetime warranty.

How 'bout it Doug.....what does the warranty card say?

I’m back in the store in the morning and I’ll confirm. I think it’s lifetime on everything but the electronics and 2 years on that but I will confirm

I just got off the phone with Angelo at Nikon and he confirmed it is a Lifetime Warranty

Electronics and all? Great news.

Yes sir. I even drilled him on the electronics as nobody else really covers the electronics for more then a couple/few years and he confirmed.

The $200.00 instant rebate on the Nikon 10x42 Laserforce bringing it to only $999.99 ends Wednesday so don't miss out

That's good news - but why do all the warranty cards on the Nikon website indicate that rangefinders or binoculars with electronics have a limited warranty? I'd very much like to see something officially published from Nikon regarding the warranty, as "Angelo said it had a lifetime warranty" isn't going to cut it I buy a set and in three years the rangefinder dies and they refuse to cover the warranty. Especially when everything they have published on their site indicates a limited warranty.

Because they haven’t updated the cards. There are official Nikon videos that state they whole thing has a lifetime warrenty.

The two I got came with a note stating that the whole thing was covered under the No Fault Warrenty.

Again, great news. Formid, by any chance in your bino/rf testing have you used the Meopta MeoRange, or the same one rebadged as a Leupold unit? I thought they were coming with it last year but didn't, and have seen Shockey hunting the world with it hanging around his neck. Almost wished I'd waited in buying the demo Geovid and bought this Nikon instead.

Excellent info, good that Nikon includes a published piece of material.

Nikon’s webpage for the Laserforce binocular has the lifetime warranty at the bottom, but specifically excludes rangefinders. Their written warranty seems quite clear and unambiguous.

https://www.nikonsportoptics.com/en/nikon-products//binoculars/laserforce-10x42.html

Which is why I posted what I posted closer to the top of the page.

Yes you did JGR, sorry thought you were quoting the general warranty page. Did not realize you linked the product page.

I’ll wait to see a change in writing, but this price point is encouraging if the LRF is durable.

My Swaro LRF is ten years ago and still works as well as day one. My Sig 2000 LRF died on the third outing. Two pair of Leica LRF binos both failed in the first 30 days. A Sig 2200 will be first choice this season with the Swaro as backup.

Most seem to focus on ranging distance, but durability and reliable function in bright overhead sun on hot humid days matters most to me.

I truly hope this is a reliable and durable product.

They are FANTASTIC. Clarity, contrast, color rendition, and brightness are top notch. About half of the people who have used them have chosen them over the Swarovski and Leica BRF’s. The rangefinder is a solid 1,300-1,400m unit, and ranges well.












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UNTIL it gets cold. The problem is in the cold (sub 30 degree) the rangefinder takes a dive. Like all but unusable past 200-300m. The elk above could only be ranged maybe once or twice out of 20-30 tries. The Nikons and Swaros had no issue.


Up until the cold weather testing a few weeks ago, I would have said they are the BRF to beat. If they get the cold weather issue taken care of- they still will be.

I had that problem a couple of days ago with my Leica Geovid 2200 that I got from Doug. Ranges fantastic in 30+ degree weather, but struggles at beyond 250 meters when the temp gets below freezing. Not too happy about that, as it doesn't do me much good as a hunter to have a BRF that doesn't work in the weather we get during hunting season. The RF in my Bushnell Fusion worked WAY better in cold weather. I'll likely be contacting Doug to see if this is something the warranty should address.

They’ll do something about it, but that isn’t uncommon with quite a few, especially Leica.

Thanks for the info Form and Jordan. Doesn't get too cold here but that still sucks.

So is a guy better to go for the Leica, Nikon, or wait on the meopta?

No prob jeffbird. You've sure had some tough luck with bino/rf's haven't you? What are you using now? If my Leica is going to die, I wish it would do so pronto, as in now.

I'd like to try the Nikon's. I'm colorblind and struggled seeing the display in the Leica Geovids (love Leica glass) against a green/brown background, so eventually settled on the Bushnell Fusion Miles. They have the brightest and largest display I've found, which is a drawback for some, but a necessity for me. The glass is nothing to brag about, but the LRF is fantastic and I haven't found a scenario where I couldn't see the display and they've worked from sea level to 8k feet and from below freezing to well over 100 degrees.

I bought a Laserforce from Doug this past summer. I carried them on a 10 day safari in Africa- they were my only glass that trip. We ended up doing some culling and the ranging was nice. I have two buddies who have the Leicas. The glass may be better but the rangefinding aspect is not as good.


.I have compared them with my Swarovskis and with the Leicas. I think they are the best rangefinder you can buy for less that $10K.
The glass is very good but not as good as the Swaro ELs or similar Alpha glass. I have used them extensively this year guiding deer hunts. Temperatures have not gotten much lower than 20's but they still worked to over 2200 yards even in 27-28*.

I am very pleased with them.

I am trying the Sig 2200 at the moment, which Sig sent me to replace the unit that died. So far it has worked and done everything needed. I still take the Swaro as a backup.

How does the glass on the Laserforce compare to say... Meopta Meostar 10x42s? Just wondering what folks mean by "good".

I would say it is between the Meopro and the MeoStar

Thanks, Doug! I may have to try a pair of the Nikons.

The $200.00 instant rebate ends tomorrow so if you do want to today's the day. I'm in all day (of course) so just give a holler

Quick question on the Nikons. Does the range data come through the right or left barrel of the unit?

It is in the right side

Are there any BRF’s that range through the left tube for us one-eyed old geezers?

I doubt it, majority of the population is right eye dominant.

I would like to see something like this in an 8x32 size

As would we all...

My geovid hd b binoculars are about 3 years old or so. I hunt all fall and winter in Montana s cold temps. My rangefinder has always remained strong, and I have had zero issues. I wonder what the difference between these two units is? Mine have been rock solid.

My HD-B2200's did awesome except for the one day it turned cold...Got down to about 10 degrees one morning and RF wouldn't work at all....I thought something had gone out...my mid day it had warmed up to high 30's and it was working fine again.

Maybe Doug could help us out?

I have asked this for many years and I have been told (and BTW, it's true). 85% or so of rangefinder binoculars sold are 10x units. 15x56's then 8x42's make up the balance. 8x42's account for about 8% of all sold. Nikon only offers the Laserforce in 10x42 as building an 8x doesn't pay. The 8x32 is a much handier size, however, the projected sales does not offset the cost of design so it will most likely never happen

Doug
Thanks for the reply, maybe someday one of the optics companies will see a need to build us hunters what we want

That’s the thing- “hunters” don’t want that. The manufacturers in most cases DO make what “hunters” want. If someone made an 8x32mm rangefinding binocular..... they’d sell all of about 8.


Whether or not hunters have any idea of what they are talking about, is another matter.

One of the things I like about the new laser force is the ability to use the center thread for a tripod adapter...quality 10x’s on a tripod will change the way you glass.