Would you buy one ? looking for a scope 3x 14 for a 257 weatherby! MM

May be 3x12>>MM>> your thinking on a scope for a 257 >>>27 inch custom ?

No. Some of their scopes are excellent.

Name a Few? and why?

Banner!!!<<<<4-12x>>>>excellent choice for -----weather/be---- 257!!!!

Some are built to a price, but no they are not garbage.

It seems in canuck land bush scopes seem to be the MEOW>>Reliable Guns Vancouver BC>>has a [bleep] load of them >> and at a good price >>but I think I will look for the old scopes >on the net like lightseeker , vx3, and so on! I have no faith on the new scopes!>.Am I wrong?

but no they are not garbage.>Name a few and WHY?

The best ones come in a blister pack

The glass is snatch, ain't no bull!

Bushnell, Tasco and Simmons are the only scopes that will ever touch my fine firearms.

Dammit... you owe me a keyboard.

IMHO... bookmark this page and buy a scope from Doug...

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/ubb/userposts/id/8063

He will steer you right at any price point.

I recently bought several Bushnell A17 3.5-10x36 AOs from CDNN to put on some Marlins and Savages in 17HM2, 17HMR, .22LR, and .22MAG. They aren't perfect, but for $50 per unit they do the job nearly as well as the Weaver V16s and they do it for less than 1/4 of the average retail price of a V16.

EDIT: The A17s that I have were made in Korea.

The Bushnell Elite series scopes, especially the older ones like the 4200, are excellent scopes.

are bushnell scopes garbage? yeah some of them. but others are some of my favorites. simple rule of them if its a made in japan bushnell scope its a great scope. These are usually the elite series or, the tactical series now days. I will not buy a non japan made bushnell.

Never had a problem with the ones that I own.

Some of the older Bushnells are very good. For example, the Scopechief series were basically the same as they were when they were a B&L branded product. B&L bought Bushnell in 1971 and allowed it to run as an IOC, Independent Operating Company, under the B&L umbrella. In 1973 B&L decided to get out of the sporting goods market, so they licensed the rights to manufacture their lines of rifle scopes to Bushnell. In 2004 the licensing agreement ended and B&L reentered the sporting goods market with a new line of B&L branded rifle scopes.

I like the old Scopechief and Banner series scopes and think that the Scopechiefs were comparable to the Leupolds of their day. I have low magnification Scopechiefs and Banner variables, mostly 1.5-4.5x20s, on several Marlin 336s, Mossberg 472/479, and Savage 170s.

Another Bushnell scope that I have found useful is the Banner 4x20 .22 scope. It is a smaller scope that fits proportionally on the small receivers of most rimfire rifles. I particularly like this scope on Savage 24 combination guns, as they don't overwhelm them, and even more so on those with the smaller diameter .410 barrel. This is Bushnell Model 71-4220-0.

I recently bought a .22 mag that came with a Bushnell Sportview. It compares favorably with the Tasco Pronghorn that came on a different rifle I bought.

I expect both to perform superbly in the junk drawer.

Go spend $320 and buy a Leupold VX-3i off Ebay and be happy. I just bought four of em. They're light, bright, and clear. And they come with a lifetime warranty. You telling me you want to spend $1,000+ for a rifle and put a $50 Scope on it?

The Elite Tacticals are excellent in all regards.

John

Not after the $1K mark

I'll look at old(er) scopes from time to time. And I'm not surprized to find they have a problem. Getting older scopes serviced is another problem. It's best to stick to companies that are still in business and offer offer a warranty 'and' customer service, like Leuopold and Sightron.
As to having no faith in 'new' scopes, why would you think that ? Technology marches on ! And optics have benefited greatly. In most things , particularly optics, you get what you pay for. Over the last s several years I've acquired a new Sightron Big Sky and a new Weaver Super Slam. They're pretty nice I think. I bought a low power variable Weaver 'Classic' (Japan), discontinued , here on the 'fire' a year or so ago I am pleased w/.
The problem w/ companies like Weaver and Bushnell is that they have changed hands so many times, they have lost any sense of corporate responsibility. Getting a newer scope serviced is a crap shoot, getting an older scope serviced probably can't be done.

My current thinking ; a scope from a reputable company in the $300 - $500 range would serve the average hunter/shooter very well. These days their are more choices than ever. Regularly, 'good' scopes are offered on the 'Fire', in the $200-$300 range. Probably some here now.

Now, as to Bushnells, as has been said, they offer a broad range of quality, and again you get what you pay for.

Back in the eighties, at a gun show, I purchased a Bushnell Banner (Japan),2.5 power, new in the box. Through the years, it's ridden a .22, a 222Rem and a 30/06. For the last many years it's found a home on a Marlin 30/30. It is still clear and tight and still serves as an excellent brush combo. Not bad for $35, NIB out the door.

Putting a Bushnell scope on a Weatherby would be enough to make Roy roll over in his grave.

Only until he checked out how good some are now.




This is an internet myth. I purchased four Swarovski z5 5-25X52 for about $1,500 each. Not one had glass as good as the three Bushnell 6500 4 1/2-30X50's which cost less than a grand.

I have seen some of the cheap ones on other peoples rifles that brand new were shooting groups bigger than the target paper at 25 yards. I was never tempted to try one.

I must have taken a hundred deer with my bushnell scoped ML and slug gun.

I think that comes out to 80 cents per deer for the scope?

Rain. Snow. Drops. Clouds of smoke.

Yep. Total trash.

I've got 3 of their trophy scopes. A 3x9 and a 4x12 ao on two .22 rimfires. A 3x9 on a 223. So far no complaints. Seem like a decent scope for the price. Both 3x9 are mil dot ,nice fine cross hair for small targets and the dots do give you a reference for hold over or wind.

I used the B&L and later Busnell Elite 4200 series on several rifles and they were excellent scopes. I would put them up against my Leupolds for quality of glass and adjustments. Bushnell has discontinued the Elite series and brought out 4 new series of scopes and from I'm hearing the glass and coatings on them are excellent. Haven't had a chance to try one out myself yet but I plan to soon.

https://www.bushnell.com/Products/Binoculars?page=1

Bob

I have an Elite 4200 1.5x6x36 and find it to be a very nice scope. I'd say that the only drawback I see is the eye relief could be better.

Have had this same scope for about 10 years on a 30-06 shooting 200 grain NPT without a problem very good glass also. I still have 3 - 3200's and 2 other 4200's both 3X9-40. What I like most of the Bushnell's is the Rain Guard coating it really works.

If your interested I have a Bushnell 4 1/2 -30 X 50 that I would trade you, for one of the Swarovski's ??

let me know ??
Gene

For the money, the Bushnell Elite 3200 and 4200 scopes were some of the best. I don't know about the current Bushnell Elites, but the older ones were very good scopes.

I have 3200,4200,4500,6500 and regular elites. all of them are great scopes.

I can find them used at gunshows and sometimes buy them very cheap because some guys still think all bushnells are cheap.

The 4200 series are a great scope, the newer 3500 series are nowhere as good

To start with, I don't believe you. Second, I don't keep stuff that does not work like it's suppose to. As soon as I saw the superiority of the Bushnell I sold the Swarovskis and purchased more of the Bushnells.

Oh yeah, welcome to the 'fire. There are some really good folks posting here.

I concur. Have you tried the newer 4500 or 6500 series? Those would be more comparable to the older 4200.

The one thing about Bushnells is that most folks either love them or hate them.

This must be the 200th time you've stated this
and again you're in the minority. Having owned both brands and models there is NO WAY IN HELL and Bushnell compares to a Swaro. You should schedule an appt with an eye doctor.

I would have to say in my opinion for a hunting scope that you plan to dial the Bushnell LRHS is the best scope for the money.
Great glass and will compete with any of them.

I've killed more deer with a $150 Bushnell than most of you high-end Leupold lovers have ever seen...

It's odd that everyone who has compared them in my presence says the same thing I do. In fact one of my friends who HAD a Swarovski z6 5-30x50 brought it to my house to compare. Instantly he said, "I always thought that scope was not very good." He sold it asap.

By the way the vision in my shootin' eye is 20/20. The vision in the other eye is 20/15. So you stick to your prejudice and I'll stick to the facts discovered by those who use optics charts to compare optics.

I heard mounting a Bushnell was like riding a moped with a fat girl. Lots of fun but you just don’t want your friends to see you.... LOL!

If you buy a $39 Bushnell at Walmart you get what you paid for! If you buy a 4200 Elite you get a good decent scope! I believe they are one of the only companies that offer Raingaurd which works.

This company has stayed in business for many years by supplying the demand for $50 scopes and binoculars. How many companies have you seen go out of business and the warranties are now worthless??

I have the LRHS, and was amazed at the amount of eye relief. It's the only scope I've ever mounted that got the comment "Holy smokes that's a lot of eye relief!" the first time I looked through it. The standard there is Leupold, of course. It feels like it has twice the eye relief of any scope over 6x I've ever used, which is saying something with the mag range of this optic.

Optical quality is above the price point.

Am I completely sold on the scope? Not yet. Too new. Out of the gate, the adjustments are just too stiff. I know, I know, everybody wants them stiff. Until you actually use the scope in cold weather with old hands. The parallax is funky -- works, but is out of sync with the dial. It also changes faster per rev near the end of the range of motion.Bottom line, I have to adjust it by eye, and not the dial. Which is not a real big deal, because if your're actually hunting there's time for that during a LR shot. The illuminated reticle works, but I've never shot with it and could care less about it (it just happened to be a feature of the one I got). Night hunting is legal here now, so maybe I'll get to try it.

It does deliver a lot of performance for the $. Optically, twice the scope my Viper was, 4 times the scope my Loopy VX 3 LR was, and better than my friend's Elite 4200 (Dennis says. He's the pickiest optics user in the world). Better than my Minox 5-25, the prior best scope I'd ever owned (optically).

You sound exactly like a guy I know who loves Tasco World Class scopes. He will tell you all day long how much better they are than high end scopes he has used. He'll also tell you about how many buddies he has converted over to Tasco from Leupolds after they see how much better his scope is in low light. Eventually you learn to just tune him out. While his cheap scopes may work for him, they aren't the quality of many of the higher end optics that he thinks are junk just because of the cost. The same guy will also argue all day with you about how his Jennings pistol is better than a "overpriced" Glock. Lol

All of that said, Bushnell scopes range from crap to excellent depending on what you buy. They offer soo many different lines. Everything from $30 package deal scopes to several thousand dollar optics. As long as you go with one of their decent lines they have some good offerings. What's your budget?

Has anyone noticed that "Ranting" posted 5 of the first 8 posts but hasn't replied since........

Don't feed the TROLLS, Please!

Asking for a Bushnell endorsement without Ringman spewing his cataract impaired analysis on Swarovski is like expecting to walk into a pig sty and not see flies. You ought to give those eyes back to the bat that donated them to you...

Fascinating you didn't notice I posted my shootin' eye is 20/20 and the other eye is 20/15. But if "cataract impaired analysis on Swarovski" happened at the same time I compared the Swarovski with Bushnell and Nightforce why did the Swarovski come in third since the same "cataract impaired analysis on Swarovski" looked through the other scopes as well? Why did the "cataract impaired analysis on Swarovski" show the Leupold VX-6 4-24X52 display more vibrant colors than either the Swarovski or the Bushnell? I wanted the Swarovski to win because it is the lightest high magnification scope I could find. Two trips to the repair shop and the last one was down the road.

I’m sure you are a nice guy at Bingo night, but you are out of your league here. Posting about which impaired eye you looked out of has no bearing on your pathetic analysis. Why you continue to make a ridiculous comparison every time Bushnell or Swarovski comes up, only shows how myopic you really are.

You are the only person you have convinced, continuing with your sophomoric studies on optics only proves your lack of experience, not to mention poor vision...

Except the guy who brought his Swarovski z81 and Swarovski z6 over to compare. He right away sold his z6 because it was definitely not in the same league at the Bushnell 6500, much less his other Swarovski.

Buy a Leupold, lifetime warranty.

Looks like the internet bullies are out enjoying life.

O.K. so I was wrong, there are 2 of you that don’t have a clue. I bet it is a riot to watch you parking a car when you can’t tell a parking spot from the drive thru at Wendy’s...

Something my dad would say, "I wonder what got his goat."

Buy a Tract

You, my good sir, are a pot-stirrer of the first order.

So bad eyesight is hereditary...

I had a Bushnell Elite 6500 4.5-30x50, and it was easily one of the best low light scopes I've ever had. I never had them side by side, but I guarantee it would go toe to toe with a Swarovski Z8i 2.3-18x56 or a Zeiss V6 5-30x50, both of which I have had, and stomp on the Leupold VX-6HD 3-18x44 I had. I'd be looking for another if there were better reticle choices.

You dipshyts using them scopes as spotting scopes, binoculars or aiming devices ?

Suppositories to guys like you...

You'd be crippled or dead by now if that weren't a lie. So what you're really trying to say is that your scopes smell alot like your breath ?

you guy talking about bushnells being junk is exactly whats helps me buy the high end bushnells cheap at gunshows. most have never seen a high end bushnell and the put them on there tables after pulling them off of used rifles and I buy them cheap. its nice to pickup a 450.00 scope for 50.00 once in a while.

i'm going to post a 6x24x40 on ebay this week. one just sold a few days ago for 539.50 shipped.i'll put that scope on 24x up against most anything out.

Some are, some aren't


Knowing what's what is important.

-Jake

I’ve been liking the Elite 6500 series for varmint rigs and general use rifles. LRHSi scopes are on a few LR hunting rigs. Nice clarity in both. Solid internal thus far. No complaints. 😎

Prepping for Campfire Optics Forum.


Q:Is the sky blue ?

A: Not when your crosseyed ass looks through something other than what I use, retard!

Maga!


Now, everyone go home and practice and come back tomorrow.

I've had a bushnell on my marlin 120 sluggun for about 35 years. You know how 3 inch slugs kick, never had a problem with it. Does it compare with higher end scopes, hell no, but it takes a licking and keep on ticking.

there is a 6500 tactical on ebay now BIN FOR 649.00 . good price.

Yes

I’d put the 42/45 and 65 series Jap made Bushnell’s against ANYTHING. Not only are they in the same league as far as the optics go they are a helluva lot tougher.

With Bushnell it’s tough to separate the brand from the cheaper offerings...but anybody who doesn’t appreciate their jap made offering is ignorant