Have come to the conclusion that it is the "CrossFit" equivalent of rifle shooting.

CrossFit - is ancestral kinesiology.

Basic Field Position Rifle Shooting - is ancestral marksmanship.


Was taught that way, worked to master it, and have shot and hunted that way ever since.


... so am apparently unevolved.

An anachronism.


No offense.




GR

And those that need crutches to shoot well enough to hunt...






GR

Sadly I think much less of men who can’t shoot a rifle accurately.

I’ve never shot an animal from prone position- plenty of targets & had elk at unknown range in my scope laying prone over a small hill but didn’t shoot. Too much low brush in the way most places I end up shooting. Last year one elk at 90 off hand, another on the run wounded at 200 off a knee then a finisher seated, deer at 225 seated. Nice to build a firm rest shoot off a pack or rock or tree branch but better to not need more than your body to an effective hunting range.

I know, when you start a thread & it doesn't go your way, start another 1, with a different title, about the same thing & see if that works out better !

Oh yeah, & do it in the same forum !!

Crying here.

He wants the same result.

That being, attention.

Looks like it's working.

This thread - was to let you modern wonders off the hook.

Crutches, pictures, hurt feelings and all.

Soar, little ones.




GR

I guess the irony of boasting that you're a throwback on the internet is lost on some.

"throwback"...

Nice.




GR

Useful for dinosaur hunting in the thickets...






GR

Anybody know who this guy is...?






GR

I already told you. Just some old fart who knows noting compared to our resident experts here.

How about this guy.

Know anything about him?



Looks like a competent rifleman as well.




GR

Obviousy he can't hit a thing as he has no bipod or tripod.

I know that guy could be giving you personal lessons and you'd still want to argue with everything he says. You're a fraud, wouldn't take him long to figure it out like everyone here has already done.

The marksman uses all tools available to make the most precise shot as possible, be it a sling, a bipod, tripod, ruck, rock, sandbag, etc. Everything else is ego. Change my mind.

I have done many disciplines including traditional service rifle, which I was competitive at locally. But a man has to know his limitation and has to have good ethics. If I can use tools other than a sling to make sub-minute shots on game at 600, I will. I owe that to the animal. If I choose an sun-optimal method to boost my ego, I am acting unethically.

Sitting (feet out, knees up) as demonstrated by J. O’conner above, with a hasty sling (no loop) has been the most useful field position for me. Add light, folding sticks or a sapling and it’s almost bench rest steady.

Some of the positions noted in the photos above would work really well in a pasture of waist-high blue stem.

Or timber with a bunch of blow-downs. It's not like you could use one of those logs for a rest or anything, that would be gauche.

It looks like you are the one whining. You won't take a hint or advice.. Keep doing you man, but don't expect great success..

Good post from the new guy.

or 4 foot sage and bitter brush. lol


ill take a rifle on back pack on the ground, tree or fence post over kneeling any day.

Prezactly.

Agree.......prone no worky here either..........

Dammit, you shoot him when he stands up!! No wonder. Sheesh.

Ironic, this just popped up on me:

[video:youtube]https://youtube.com/shorts/GvrviN-TVaw?feature=share[/video]


Mr. Spoomer, are you in here?

Thank you.

I e shot more deer sitting on a seat using my supporting elbow on a knee than anything it seems. That and regular offhand when walking.

It never failed to amaze me when a deer would be seen at a distance and the guys I used to hunt with would stand up on their hind legs and start throwing lead. Me, I was looking for a place to sit down. Guess who got the venison.
Best education I ever got was from the Army Reserve shooting team when I used to shoot Highpower. Made me a lot better marksman/hunter.

I competed in High Power matches for several years. I got pretty good at it ,but not in expert class. It made me a better shooter, but I still used every available means to get a steady rest when shooting animals.

I was mediocre at best but like you, it sure improved my hunting.

Larry Root (up the pole) and garanimals, two guys who don't kill squat blathering about how if you don't do it their way, you aren't real men..

And Garanimals with this true gem:




"Snipers - start at Six-hundred yards.

Most hunting is done at less than Three.


Nothing wrong w/ using natural support if it's handy.

But bringing crutches, to replace shooting skills, is another thing"


This in spite of the fact he could not provide a single citation to back anything he claimed and in fact was shown real world examples of the fact he had no idea what he was talking about.

Yeah, this guy was just a poser who didn't know chit about shooting either.

Sir...

enjoy

Basic Field Position Rifle Marksmanship - Paul Harrell:


Get off the bench, learn to shoot, and leave your bipod at home.




GR

Have shot most of my big game from sitting, with and without sticks, bipods etc. Know how to use a sling, have used one often, even taught folks how to use the sling as a shooting aid.

A few critters from prone too, but as others have said, it's often too low to clear grass, brush, fallen trees, etc... Using a good rest from prone can really work great.

Standing? You bet! Even then I've sometimes been able to use a rest. I'll use what I can to steady the shot and make the best shot I can.


About 325 yards, 30-06 Rem 700, 6x Leupold, handloaded 165 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip @ 2900+ fps. No rest available, so I sat, with the "hasty sling" around my left arm, and popped him. One and done. Felt pretty good about that shot.



I've done one heck of a lot of rifle shooting between the Marines, hunting, competition, law enforcement and just plain enjoying shooting. Wore out a few 308 barrels and that takes a bit of shooting to accomplish.

If I can use a rest to make the shot, I will.

Regards, Guy

Well said Guy…. Use what you can to make it happen.

Sheesh, what a bunch of crap from the OP.

I do whatever I need to fill the freezer. Have probably shot critters using every way possible.

Have not shot competition since middle school, 22 rimfire back in the 80's. But I do shoot a bunch from various positions and distances.

Off hand
kneeling
sitting
prone
bipod
shooting sticks
trees/branches
rocks
packs
truck hood, window, mirrors
Even my shooting bench at the ranch.

My favorite position is the one that allows me to get the job done.